jgb

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  • What Jets memory broke your heart?
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  1. Racism Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app
  2. Yeah humor is a dying art, I shall endeavour to be more direct going forward Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app
  3. Yeah that's what I did. The smart GMs explain how signing early is a win/win for team and player. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app
  4. My Friend it was a statement of general exasperation. If you think that's a personal Attack, wait until I get warmed up [emoji1] Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app
  5. Don't seem to remember doing that. Care to remind me when that happened? Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app
  6. Sorry I lost count after eleventeen Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app
  7. That's interesting. So then why do you care that I care so much? That's advanced level diagnosis there. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app
  8. I don't think I'm clever enough to split hairs so finely [emoji5] Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app
  9. Well if you want to max trade value you can't hide him on the bench. I don't see him as a lost cause. Also think how typical of the Jets it is that here we are arguing whether a guy who wants to win at all costs is the right kind of guy to have around. #GoJets Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app
  10. One step at a time, Brother. Call the number on the back of the pamphlet if you want to chat. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app
  11. Oh I don't know that's a deep philosophical question. Going to use my Phone a Friend and defer to Rene Descartes on this one: "Except our own thoughts, there is nothing absolutely in our power." Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app
  12. I also try not to drink right before work Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app
  13. I mean beyond this year. He is a sunken cost this year. It is what it is. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app
  14. The accuracy thing is huge. When a Brady or a Brees can consistently put it on the receiver's belt buckle, he doesn't need the elite skills necessary to gain significant separation play after play like he would need with a less-accurate thrower. If Jeremy Kerley was a Patriot, I think you'd be looking at a 90+ catch player and if Edelman was a Jet he'd be... well, Jeremy Kerley. Probably a lot of guys in the league that would be true for Brady is just that good. But having a Randy Moss in his prime wouldn't turn an average QB into Brady. I agree with you some WRs are transcendent players, and your list feels about right. But given that a QB touches the ball every snap, I still say the QB elevates the supporting cast more than the other way around. Put another way I'd bet on the elite QB with the average receivers (which he would get more out of then their skill indicates) over the average QB with one elite WR, who can only be fed so much. Sure there are exceptions when you also have an unstoppable OLine and stud RB, maybe you can protect the QB a bit and make him look better than he is (like Dak Prescott, who would not have won OROTY on almost any other team, Hell he wasn't the best offensive rookie on his own team). But that's not the easiest path to win a championship. If there were 10 roads to the SB, 9 of them depend on an elite QB imho. That's a long winded way to say if Geno had a reasonable chance to succeed in the future, we would've seen more evidence suggesting that possibility even with the "lack of weapons" he undoubtedly experienced. Thus, it's possible (I'd argue reasonable) to believe both that Geno had a below average supporting cast but still himself sucks.
  15. The fear of Geno succeeding doesn't keep me up at night. Regarding ODB, there is a bit of a chicken-or-the-egg argument here. Namely, what would ODB be without competent QB play? I suspect if ODB had the misfortune of being drafted by the Jets, especially given his antics, a fair number of us would be saying that "ODB" stood for "Over-Drafted Bust," or more likely he never would've even been bestowed with an acronym and he'd be "Odell, a solid receiver picked way too early by that nincompoop John Idzik." The point being that every elite QB can be said (by coincidence?) to also have an elite supporting cast. Except perhaps poor Philip Rivers. The question remains: which made which? Different receivers have swirled around the elites like Big Ben, Brees, Brady for years, and yet they deliver time and time again. Is it possible that teams like Pitt and New Orleans just always seem to find studs at the position and can let "elite" WRs go knowing with supreme confidence that they will find another seemingly every draft? Or is it more likely that being paired with an elite QB makes WRs a bit interchangeable and helps one become a stud? In my experience the simplest explanation with the least variables to account for is usually the more accurate. In this case: the QB maketh the supporting cast. Now once in awhile a truly elite QB gets paired with a truly elite WR and then you see records shattered (see: Randy Moss in New England, Rice and Montana).