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  1. 11 points
    JiF

    History Repeating Itself?

    Everything about the New York Jets is history repeating itself and they never learn their lesson. Doesn't matter the HC or GM, stupidity runs rampant throughout the organization. Example of the Jets not learning from history: Under qualified Defensive Coordinators becoming 1st time Head Coaches. Under qualified "Front office/personnel guys" becoming 1st time GM's. Defense, defense, defense, defense in the 1st round. sh*tty veteran QB, after sh*tty veteran QB "bridging the gap" to no one. Drafting players who excelled a certain position/play in college and asking them to do something else in the pro's. Constantly ignoring the obvious measurements at the combine for pas rushers. Bringing in old washed up veterans and relying heavily on them...see the current; Matt Forte Playing sh*tty veterans for no reason. Doesn't matter the year, the coach, the GM - its the same damn thing, over and over and over and over and over again...
  2. 5 points
    RutgersJetFan

    If Hack plays vs Oakland

    Bad. No wait, good! No hold on, bad!
  3. 5 points
    lollercoaster
  4. 5 points
    Rookie Head Coach #419231
  5. 4 points
    Nynaeve

    Aliens II: Xenomorph Within

    Private Hudson: Movement. Signal's clean. Range, twenty meters. Ripley: They've found a way in, something we've missed. Corporal Hicks: We didn't miss anything. Private Hudson: Seventeen meters. Ripley: [checking the tracker] Something under the floor, not in the plans, I don't know. Private Hudson: Fifteen meters. Newt: Ripley. Corporal Hicks: Definitely inside the barricades. Newt: Let's go. Private Hudson: Tweleve meters. Ripley: That's right outside the door. Hicks, Vasquez get back. Private Hudson: Man, this is a big ****in' signal. Corporal Hicks: How are we doing, Vasquez? Talk to me. Private Vasquez: Almost there. [they weld the door shut and step back away from the door] Private Vasquez: They're right on us. Corporal Hicks: Remember: short, controlled bursts. Private Hudson: Nine meters. Seven. Six. Ripley: That can't be; that's inside the room. Private Hudson: It's reading right man, look! Corporal Hicks: Then you're not reading *it* right. Private Hudson: Five meters, man. Four. What the hell? Everything goes black. SSSSHHH... Now go to sleep and don't dream. Crusher is no longer a viable incubator. He was... SMC is no longer a viable incubator. He was... LZM can no longer hug in an extra loving sort of way. He was...
  6. 4 points
    JiF

    History Repeating Itself?

    I'm loyal to a flaw. But yeah, they're my childhood team. My entire family follows them blindly. I was going to Jets practices at Hofstra before I even know what Football was. I'm not going to up and start rooting for another team because the Jets are a disaster of an organization. I'm with them ride or die. Hopefully one day in my life they win a Super Bowl and the wait will make it all that much better. Isn't that why we're all still fans of this sh*tty ass team?
  7. 4 points
    I need more information .Was someone else playing his S position, or was he in the box in a 46 look and from some reason PFF says he is not a S when in the box? Don't we really need to know the personnel group and alignment to evaluate this? And, he was drafted because he could play in the box and deep. Witht he way the Bills were gashing the Jets, I'd expect him to be in the box.
  8. 4 points
    It amazes me the amount of hate some Jets fans have for Revis. He's the best player this franchise has had since Joe Namath, but people hate him. Why? Because he made sure to make as much money as he could playing a sport that has very negative long term impacts. And that his skills diminished as he aged? God, what a prick.
  9. 3 points
    NYs Stepchild

    Reasonable discussions

    We seem to have lost the ability to have any sort of reasonable discussion anymore. Not just here but on any topic. If you say we're playing scared then obviously we want to play all rookies and just run go routes all day. Well there is a middle ground and I'm sure that 's what most of us want to see. We can play Vets but that doesn't mean we have to ride them all game. We can play conservative but that doesn't mean we don't need to take some shots down field to loosen up the defense. We want a coach that sees the way the game is progressing and reacts accordingly. If what we're doing isn't working then it should be obvious that we need to try something else. That doesn't mean we throw out the game plan, but it does it mean we shouldn't keep running plays that they know are coming. You are allowed to surprise the other team. It's not cheating. Hey if it doesn't work then you try something else. I'm pretty sure everyone understands that. What they don't understand is continuing to do the same things that didn't work in the hopes that we'll magically break 4 tackles and get a first down. We got 3 passing first downs all day. 2 were on busted coverages, and one was on 3rd and short. You cannot maintain that especially when your plan is to gain 4 yards per pass. That means you need a 100 completion % to ever score a TD. No one is saying to we need to run an air raid. You need to take some shots downfield when they're stacking the box and the safeties are both coming forward on every play. Then once you're down by 2 scores late in the 3rd you need to conserve clock to maximize your possessions. You cannot expect this team to score twice in 3 tries while holding their opponent scoreless. The only explanation for Bowles to run out the clock is that he was satisfied with being competitive and never hoped to win. this is not what you want to teach young players. Anyone that has any constructive disagreements with this account is welcome to try and change my mind. I'm open to constructive criticism. Please to not blurt out that I'm wrong, or drunk, or that conservative play calling can still win in this league because this is not the 80s. We do not have the players to grind out any wins even if it were. No one really does anymore. You need clutch play from clutch players. Protecting these guys is going to get us nowhere. Let them show what they can do. If anything it would prove that Bowles just didn't have the horses to win. This way it just makes him seem incompetent. At least to those informed in the league. You know, the ones that might give him a job next year.
  10. 3 points
    joerb31

    Film Review: Week 1 Jets @ Bills

    41 plays being brought to you guys and A TON of them are Lee and Davis just being bad football players. If the Jets replaced them in this game with two competent LBs the Jets could have easily won this game or at the minimum it would have been much closer.
  11. 3 points
  12. 3 points
    Spoot-Face

    Aliens II: Xenomorph Within

    *their x2
  13. 3 points
    Lizard King

    Aliens II: Xenomorph Within

    Omg stfu pokenerd
  14. 3 points
    RutgersJetFan

    Reasonable discussions

    Agreed. Human beings definitely treated each other well and talked to each other civilly before the Internet ruined it all.
  15. 3 points
    nycdan

    Reasonable discussions

    Just saw an article about Hue Jackson in CLE. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/browns-hue-jackson-says-rookie-quarterback-deshone-kizer-gives-us-hope/ Here are some quotes I like: This is what I want from a HC. He is giving the young rookie a chance to play, a chance to make mistakes and learn, a chance to develop into a good starting QB, and most of all, a clear signal that he is confident in the kid. Compare that to how our coaching staff treats our 3rd year player. In a nutshell, that's why Bowles will never succeed IMO. CLE may lose some games badly, but they are having more fun and investing in a better future. We are just standing in the soup line waiting hours for weak broth. So yes, I would embrace the middle ground but I can't even see it from here.
  16. 3 points
    SMC

    Aliens II: Xenomorph Within

    This is Crusher
  17. 3 points
    jeremy2020

    If Hack plays vs Oakland

    If hack is the backup then everyone on the coaching staff and front office should be beaten severely
  18. 3 points
    varjet

    History Repeating Itself?

    It is clear that Macc has been outperformed by his peers in at least the last 2 drafts. His philosophy in selecting players also seems to be stuck from his prior job as a Scout. A Scout grades players in terms of their likelihood of NFL success. Macc apparently drafts in a vacuum, trying to go off of grades without weighing relative positional value. In a league where teams have built from the inside out, Macc seems to think he can build from the outside in. His Hack pick in particular is at best a gross overdraft, and at worst is dereliction. My guess is that he is a good scout, just like Idzik is a good contract executive. Maybe he learns from this and develops into a capable GM. But at the moment, with 100mm to spend and top draft picks to make, he needs at best a boss, and at worst replacement.
  19. 3 points
    JetFreak89

    History Repeating Itself?

    One of the biggest parts of being a Head Coach is making in-game decisions such as: Clock Management, punting vs. going for 4th Down; when to go for two points, etc.. These are situational choices with clear right and wrong decisions. A good HC will make the right decision more often than not. That has nothing to do with whether it actually succeeds or not on the field. Bowles has shown he consistently makes the wrong choice because he has no awareness of risk vs reward, foresight into how the decision will affect the latter stage of the game, and sometimes because he forgets how many points his own team is down. All of this has nothing to do with wins or losses or the talent level of the players on the team.
  20. 3 points
    If it's half as good as that 2nd round steal at QB that he outsmarted the rest of the league on, we're all in for a real treat.
  21. 3 points
    It's as though some find it incomprehensible to suggest that both of these two are just awful.
  22. 3 points
    Terry Bradway worked here for 14 years. Jeff Bauer for i think 12. To be fair, they both presumably were piping hot candidates for other nfl jobs, right? If the Jets have shown anything, you don't need to be good at your job for 5 years plus. Source: Jets.
  23. 3 points
    The fact that Jet fans can actually splinter into pro-McCag vs pro-Bowles factions may be the most pathetic part of all. How can anyone be pro either one versus the other when they're both horrific at their job descriptions?
  24. 3 points
    The Crusher

    Aliens II: Xenomorph Within

    I have one time lie detector. This is true.
  25. 3 points
  26. 3 points
    Integrity28

    Aliens II: Xenomorph Within

    Derp, he's already had more impact on the game than you.
  27. 3 points
    Pac

    Aliens II: Xenomorph Within

    How long did you have to hold up AJ when you shot the cover of you album? I'm sure you enjoyed every hour.
  28. 3 points
    Pac

    Aliens II: Xenomorph Within

    The cover of your guys first album titled: Open The Closet Door
  29. 3 points
  30. 3 points
    The first bolded statement makes you lose all credibility. ASJ has completely turned his life around and is doing everything it takes to become better player and man. And no, he's not a bridge guy. He's a guy we took a chance on that we'll likely sign long-term if he produces this year. You should find another team to root for. We have enough haters riding the d already.
  31. 3 points
    I'd argue that a true rebuild starts with one unit and one unit only...offensive line. Without it you can't develop a qb, your WR's can't finish a route and you have no running game to fall back on. Even if the Jets should get their star QB next year, he'll be beaten to death before he can be any good. Dak Prescott started with an excellent Oline, the 'Boys did it right. Andrew Luck, who has twice the talent, is a wasted cap hit, because there is no supporting cast on that team, and no protection. Colts did it wrong. And then you have the Jets starting the likes of Brent Qvale, Wesley Johnson and Kelvin Beachum (at LT no less). This team is years away from building a competitive roster.
  32. 3 points
    I think he gets in on the first ballot. He had probably the single best season a corner has ever had, at a time when the rules were being rewritten to favor QBs and WRs to an absurd degree. HOF voters are too dumb to know that, much less care, but they know he's a big name who ended up with a ring, so I think he's pretty safe. That said, the guy pretty clearly loafed through a lot of his time here. Good on him for stealing Woody's money, but calling him the best player in franchise history says a lot more about the franchise than it does about Revis.
  33. 3 points
    Jets fans: "Woody Johnson sucks!" Also Jets fans: "I hate the one great player this franchise once drafted because he held Woody Johnson up for more money!" Also, also Jets fans: "We should think about giving Kirk Cousins $200 mil!"
  34. 2 points
    No idea who this columnist is but he seems to capture a lot of the sentient here with this red meat: http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2017/09/12/new-york-jets-todd-bowles-bilal-powell-darron-lee/ No one should have been surprised at the outcome of the Jets’ seasonopener in Buffalo on Sunday. The offense looked as pathetic as advertised in the 21-12 loss and I warned you that the defense was overrated. This is one of the worst teams in the franchise’s not-so-glorious history. Head coach Todd Bowles got pummeled afterwards from those who believed that a couple of his game management decisions cost the Jets a shot at a rare victory. Folks, even if Bowles was more aggressive in the last 30 seconds of the first half or went for it on fourth down from near midfield with four minutes remaining and down two scores, the Jets weren’t winning that game. Bowles’ personnel choices and assignments on Sunday, however, should be up for debate, and they have longer-reaching implications than just one defeat among what will surely be a double-digit total by season’s end. Jets head coach Todd Bowles looks on during the second half against the Buffalo Bills on Sept. 10, 2017 at New Era Field in Orchard Park, New York. (Photo by Tom Szczerbowski/Getty Images) How can Bowles develop or get the best out of his players if he doesn’t even know who his best players are and what they can do? I’ll give you three examples: Bilal Powell incognito I’m sure Bowles watches a ton of game film, but I can’t fathom how he can conclude that Matt Forte, in his current 31-year-old condition, is anywhere near Powell’s level. Yet Powell, who gained the third-most rushing yards in the league over the final four weeks of last season after Forte broke down, did not get a single touch in the first quarter, a stanza in which the Jets accumulated a grand total of 16 yards in six plays. It was only after Forte’s second dropped pass of the first half that Bowles went to Powell. He was given two carries in the last four minutes of the second quarter. When confronted during his postgame press conference about the curious allocation of workload, Bowles noted that Powell had more carries than Forte on the day. Yep, he won 7-6. It shouldn’t have been that close. Jets running back Bilal Powell takes off during the second quarter against the Buffalo Bills at MetLife Stadium on Jan. 1, 2017 (Photo by Ed Mulholland/Getty Images) I will grant you that Powell had a very unremarkable performance (22 rush yards, 17 yards on pass receptions) in his limited reps. but that’s not the point. This is a team starved for playmakers and Powell has shown a level of dynamism that Forte just doesn’t have any more. The Jets are wasting away Powell’s prime. To those who claim he’s injury-prone at 5-foot-10 and 204 pounds, I would counter that he’s played in at least 14 games every season but one (he played 11 games in 2015) since 2012. Forte is regarded as the consummate pro, but his body language after his drops suggested that his mind might be on greener pastures than Gang Green’s. There’s been speculation that the Jets will trade him by the midseason deadline, but no matter the intention, the running back roles should be reversed now. Powell should be the feature back, with Forte in relief and on third downs. The miscasting of Darron Lee The surest route to busthood is to be assigned tasks out of your comfortzone. Take Lee, the Jets’ first-round draft choice in 2015. All of the scouting reports at the time indicated that the linebacker “excels in space” and is not quite as stout when taking on bigger blockers. So where does Bowles have Lee? On the inside in a 3-4 alignment, of course. Was anyone else wondering, as Buffalo’s tandem of LeSean McCoy and Mike Tolbert ran roughshod to the tune of 152 yards on 34 attempts, where Lee was on these plays? I know the box score stated that Lee registered 10 tackles and a sack, but I lost track of the number of times the Bills’ backs blew through the first two levels of the Jets’ defense while Lee was entangled with an offensive lineman. I knew the Jets’ run defense was going to suffer without David Harris in the middle for the first time in 11 years, but this was embarrassing. And Lee’s pass coverage was even worse. As tweeted by Brian Costello of the New York Post, Lee was the lowest-graded Jets defender by ProFootballFocus.com, surrendering a 134.7 passer rating on his coverage responsibilities. It’s a long season, so there’s still hope that Lee will grow on the job. With this regime, however, I have doubts. Who’s No. 2? Bowles had the perfect opportunity to clear up his quarterback depth chart in his postgame remarks. He could have said that Bryce Petty was still recovering from a knee injury he suffered in the third preseason game and didn’t want to risk having to play him in an emergency. Jets quarterback Josh McCown watches the action during the second half against the Buffalo Bills on Sept. 10, 2017 at New Era Field in Orchard Park, New York. (Photo by Tom Szczerbowski/Getty Images) No one would have challenged his decision to make Christian Hackenberg the backup in Buffalo. That would have made too much sense. Instead, Bowles left open the possibility that the pecking order was created on merit. Bowles only said that Petty had a full week of practice, intimating that he could have played if needed. Bowles felt Hackenberg was the better option. Josh McCown went the whole way behind center, so you might think this criticism is a stretch. However, it represents exactly the kind of thinking that has made Bowles a prime target for ridicule. While none of the “Terrible Trio” will save this franchise, Hackenberg has to be considered the least likely to succeed at this point. He has provided no basis for hope, other than his pedigree of having been drafted in the second round in 2015. In virtually every preseason appearance since, he has looked lost in the pocket and hasn’t been able to deliver an accurate ball with the requisite efficiency anywhere on the field. Are we all missing something? Hackenberg will get his opportunity at some point in this lost season, as he should. But don’t tell me he deserves to get one before Petty.
  35. 2 points
    Lots of time and effort to do this. Appreciated...
  36. 2 points
    gEYno

    If Hack plays vs Oakland

    looks like 25 SOJFs versus 5 of us REAL FANS
  37. 2 points
    j4jets

    History Repeating Itself?

    Cleveland has been tanking since it returned. You don't copy those bums.
  38. 2 points
    johnnysd

    History Repeating Itself?

    100% accurate. Lol, our offensive game plan this week was have the washed up vet laser focus on the two veteran receiving targets on every play, and run the washed up running back over the better guys. Bowles......
  39. 2 points
    No. They were only even in the game enough to argue about the punt on 4th an 8 BECAUSE they didn't take chances. You play to keep the game close enough so that you can turn the tide in your favor with a few big plays. Problem is, no one on the Jets O made any big plays. Burris had a chance to change the dynamics of the game if he converted his pick for 6, but he was unfortunately tackled in a very Jet-like manner.
  40. 2 points
    The Crusher

    Aliens II: Xenomorph Within

    If he was scum SMC would have coached him up good in the scum thread. SMC coaches people up in the dead thread even.
  41. 2 points
  42. 2 points
    Ken Shroy

    14 point dogs sunday

    14 points isn't enough. We will lose by 21 minimum.
  43. 2 points
    Who needs math when ya got voodoo?
  44. 2 points
    It's amazing - I've said it numerous times here. I don't even hold that high an opinion of Bowles myself, it's just that the majority of the arguments against him are so aggressively stupid, it's hard not to defend him.
  45. 2 points
    What the Colts organization and Pagano have done to Andrew Luck's career is s tragedy of Shakespearean proportions.
  46. 2 points
    Forget players, its positions. What are the marque positions in the NFL in descending order? QB LT 3-4 OLB/4-3 DE/Edge Rush Corner. Notice, no Safeties, no Defensive Tackles, no 3-4 DEs. Because those arent premium positions. Drafting for BPA is sound in theory. When youre already good. When that player is a premium position and fills a need. IDGAF how good Jamal Adams or Leonard Williams are, you dont draft a DT or a fracking Safety in the top 6 when you have ZERO QB, ZERO Playmakers, or are already 3 deep at the position on an otherwise barren roster As for Bowles, I thought Rex was bad, and I thought Herm was a moron. But Bowles is worse than both of them. Hes the worst Gameday HC since Kotite. Al Groh would be a massive upgrade, and the only reaaon hes still employed and might actually be back is because of the current social undercurrent in the NFL.
  47. 2 points
    A.J.

    Aliens II: Xenomorph Within

    ^ #1 fan
  48. 2 points
  49. 2 points
    it's the same BS every year the fans obsess about the paper cuts on defense and ignore the sucking chest wounds on offense. the defense isn't perfect but it's good enough to win. The problem is this team couldn't score a point and to fix it they drafted 2 safeties.
  50. 2 points
    The dude was far and away the best player at his position for almost a decade. No way he doesn't go first ballot. You'll be shipping me that tall boy of Schaefer in five years, my dude.
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