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  1. 10 points
  2. 9 points
    Beerfish

    Ryan Fitzpatrick: MERGED

    I'm in favour of having Fitzpatrick as the Jets starter next year as part of the on going plan. If he wants too much money, then see ya later.
  3. 8 points
    UnitedWhofans

    Ryan Fitzpatrick: MERGED

    If a team is willing to overpay him, goodbye and give us a comp pick. Cimini said this and I agree with him (miraculously) Last year was about getting rid of the circus and restoring credibility to the Jets organization. With a pretty good season, despite no playoffs, mission accomplished. Now its about bringing in young talent for the future
  4. 7 points
    JiF

    Ryan Fitzpatrick: MERGED

    You know you're a Jets fan when the potential of not signing Ryan Fitzpatrick feels like the end of the world.
  5. 7 points
    RutgersJetFan

    Ryan Fitzpatrick: MERGED

    I can't do another year of Geno. I just can't. I legit think I don't have it in me to go out of my way once a week to make time for watching that awfulness again. ******* Jets man. sh*t.
  6. 6 points
    And if Fitz didn't throw that pick...If Ivory was healthy...If Revis didn't get burned...If Cro didn't play 10 yards off the line etc etc
  7. 6 points
    Bob

    Ryan Fitzpatrick: MERGED

    The Jets just can't help stepping on their dicks. Anybody who thinks Geno F'ing Smith is an NFL quarterback needs to put down the crackpipe and step away.
  8. 6 points
    JiF

    Ryan Fitzpatrick: MERGED

    It would be the coolest thing ever to happen to the Jets if Geno turned out to be the real deal. I personally dont think the team would have been much worse with him last season, so I dont think it's out of the question for him to run an effective offense. Who knows, maybe that year behind Fitz was exactly what he needed.
  9. 5 points
    dbatesman

    Ryan Fitzpatrick: MERGED

    What probably happened is that Fitzpatrick suddenly became a 30+ TD a year player in his age-33 season and will absolutely definitely for sure stay that way until he retires, so we'd better give him whatever he wants
  10. 5 points
    Warfish

    Ryan Fitzpatrick, The Journeyman

    Lets compare. Geno Smith won 11 games in 2013, 2014 & 2015 combined, compared to Fitz's 10 in 2015. Geno Smith's QB ratings were 66 and 77 in 2013 and 2014, 20 and 10 points worse than Fitz respectively. That's 37th and 29th in the league in those years. Geno Smith completed 55.8% and 59.7% in 2013 and 2014. That's 35th and 27th in the legaue in those years. Geno Smiths YPA was 6.9 in both years. The same as Fitz. Geno Smith threw 12 TD's and 13 TD's in 2013 and 2014. 27 total in 2013, 2014 & 2015 combined. 4 less than Fitz in 2015. And 28th and 25th in the league in those years. Geno Smith's INT% was 4.7% and 3.5%. That's 2nd worst and 5th worst in the league in those years. Fitz was 2.7%, good for 8th worst. Geno Smith threw 21 and 13 INT's in 2013 & 2014. Thats 4th worst and 12th worst. Geno Smith fumbled 8 times and 8 times in 2013 and 2014. That's 11th worst and 14th worst in those years. Spin this horrific record as you like, "he just needs a fair chance" seems to be the Sanchez-esque line most prefer. But there is no doubt, Geno Smith was one of, if not thee, worst QB's in the NFL in 2013 and 2014, and he stats, and our win/loss record, reflected that. If this is really what people want to go back to.......I simply cannot understand why. Going 4-10 in 2014 was as horrible and unpleasant a year as we've had in a while, and Smith was a primary culprit. Going 10-6 with Fitz, disappointing as the end was, was a refreshing break from the past few years of pathetic futility. If we need a year (or two, max) to transition to Petty or another young QB, who is better suited to steer the ship till Petty is ready? A well-liked, inspirational, average (Stats wise) Veteran QB with a 2-1 TD to INT ratio, or a guy who all but led the league in total turnovers both years he played, inspires no one, is immature enough to lose his job (and his jaw) to a few hundred bucks because he lied, and a guy who loses games in droves? If we're going to suck, if we're going to make the unusual choice of dumping a 10-win, 31 TD QB....it better damn well not be for Geno F'ing Smith. Don't resign Fitz, if we think that's best, but if we start Geno, that's simply unforgivable levels of self-delusion and self-hatred by the Jets F.O. P.S. Brandon Marshall had his best season ever, production wise, with Fitz. 2nd in Yards (1502, his best was 1508) and 1st in TD's. Eric Decker had his 2nd best season ever, production wise, with Fitz. 3rd in Yards (1027, best was 1266 with manning) and 2nd in TD's (12, best was 13, with Manning). His best year he played most of 2 games more than he did this year. Fitz made his WR's better. Geno Smith never met a WR he couldn't make looks worse.
  11. 5 points
    Maxman

    Alternatives if Fitzpatrick walks

    So here is the deal. If I see you attack any poster here again for their opinions you will be banned for life. Absolutely no need for garbage posts like this. I am really confused as to why you would feel something like this is acceptable.
  12. 4 points
    Except for the fact that Cruz hasn't played in two seasons and Brick is our starting tackle. If Cruz walks nothing changes for the Giants. Brick walks we're missing 20% of our OL and the best T on the roster
  13. 4 points
    Maxman

    Ryan Fitzpatrick: MERGED

    You just can't overpay for Fitz. Look at the last game of the year. They needed him to step up and win that, he didn't. Fitz had a great year. But no way can you give him over 15mm per year. No way.
  14. 4 points
  15. 4 points
    UnitedWhofans

    Ryan Fitzpatrick: MERGED

    I didn't say he was. In fact I doubt he is. But if Fitzpatrick wants big money, forget it. Jets need to do it the slow way instead of the quick fix. Fans dont want to hear that, but that's the truth
  16. 4 points
    Il Mostro

    Ryan Fitzpatrick: MERGED

    He has value, but not enough to overpay. The guy was serviceable by not effing things up too much. It is not like he put the team on his back and carried them to the promised land. Can't grade and pay him on a curve based on the wasteland of past Jets' QB's. A little reality check is in order.
  17. 4 points
    jgb

    Ryan Fitzpatrick: MERGED

    I can say, with 100% confidence, that Geno Smith will not have a good year. Not next year, not ever, not in the CFL, not in flag football, not in Madden Franchise Mode. Tank talk in March. #GoJetsFans
  18. 4 points
    Paradis

    Ryan Fitzpatrick: MERGED

    Fck this... i was already a Fitz skeptic, but no way. NO way... are we going to be become the next BUF to overpay this guy because he does "OK" in Gailey's system... We had the easiest schedule in the multiverse last year and still couldn't get into the playoffs, now we're looking to pay him 12+ mill to play a schedule thats a billion times harder.
  19. 4 points
    pointman

    RGIII released some time today

    Bring him in. Any of these once very good players who are on the supposed downside, I'd take a gamble on one of them over re-signing Fitz at 2/36 type money.
  20. 4 points
    Warfish

    Ryan Fitzpatrick: MERGED

    Have to agree. 3 Years, 12 per, 36 mil total. Yes, I make that deal. 1 year starter, one year transition/insurance, 1 year backup/mentor for Petty (or cutable). 2 for 36, with both years likely guaranteed? Too much, even for me. God in Heaven, am I going to have to watch another Geno Smith year? I have no words.....
  21. 4 points
    drsamuel84

    Ryan Fitzpatrick: MERGED

    Yep, he had a nice year and I loved the leadership he brought but we can't overvalue the guy and handcuff ourselves for the next two years. If another team wants to overpay then we look to roll with Geno/Petty and an RG3/Kaepernick type and see if we can maybe catch lightning in a bottle. I don't want to undervalue the QB position but I also don't want to overpay a journeyman QB coming off a career year when there's a better chance of him regressing. I've said this before and I'll say it again, it was a nice year coming off a 4-12 season but we didn't win anything, we didn't even make the playoffs so let's stop trying to act like we'll regress back to 4-12 without Fitz. If we do then we got bigger problems than not resigning a 33 year old QB.
  22. 4 points
  23. 4 points
  24. 3 points
    you're either straight up trolling or have been dropped on your head once or twice.
  25. 3 points
    Can somebody please kill me?
  26. 3 points
    Nolder

    Empire State Mafia Sign-Ups

    Your mom
  27. 3 points
    JetBlue

    Ryan Fitzpatrick: MERGED

    Great point. The guy is 33 going on 34 and will never be in this situation again. He wants to parlay last season into his last true payday and truthfully who here can blame him? I just don't what the Jets to be the suckers who overpay him.
  28. 3 points
  29. 3 points
    prime21

    RGIII released some time today

    Bring in RGII for a workout and lets see what happens. Who knows what happening with Fitz and we need to be ready in case he signs elsewhere. Maybe it's just Geno and Petty so we should workout as many QB's as we can.
  30. 3 points
    jmat321

    Ryan Fitzpatrick: MERGED

    From what I heard on the radio this AM (grain of salt), Jets may just let him walk, spend the money elsewhere, bring in another low cost vet via FA/trade to compete with Geno/Petty.
  31. 3 points
    Mike135

    Ryan Fitzpatrick: MERGED

    Can't believe I'm going back into last off-season's arguments, but seems like only option... 2 years ago: absolute $hit team. Defense was weak and the WRs were a joke. Decker was hurt most of the year. Yet the team goes 8-8. Last year: About as easy a schedule as possible. A much improved defense. Smarter coaching and offensive scheme. Possibly the best 1/2 combo at WR in the league in Marshall/Decker. And we get 10 wins with Fitz. How does someone look at that and say we NEED Fitz or that he's even better than Geno? I was happy with Fitz last year, but paying him over 8mil a year is just a waste. Draft another prospect, continue to develop Petty and roll with Geno. Use the savings on Oline, RB, LB.
  32. 3 points
    Powpow

    Ryan Fitzpatrick: MERGED

    The Bradford contract really screwed this whole QB free agency scenario. 18M per for 2 years for Bradford is a joke. The Broncos are now being held hostage with Osweiler who was offered 3years for 45M. That's 15M a year fro a QB who has started 8 games. WOW. Word on the street is the Broncos are looking at Fitzy. Is this a smoke screen by Elway? I think not. They just won a Super Bowl with Manning, who clearly is over the hill, and a back up QB who just saw the field for the first time in his career his past year. Fitz, with that defense, would be more than serviceable. Looks like its going to be a bidding war and it wouldn't behoove Mac to pay Fitz Bradford type money. Fitz had a great year but this team is not close to contending for a Super Bowl to pay him that kind of loot.
  33. 3 points
    I think, at the very least, that if Fitz comes back, (and he probably will), he enters Training Camp as the established No.1 starter and it is up to Geno to take the job away. If Geno does succeed in winning the job on merit, that might win back some respect from the clubhouse for the incident with Enampkali. So he might be given a second chance to win the job, we don't know, but that will be all he will get.
  34. 3 points
    JiF

    Ryan Fitzpatrick: MERGED

    This is where I was at last year, ride or die with Geno. Figure out if he could turn it around with a new system and better weapons. Worst case scenario, tank and get the high pick. Best case scenario the change of scenery works. Oh well. Jets baby!!!
  35. 3 points
    peebag

    Ryan Fitzpatrick: MERGED

    Just an fyi, We didn't make the playoffs with the Fitznator. I'm thinking we could get the same results w/ Geno/Bryce/QBnext
  36. 3 points
    Charlie Brown

    Ryan Fitzpatrick: MERGED

    I agree with the general sentiment in this thread. Fitz was very good for us last year but we didn't even make the playoffs. The Jets are nuts if they go over 12 million for Fitz. 18 million is absolute INSANITY!!!!!! You pay that kind of dough for a player who can CARRY a team not manage the game big difference. Double what Brady is making!!! Good Luck with that Bro... Just the thought is madness..... Good Grief....
  37. 3 points
    How sick would it be if he is and tears it up? He won't but be pretty sweet if he did.
  38. 3 points
    pointman

    Ryan Fitzpatrick: MERGED

    2/36. LOL. Nope. See ya.
  39. 3 points
    Nolder

    Empire State Mafia Sign-Ups

    I keep saying I'm going to take breaks but I never manage to actually take them. This is like the third break I haven't taken. Yeah fine count me in.
  40. 3 points
    God bless The United T*ts of Bombdirt
  41. 3 points
    Maxman

    Alternatives if Fitzpatrick walks

    Same goes for you. You have been banned under like 100 names before. We can easily make it 101.
  42. 3 points
    AFJF

    Odds of a Fitz return

    Yep...all these experts and a few internet tough guys yelling and screaming that Fitz isn't an NFL QB, yet he's already been named the starter without being under contract by the HC who, I would venture to guess, has a little more knowledge. That being said, if rumors of the cold market for Mo are true, they may have some difficutly getting Fitz done. Even if they add some players through the draft and bring guys up from the PS, they've got 19 holes to fill as of now. Gonna be tough to pull off with Mo taking up $15 mil. I thought moving Mo would be fairly easy...we'll know soon enough.
  43. 3 points
    sourceworx

    Schefter: Osweiler to Den not a lock

    The fact that Denver isn't going out of their way to keep this guy is pretty telling. You don't let a good young QB talk to other teams if you truly believe in him.
  44. 3 points
    pointman

    Osweiler offered 3yrs/$45mill

    I don't want to read pages and pages of people pretending to know everything. I appreciate the new thread. Thanks OP.
  45. 2 points
    Mike135

    Is Bowles into giving 2nd chances?

    Maybe Geno should text Bowles the highlight vid @joewilly12 just posted. I've watched it three times already.
  46. 2 points
    dbatesman

    Geno Smith highlights

    It's good knowin' he's out there. joewilly12. Takin' 'er easy for all us sinners.
  47. 2 points
    cant wait

    Ryan Fitzpatrick: MERGED

    maybe it's time you give up on the jets and follow fitz to whatever loser team he signs with
  48. 2 points
    #Tannenbaum
  49. 2 points
    joewilly12

    Ryan Fitzpatrick: MERGED

    We really dont know what we have in Geno Smith he had the worst OC in the league and the worst WRs in the league along with the worst head coach.
  50. 2 points
    hawk

    RGIII released some time today

    Chip Kelly right now.
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