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  1. 12 points
    A++++ The Jets jettison a malcontent one puff away from a season long suspension. A guy that will demand to be the highest paid DE next year. A guy that has repeatedly bucked the establishment for his own benefit and put himself before the team. They did this and received a 2nd round pick and a starting quality WR. Absolutely an A+++++ Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app
  2. 9 points
    Spoot-Face

    QBs released

    Sure, but I think he's quite majestic when he runs. Here's a clip of him running gassers.
  3. 8 points
    Agreed, its Rexs fault Maccagnan has had three offseasons and ended up with the worst roster in football
  4. 7 points
    Titan24

    Darnold, Allen, Rosen

    For those interested: 1. Sam Darnold: Western Michigan @ USC Sat. 9/2 5pm Pac12 Network 2. Josh Rosen: Texas A&M @ UCLA. Sunday 9/3 7:30 FOX 3. Josh Allen: Wyoming @ Iowa. Sat. 9/2 Noon Big Ten Network
  5. 7 points
    Pac

    Grade the Trade: Richardson to Seattle

    For someone who fancies himself a keen observer your lack of awareness about this situation is startling. Sheldon is a loud-mouthed malcontent who has repeatedly said his main goal is the monster pay day. He's either incapable or unwilling of following instruction as evidenced by his numerous swipes at Marshall this year despite Bowles implicitly telling him to refrain from it. He's a man baby, me first, money trumps all guy who does nothing for the culture that management is trying to cultivate. There was no way in hell the Jets were going to pay him anywhere near what he wanted (that money is for Leo) so it behooved them to get as much as they could rather than let him walk for nothing. Despite the fact that everyone in the NFL knew the above, Macc was able to get a competent veteran receiver and a 2nd round pick which might be used as ammunition to move up in the first round if necessary. That haul should be COMMENDED. p.s. trading Abe is what allowed us to get a potential HOF center named Nick Mangold. You know - your favorite Jet ever.
  6. 7 points
    I gave both of the teams an A. The Jets received an established WR and a high draft pick when most "experts" didn't think they could get more than a third or fourth. Seattle traded from a strength, WR, and got a top notch defensive lineman for what they hope to be a title run. This is a win win in my opinion. It is important that the second round pick is used properly of course.
  7. 7 points
    Jet_Engine1

    QBs released

  8. 7 points
    Jets A Sheldon proved to be a cancer. To get a 2nd round pick for him is amazing. You don't usually get a high pick like that unless it's a Qb. I was expecting a 4 or 5, similar to what we gave up for B. Marshall Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app
  9. 7 points
    Both Bs. The Wilk signing was C-. Should've let him go and signed Sheldon. But since Wilk was signed for 17mil per, smh, Sheldon had to go. And this was a decent trade.
  10. 7 points
    56mehl56

    Jets Reportedly Begin Making Cuts

    Arguing with joewilly12 is like haven't an argument with a cat - it will just hiss at you and eventually piss on the floor.
  11. 7 points
    slats

    Ross Martin Gone Catanzaro wins PK job

    Jets will only be kicking off once a game, anyway. Not a big deal.
  12. 6 points
    AFJF

    another view of trade

    I've seen roughly three people upset by this trade and their real reasons are as follows 1) Been ripping Mac all off-season and said he'd get nothing for Sheldon so having to deflect/create new narrative. 2) Was probably being fed stories from the locker room by Sheldon for his stories.
  13. 6 points
    Sperm Edwards

    Sheldon Traded

    Based on where we're at today, it's a very good trade. There's more to it, in that time didn't just begin with the Jets in this situation, so it's part of some past failures that we're where we are and that can't be ignored. However, given where we are, IMO this was a no-brainer and luckily Seattle was willing to pay Sheldon $8m (on top of the 2nd rounder next year) when nobody else in the league would. This team had too many DTs for the past 2 years; making it 3 years wouldn't help anything no matter how talented Sheldon is We aren't competing in 2017, so paying Sheldon $8m effectively robs it from 2018 not 2017 Mo and Leo are locked in, no matter what anyone says about being able to get out of Mo's contract next year. They were never going to dump Mo and lock up Sheldon. When it's time to bump Leo's money, then dump Mo as well. A successful team doesn't sink about $40m/year into a pair of slow DLmen who can't generally get to the QB outside of coverage sacks. Sheldon is a 5th wheel here. He has a good place in Seattle because he belongs inside as a gap-shooter next to another DT/NT, with both of these DTs in between a pair of edge-rushing DEs. Our DL of Mo-Sheldon-McLendon-Leo would likely be the slowest DL in the NFL, no matter how good they are at run-stopping or how talented the 3 younger ones are. It's way past due to dump one of Mo or Sheldon once Leo was drafted, but better late than never (which is where we were headed). The team's singular goal in the next 8 months is securing a high enough pick to draft the best young QB we can get our hands on (while leaving as much cap room as possible to surround said QB with the best available veterans). Once Seattle made this offer I don't see how we could turn it down.
  14. 6 points
    I gave the Jets an A because it won't be Mike Macagnan making the 2nd round selection next season!
  15. 5 points
    Sperm Edwards

    Sheldon Traded

    The complaint - one which is 100% valid - is the past misuse of our high picks that put us into this position. A team can't keep drafting the same position with its #1 pick; even though 3 of the 4 DE/DTs we drafted panned out, who cares? We needed a QB and an edge rusher far more than adding to our DT collection. Other than obvious running downs, Sheldon belongs inside between two pass rushers or outside as an end on a 3-man line. The team is already locked into Mo and Leo in an obvous tank season. Given that, any fans who say right now they'd trade away a 2nd round pick, plus some $6m of next year's cap, to add a talented and young, but totally un-needed, 2-strike douchebag DT, on a 1-year deal, are liars.
  16. 5 points
    More like we let them rent a Ferrari with nothing wrong with it for one year except that at any moment it could take a puff of weed or skip a game in search of "hoes" has to be diciplined for showing up late and at the end of the year is going to demand that you pay it 25 million dollars per year in order to keep driving it and they gave us a bag of trash with some usable crap left inside plus a second round draft pick? Sent from my LGUS991 using JetNation.com mobile app
  17. 5 points
    This. Man, I cannot believe there are so many Sheldon fans now. Does everyone remember "Eff dis game where da hoes at"? Or Driving at 400 mph with weed and a kid in his car? Total cancer & underachiever who thinks he is better than he is and I for one am glad he is gone. Would have been a miserable contract negotiation had they kept him. The fact that we managed to get a WR and a #2 is gravy.
  18. 5 points
    Tinstar

    Sheldon Traded

    The only people tanking are the fans .
  19. 4 points
    KRL

    Another QB Scenario

    I know most of the "tank" fanbase is focusing on the QB's in the draft but there is another scenario people should keep in mind. The front office could be focusing on going after Garrapolo in free agency. With him they would be getting a 25 year old who has been trained by Belichick, McDaniel & Brady for 4 years and doesn't have to "transition" to the pros. Once he's signed then the team could auction off their high pick and use those picks (11 or 12??) to surround Garrapolo with talent. Just speculating
  20. 4 points
    JetsFanatic

    Jets cut Deon Simon

    If given the opportunity, I actually think Mac will put together a good team he is a very knowledgable and hard working GM. I also give him credit for having the balls to tear down a team and attempt to build it the right way. Unfortunately it takes a little patience and time. As you can see from some of these posts, that's two things some fans don't have.
  21. 4 points
    So what's the actual timeline to this? 2018? 19? 20? 21? 22? 34?
  22. 4 points
    I find it hard to believe the Jets would allow Mac to gut the roster then fire him. The smart move is to see this through.
  23. 4 points
    Lith

    Sheldon Traded

    You can play that game with Macc too. In 2015, he inherited $50MM+ in cap space and spent it to acquire 15 free agents. All we have left is Carpenter and Skrine. A solid guard and a lousy nickel corner. 15 FA signings in March and April of 2015: Antonio CromartieBuster SkrineCorey HilliardDarrelle RevisErin HendersonJamari LattimoreJames BrewerJames CarpenterJoe MaysKellen DavisKevin VickersonMarcus GilchristRonald TalleySteven Bowen Stevan Ridley He also acquired 4 players in trades (Fitz, Marashall, Posey and Stacy) who are all gone two years later.
  24. 4 points
    Fits our tank strategy perfectly Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app
  25. 4 points
    I think it was an apology from Seattle for Percy Harvin. Jets A Hawks C
  26. 4 points
    Sperm Edwards

    Sheldon Traded

    You would only know this if you were a Jets fan on Twitter.
  27. 4 points
    In 2011 we were coming off of another AFC championship appearance with a young QB that we traded up for and, even if we did the unthinkable, the QB class was weak as sh*t. 2013 we drafted Milliner and Richardson and walked out with the "highest" rated QB of that class in the 2nd round. 2015 we tried to get Winston and Mariota using Mo Wilkerson because he was more tradeable with Sheldon suspended, and neither team took the bait. They ended up going 1 & 2. If you're gonna make the argument that "we should have drafted a QB instead of Wilk, Sheldon, or Leo" at least make some sense. You mean we'd be better off with a good QB instead of a good D-Lineman? No duh. It's not that black and white. Grading this trade a D for this is absolutely ridiculous. We got a 2nd round pick for a pot smoking idiot who is one infraction away from a year long suspension, total locker room cancer, motivated by nothing but money, who would have walked for next to nothing in a year. Whining about who we're gonna pick with the 2nd as a way to discredit the fact that we got one is some sad, Joe Beningo-level, self loathing, & whining. You're better than that
  28. 4 points
    Tinstar

    Sheldon Traded

    Sheldon Richardson was a pain in the rump to the Jets, but I believe the team was willing to see what he could do this year before making a decision . Coach Bowles even went so far as telling the media that he thought the player was in a good place when he didn't bite on the Marshall cheese thrown out by the media at the start of camp . Then this kid goes on the radio and runs off at the mouth about a topic that players were told was a forgotten topic . I know how I felt when I read what Richardson said and I know what I saw on the coach's face when the media kept asking him about a topic he wanted nothing to do with . Right then, Richardson bought his ticket out of town and he couldn't leave fast enough .
  29. 4 points
    C Mart

    Sheldon Traded

    It's bullsh*t. Hes pissed. Pretty sure Sheldon was a source of his. Mo won't talk to MM so he's been trying to sh*t on Mo so Jets would dump Mo and keep Sheldon. So now he's whining like the little girl he is.
  30. 4 points
    fusionCA

    Sheldon Traded

    so it was the Jets fault Richardson behave like a stupid criminal and make it impossible to give him a contract? if the Jets would give Richardson a huge contract like he wants and then he would get suspended for failing a test fans like you will blame Mac for doing the wrong thing again. Richardson is an idiot and trading was the best thing this summer
  31. 4 points
    A for the Jets and B (I wanna say B+) for the Hawks. The Jets essentially pulled a rabbit out of their hat by trading a player with character issues who was as good as gone in a few months time. I still don't know how Mac managed to get a second rounder of all things from this. The only downside for Seattle is that they lost a fairly high piece of draft capital. Doesn't mean much though as they're obviously all in on this season and I think Shell is a better fit on that team then he would have been here.
  32. 4 points
    flgreen

    Sheldon Traded

    To question Macc's overall body of work, is absolutely legitimate. I'm not a Macc Rah-Rah guy. We're talking about THIS trade here. Macc's made a lot of ????? moves. This one was a +.
  33. 4 points
    flgreen

    Sheldon Traded

    IDK, your starting to fall in @T0mShane territory with this logic
  34. 4 points
    Bleedin Green

    Sheldon Traded

    This post could not possibly make less sense. I have no problem with the idea of Mac getting fired, but you're asserting the turning point is him trading away a guy who you yourself admit was a problem and on his way out the door? I get you decided you want to join the angry mob, because we're all Jets fans after all, so why not be angry, but I think you just came up with the worst reason yet.
  35. 3 points
    Patriot Killa

    Nice Petty article

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/thejetpress.com/2017/09/02/new-york-jets-pleasant-surprise-bryce-petty/amp/ The New York Jets avoided a major letdown and were fortunate that Bryce Petty’s injury suffered last week during a meaningless preseason game against the New York Giants wasn’t more serious than a knee sprain. This is because Petty will likely be a valuable contributor in 2017 given Christian Hackenberg’s poor preseason performance and current starting quarterback Josh McCown’s age You won’t find many who’ll admit it openly at One Jets Drive, but this summer’s most pleasant surprise has to be the performance of Petty. While other players have stood out and there have been some nice surprises—Austin Seferian-Jenkins, Demario Davis, and ArDarius Stewart just to name a few—in my estimation, Petty has been the real star of the Jets’ preseason. Yes, you’ll hear the same old suggestions that Petty’s success may be due to playing against second and third string defenses, that he is injury prone, or that he’s already reached his ceiling because in college he was a “system” quarterback, blah, blah, blah…. The simple fact remains that there is little trace of the deer-in-the-headlights look so common to young quarterbacks and used to be a permanent fixture with Petty. He has proven to be a more confident leader with a commanding presence in the pocket. During the Giants game, Petty often improvised behind the line of scrimmage, quickly scanning through multiple reads. His second touchdown pass to ArDarius Stewart was a perfect example of this newfound skill. I do not believe Hackenberg has this ability at the moment. Admittedly the evaluation of Petty must be tempered by the realization that there is a sense of desperation about the Jets quarterback position; meaning that there is a tendency to label the latest prospect as the next great one. We must also keep in mind that the more games Petty plays, there’s now additional film for defensive coordinators to dissect. In other words, every Petty tendency will be known by game day; they’ll even know his favorite meal if it might provide some insights into how his mind works. So I recognize that perspective is needed here. All that said, however, it is important to keep in mind that Petty is no slouch and is a proven talent. He had an incredible college career, throwing for over 8,000 yards, which included 62 touchdowns, with only 10 interceptions. His passing efficiency rating was 166. For comparison purposes, Deshaun Watson’s career passing efficiency rating was 158, Jameis Winston(158), Marcus Mariota (172), and the recently named Cleveland Browns starter and rookie quarterback DeShone Kizer (148). So Petty is up there with many of the top quarterbacks selected in the early rounds of recent NFL drafts. If 2017 proves to be an off year for the Jets then they should at least let Petty loose. The Jets defense is decent, and they have some dynamic playmakers on offense. Robby Anderson and Matt Forteimmediately come to mind. Watch the replay of the 80-yard scamper from Bilal Powell perfectly set up by Petty. Last year, Petty probably doesn’t recognize the open receiver or would rush the throw. More importantly, I don’t think Hackenberg can execute that kind of timing play right now. So these are all encouraging signs that the Jets quarterback situation may not be as bad as some have suggested. To be clear, I’m not suggesting Petty’s preseason performance means the Jets have found the “one.” But in the process of searching for the quarterback of the future, the Jets would be wise to consider Petty more strongly this year. In my view, Petty has clearly removed any doubts that he could be successful in the NFL. It’s time the Jets recognized it also and give him the opportunity to lead this team once and for all.
  36. 3 points
    jgb

    Let Macc actually rebuild than critique

    I demand a recount.
  37. 3 points
    JiF

    Jets cut Deon Simon

    Weird considering he was a part of the youth movement talent rebuild late round steal Big Mac attack possee.
  38. 3 points
    RutgersJetFan

    Keto Thread

    That's great to hear. Sounds like you did things more sensible than I. For me the concern was always making up the calories because I have to eat a lot, and one can only eat so many avocados, so I felt I had to go heavy on things throughout the week to make up for missing rice, oatmeal, honey...etc. I didn't do creamer like some savages, but I was going heavy on eggs and fattier meats. I think keto can be great for people, but it depends on the person. If you're an athlete it's a really tricky rope to manage. And people are also in this weird era of dieting where many are preaching "macros only," and that can be problematic when it comes to the little things. One more thing worth noting: As I get older one of the things I have noticed is that monitoring my carbs and fat (as long as I keep those clean) doesn't have nearly the same impact on my weight as does monitoring my sources of protein. If I need to cut weight quickly and keeping all things constant, switching to plant-based proteins really helps get rid of water, inflammation, and some fat in an insane hurry. There are always trade-offs of course, as I definitely feel stronger when I have red meat or some fatty fish in my belly.
  39. 3 points
    Its not even that, they're bashing the Jets on the premise that they had to trade Sheldon because of all the mismanagement of resources, lack of discipline, bad contracts etc.... that preceded this trade. Bottom line its what happens when you rotate HC's and Gm's every few years , the new regime comes in with their new schemes and drafts players for that scheme while the players from the old regime do not fit or are ostracized. Look at most successful teams their Coach/GM usually stick around together for longer periods of time , I understand this is a little bit of the chicken/egg argument , but teams willing to stick with a constant organizational philosophy even when things are bad usually rebound quicker than a team in the spin cycle ala the Jets /Browns etc.... The Jets pulled off a very good trade and finally appear to be doing things a lot more coherently than in the past this is something to be excited about.
  40. 3 points
    Lith

    Sheldon Traded

    To be fair, as you point out, he was able to get out of some of his bad contracts with limited impact and others signings were not expected to be long term. And had we won that damn game in Buffalo he probably would be looked at a lot differently, but we didn't. I am not a fan of Macc, but getting back to the topic of this thread -- I think he got a great deal for Sheldon. Hopefully we will be able to get our QB next season with a Top 3 pick, and then with two 2s, we would have the flexibility to move back into the first round and get the left tackle who is going to protect that QB for the next decade. If we actually decide to spend some valuable draft resources on the OL for a change. Good trade.
  41. 3 points
    Dunnie

    Sheldon Seahawks jersey

    Perhaps you should consider a plane ticket to Seattle as well. That or stick your 5 year old nephew in the backseat and drive 150MPH across country. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app
  42. 3 points
    T0mShane

    Sheldon Traded

    Yes. Because Mac has made a lot of moves that equate to getting Dak from Jerry. Like, say, scouting Dak but drafting Christian Hackenberg instead, and two rounds earlier.
  43. 3 points
    Mogglez

    Grade the Trade: Richardson to Seattle

    That's not even remotely close to being the ultimate test for grading this trade. The trade was for the 2nd rounder. Not Kearse.
  44. 3 points
    fusionCA

    Sheldon Traded

    maybe we trade Mehta to the pacific northwest , he can be a fisherman
  45. 3 points
    Maxman

    QBs released

    The only thing your McGloin is good at is disappointment.
  46. 3 points
    C Mart

    Sheldon Traded

    Just because you have talent doesn't make you a leader. You can't make leaders. Richardson isn't a leader. Marshall thought he was a leader and how did that turn out. Players know who the leaders are.
  47. 3 points
    Mike135

    Darnold, Allen, Rosen

    We need this every week. Thanks.
  48. 3 points
    Fibonacci

    Darnold, Allen, Rosen

    Good thread. Can you add Rudolph to the title?
  49. 3 points
    Lupz27

    QBs released

    Petty > These QB's.
  50. 3 points
    Scoop24

    Sheldon Seahawks jersey

    As long as you scream "where the hoes at " whenever you put it on..
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