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  1. OK, a couple of things here: 1) Most off season work between April and End of Aug. will have for most of that time 4 QBs. Why, because you don't want to wear out the arms of the 3 QBs of the 4 that ultimately are competing for spots 1, 2 and 3 on the depth chart. By End of Aug. one of the younglings (Hack or Petty) gets either traded, cut, or goes on either short or long term IR depending on various scenarios. Hack probably wouldn't get cut next year, but there could be a scenario where he shows enough for the Jets to keep McCown, (Watson or Trubinsky if drafted at 6) and Petty, and then Hack is traded to the Texans say if O'Brien can't get a QB in the draft and wants to see if he can take Hack and make him play like he did hist 1st year of college. Sometimes that is what some of these coaches recently from the college circuit do. Look at what Kelly did over the course of the 2 teams he ruined. 2) McCown was needed regardless as the QB/coach of the QB group. Many say that the QB coach does that, but he is not close enough to the trenches to lead/train probably 3 QBs that are in their early 20's. 3) Everyone keeps saying get the franchise QB in 2018. What makes anyone think that is 1st of all a sure thing, and even if they are you have to get to the 1st or 2nd overall draft pick to get either Sam D. or Rosen the probable 1 and 2 QBs next year. All keep saying the Jets are so non-talented, but they still have a good enough front 7, Running game, and some receivers that are most likely going to get them at least enough wins to be drafting between 5-10 making getting the top 2 QBs either impossible or very costly trading too much to get up that high for our situation, which is needing the draft picks and more that we have. In conclusion, as many have said it is not up to us, but if either Watson or Trubinsky are there at 6 and we can't net a huge boatload package for a trade down, Jets should take the QB if they feel good about him. That is a position you have to at times take these risks and not pass up because they could end up being the real deal. We have thrown away top 5-6 overall picks in the 1st round many of defenders and many mid 1st round picks on defenders we have chosen have gotton us close like Revis, Harris, etc. but it can no longer get us or any team such a dominant D that you can win a SB that way any longer. Too much favoring for the O's with penalties and everything else so that is just not the route to go. Sure Denver did it last year, but they still had Manning a HOF to manage up to and including the SB to insure no mistakes would cost them the Championship. We do need to draft another CB, FS, and OLB edge rusher, but we really need this draft to get us players on O to get up to speed with the new O NFL where we can score points and keep our D off the field. We need OL, TE, QB, and even another RB.
  2. Since McCown is injury prone, and Petty is coming off a pretty serious injury, if Jets draft a QB high in round 1, then possibly Petty would be put in short term IR, and then they decide after 6-8 games whether or not he or someone else comes back this season since they don't have to designate up front who comes back from short term IR.
  3. Guys, since there is much debate on this I would just like to say that for any position including QB it is always good for someone to push you. It always makes you better. That doesn't mean that you don't have what it takes or a backbone. That is better than the alternative. What is Cutler, MacCown, or even a Fitz type QB going to teach Hack/Petty?. How to throw INTs or make mistakes when the game is on the line. Those are contagious traits you don't need to teach them. There are no real good mentors out there at the QB position for these guys at this point, so we are better off with someone like Daniel, or MacCarron, to provide health competion and if they win the job they are the bext QB to start. If not they provide us a solid backup QB since they have been doing that their whole careers and should be good enough at it. We have an opportunity with a rebuilding team to have a bunch of you QBs and see which one emerges as a leader and solid QB hopefully. No reason to screw up that opportunity with some old retread who either has never proven anything i.e MacCown, or who has prevoen nothing in years i.e Cutler, both of which we seem to have interest in. The again if the Jets are interested in them then it means they are not giving up on Hack/Petty since those old QBs don't have much if anything left in the tank or will be more trouble than their worth like Cutler.
  4. I'd signup for Namath's take since if we had Daniels, Watson, Hack, and Petty and not one of them pans out we would have to just throw our hands up and say WTF.
  5. CMart, so can he be picked up on waivers with his current contract. Not sure it is worth the $ since he is due 7M the next 2 years, but if you gauge who might go after him and what they will pay him it is something to at least somewhat consider. The current contract he has probably has little gaurenteed if someone picks it up.
  6. Carl, we need competition for Petty/Hack in order to push them to be better and take the starting job. If they can't beat out Daniels he starts till one of them beats him out or someone else we bring in via the draft does. Bringing in a McCown or Cutler (both of which will most likely beat out the younglings due to much more exp.) probably just sets us back with no upside i.e they will win 5-7 or 8 games missing the playoffs and making us draft too low for any good QBs next year. If that occurs with Daniels it is ebtter then with the old retreads. I just think someone like Daniels has a little more upside and he wants a chance to start so why not give him the chance for a position that someday someone like him could come along and possibly resolve for us.
  7. QB Daniels was released and is now available. He is 30 and only 6 feet, but so was Flutie who was pretty darn good even in the NFL. If he doesn't want too much he may be worth a 2 year deal for some reasonable amount of $ that doesn't impact us much this year or next. He has very minimal exp. but hey he has got to be better than Cutler, or RGIII, and unless we make a trade for a MacCaron, Simien, or Savage, etc. Daniels may be the best we can get. We can still even drat a QB with our number 1 pick this year if we have one fall to use we like. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/03/13/chase-daniel-gets-his-wish/
  8. Dominator, there are many that agree on your position with the Oline, but in waek FA/draft LT year the Jets had to take a chance on Beachem, who played less than average last yearsince he cam off an injury the year before and it takes a year to recover. The line all the way accross has players starting at 27 years old or less. They are trying to build it with existing players i.e Carpenter, Johnson, Winter, draft picks Shell, and at LT FA Beachem. And they have some depth inside Dozier (Plays Guard and Center) and Watts at G as well as Igluna LT/RT and Qvale at RT. The draft hopefully nets us a good prospect at Center and maybe (Though a supposedly a weak LT draft) a LT in the 3-5 round. Then we have an overall line to potential go forwward with. I played Oline in HS, though different than the Pros, but The line last year was not as bad as many say. The run blocking on both sides and up the middle was pretty good for the most part, but Gailey never stuck with it enough. The QBs mostly through INTs without being pressured much, and when the were pressured didn't get rid of the ball quick enough like when Geno was knowcked to IR for the season. That is on the QBs, not the line. The QB needs to properly step up in the pocket and not sit at the top of the pocket waiting for edge rushers to nail them like Fitz was doing a lot.
  9. Skeptable has a good point. Dallas did exactly that. They build the whole team and then just added in 1 draft the fortune of a top ranked RB and a log shot QB in the 4th round that can run the team in Dak, Without building the whole team first Elliot and Dak ould have been nowhere near as successful. And I agree also with the first 2 rounds being O players if they are worth it at that position or somewhat close. In the 1st if most of the QBs fall to us I would take Watson or Trubinsky just because we need to take the risk and cannot bank on having a chance at the top QBs in 2018.
  10. They'll have him in for a visit on Monday. Maybe he gets stuck with the snow and can't leave before they get him to sign: http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/report-jets-to-host-donta-hightower/
  11. Well, Mac being from the Texans, it's good A$$wiler wasn't there while Mac was or Texans would have probably got a good deal from the Jets like Richardson, Hack, and this years 2nd round pick. I shouldn't make fun of Mac since I feel he has done pretty well outside of his QB moves, but since that is the most important posistion in football he is running out of chances there. 1 or 2 more goofball QB moves that don't workout and have bad repricussions like wasting years, $, draft picks, etc. is going to get our flyboys to get to work on the new run him out of town banner.
  12. Beerfish, Very good to exceptional starting LTs in the NFL make 10-12M per year. 5.5M would be about what this guy should get.
  13. Gee, I said swap the 6th with their 1st pick, not just give them the 6th.
  14. As shown in link below there may be bad blood between Washington and the 49ers that could squash the trade for QB Cousins. We have a pretty good relationship with Washington as we have traded with them in the past, though one year they signed a bunch of our guys, but that's no biggy. Anyhow, they know next year they will lose him for only at best a 3rd round comp pick. Would it be worth us packaging some type of fair deal since they will lose him soon anyway of something to the affect of Richardson, and a swap of our 1st round picks this year. If we need to sweeten the pot they get one of our 3rd rounders this year. That would be a win-win for both teams to some degree in that we still have 6 draft picks this year and can take maybe an Olineman with the 1st round pick they give us, plus we get a starting QB. Meanwhile they get the 6th overall pick and a 3rd in 2017 draft, Richardson, and can get a QB by either taking Romo(Forget the unwritten rule of not moving between division teams since Favre did it), or they can draft a QB at 6 though they seem to want to win now and may not have patience with a rookie QB. In any event what does the forum think on this?. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/03/08/bad-blood-may-keep-washington-from-dealing-with-49ers/
  15. I know many still say Geno over say a Hoyer, but Geno being the exp. QB with younglings under him probably isn't the best guy to set an example on and off the field. Off the field he doesn't have a good attitude and on the field he makes bad decsions that young QBs may also pick up on. Also, how can you help guide anyone when you can't get the job done?.