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  1. Crazy stat from Cimini

    Eli had good #s in 2015 but he was terrible. he put up a ton of garbage time points and melted late in games throughout the year including against us which gave us a chance to steal that game. Eli hasn't been good in many years and the Giants O has suffered b/c of it despite all the weapons around him.
  2. standings after week 2 Rank Entry, OwnerEntry Promote / Demote Remove 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 TotalTot PCT 1* Skeptable NationSkeptable 9 11 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 20 99.2 1* Murrell2878espn50316828 10 10 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 20 99.2 3* its_starkits_stark 7 10 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 17 89.7 3* BlackCatdoublel9 7 10 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 17 89.7 5* no pslsvjdbbq 7 9 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 16 81.7 5* Beaverrbljet 7 9 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 16 81.7 7* nyjuncNYJUNC 7 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 15 71.7 7* Crazy CarlNooge40 8 7 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 15 71.7 7* Barneybrackespn75038450 10 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 15 71.7 10* slowmoe57 2slowmoe57 6 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 14 60.7 10* edscubaedscuba1111 6 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 14 60.7 10* austinkhall87austinkhall87 6 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 14 60.7 10* jamesrmr2 1jamesrmr2 7 7 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 14 60.7 14* barkusJetsIn2020 5 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 13 50.8 14* 56mehl56ggorban 6 7 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 13 50.8 14* DMancuso77 1DMancuso77 7 6 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 13 50.8 17 EY_EYEY_EY 6 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 11 37.8 18* PcolaTallenfamily013 0 10 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 10 34.7 18* WolfeJetJETSva 5 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 10 34.7 20 HacksWobblyBallssnorts74 6 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 6 19.8 21 HawkHawk11220 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 4 12.7
  3. This team must be sold

    Maybe Leon Hess' corpse can buy the team back and Jet fans can realize how good we have had it w/ Woody.
  4. Crazy stat from Cimini

    you seem to be a bigger giant fan than jet fan.
  5. Crazy stat from Cimini

    That sounds like excuse making to me. we only had 7 garbage time points this past weekend and 1 garbage time TD against Buf. take those out and we are still better. if they are in 14-10 dogfights why can't their O score more? their last 8 games last year the Giants went 6-2. the games they won they allowed 20, 16, 13, 7, 6, 10. the games they lost they allowed 24 each time. Eli stinks, he has been holding this team back, when the D is really good they win, if not they lose. Eli has incredible weapons at his disposal while we have a seahawks reject as our #1 WR yet we are scoring more.
  6. Jet Coaches and their QB's

    just like 1998 he was still a threat D's had to gameplan for which opened up the p[ass game. In the SB he only had 11 carries for 42 yds and a TD. maybe if they didn't abandon the run game and try to rely on Drew and the pass game they would have won or had a chance? or maybe if another non LT led BB D didn't fold in big a spot?
  7. In 4 of his 6 postseasons(how many HOFers in parity era only made playoffs 6 times in 13+ year career?) he went one and done. yes he was really good in those 2 runs but he has NEVER won a playoff game when his D allowed more than 20 points. let's look at HOFers that played in the 80s and beyond and see how many never won a PO game when D allowing more than 20. also let's check how many made it under 50% of seasons Dan Fouts, made it 4 of basically 9 full seasons, 44%- similar but Fouts set records, was multiple all pro and 2 of his playoff wins opponents scored 38 and 28. Joe Montana- no need to even post Jim Kelly: took over worst team in football by the way, made POs 8x in 11 seasons, won PO games when opponent scored 34 John Elway: 10 PO apps in 15 seasons, 67%. won PO games when opponent scored 33, a SB when opp scored 24 Steve Young(who I think is very overrated but a deserving HOFer): 7 PO apps in 9 seasons as starter. won PO games when opps scored 28 & 27 Dan Marino: 10 PO apps in 16 seasons, 63%. won PO game w/ opp scoring 28 Warren Moon: 7 PO apps in 13 seasons, 54%. even Warren Moon who was terrible postseason QB won a game when opp scored 23 Troy Aikman: took over worst team in football. made PO 8x in 12 seasons. won PO game where opp scored 27 Brett favre: 12 POs in 19 seasons, 63%. legendary PO choker but he won games where opps scored 24 & 27 Kurt Warner: took over awful franchises and led both to SBs. 5 PO apps in basically 6 full seasons. won PO games when opps scored 37, 24, 24, 25 and FORTY FIVE are we saying Eli belongs on a list w/ these players? seriously? all b/c his D shut down historically great offenses and allowed him to win SBs by leading O to 17 and 19 pts?
  8. he didn't deserve either MVP, he led his O to 17 and 19 pts while his Ds held down historically great offenses. The only Super Bowl winners to score less to win a SB were: 1968 Jets 1970 Colts 1972 Dolphins he's a modern day Jim Plunkett. can win w/ really good team around him but not a HOFer.
  9. keep in mind outside of Romo, Palmer and Ben the other guys played in very different eras and Brunell, Bledsoe, McNabb(who was much better than Eli), palmer have no shot to get in. A lot of people like to compare him to Ben, I think Ben is a million times better. plays in tougher division, wins more games, wins more playoff games, the only negative is Ben isn't durable which is why their compiled #s are similar. I think Ben is a lock HOFer and Eli doesn't deserve it but when you look at compiled #s w/o context they look similar. Eli has zero AP teams, Ben 1x 2nd team Ben has 5 legit Pro Bowl selections, Eli has 2 total pass attempts: Eli 6895 Ben 6003 892 more pass attempts, that's a lot. TD passes: Eli 321 Ben 305 if we prorate Ben pass attempts to Eli's then Ben would have 350 pass yds: Eli 48,673 Ben 47,320 let's prorate to Eli's attempts: 54,351 starting to see why Eli's compiled #s are on par w/ Ben? passer rating: Eli top 5 ZERO Ben: 6x(highest was 2nd) career comp %: Eli 59.8 Ben 64.2 Playoffs: Ben: won playoff games in 6 different postseason Eli: 2 Ben: 5 title game apps Eli: 2 Ben: 3 SB apps Eli: 2 Ben: longest playoff drought was 2 years(missed 2012 and 2013(team was 7-6 w/ him and 8-8) Eli: 4 years(and 5 of 6 yrs in much weaker division) record as starter: Eli: 108-93, 54% Ben: 125-60, 68% pts led O's to in SBs: Eli 18 PPG Ben: 22 PPG, Ben's lowest amount he led an O to is higher than Eli's highest amount. This is the guy people think Eli is closest to, the reality is he's not close to him b/c he is not close to being a legitimate Hall of Famer.
  10. I hope the committee isn't as ill informed as the average fan. it will be an embarrassing day for the Hall if he even is a legit finalist.
  11. you compared Eli to Jurgensen and Griese based on compiled stats rather than against their peers in the other thread. You don't have an argument.
  12. 2 SB rings thanks to incredible D 2 undeserved SB MVPS where he led his O to 17 and 19 pts 4 pro bowls where he only made 2 and was an injury replacement in the other 2. led NFL THREE times in INTs 8th I yds, 7th in attempts. he's a complier in a pass happy era. Joe is not in b/c of his #s, he is in b/c of what he meant to the growth of this league and this game and even w/ his mediocre #s Joe has more top 5 seasons in yards, TDs, rating than Eli.
  13. Joe made it b/c of what he meant to the game not b/c of his play on the field. Joe was a big reason why this game grew at such a rapid pace and he won the biggest game in pro football history. Eli doesn't have that on his resume.
  14. so you are going to compare stats from this pass happy era to those of players from the 70s? seriously? Griese vs. Eli: Griese: 8 time PB, 2x all pro Eli 4x PB, ZERO time All Pro(not even second team) big edge Griese pass yds: Griese: 1x top 5(4th), Eli 2x(highest was 5th) slight edge Eli pass TDs: griese 3x top 5, led 1 time. Eli 2x top 5(highest was 4th) big edge Griese rating: Griese 6x top 5, led 1 time. Eli ZERO times top 5, only top 10 one time(7th) HUGE edge Griese INTs: Griese 1 time top 5(3rd). Eli 5 times top 5 and led league 3 times Eli isn't close to Griese Jurgensen: 5x PB, 2x All pro big edge Sonny pass yds: 6 times top 5, led FIVE times. HUGE edge Sonny pass TDs: 7 times top 5, led 2x HUGE edge Sonny rating: 7 times top 5, led 1x. HUGE edge Sonny INTs: 5 x top 5, led twice slight edge Sonny come on, please at least try make a reasonable argument.
  15. Not only does he not deserve to be in the HOF, he doesn't even deserve to be considered. he has been a mediocre QB his entire career w/ the exception of a season or 2. 2 very good months where his D led them to both titles does not make up for 10+ seasons of mediocre play. He has NEVER made even 2nd team all pro. he has made 4 pro bowls but two of them were as injury replacements where he didn't earn it. he has never led in any major statistical category other than INTERCEPTIONS which he has led THREE times. He has played 13 seasons and only made the playoffs 6 times, he has been one and done FOUR times. He has been SHUT OUT at HOME in the playoffs- for reference mark Sanchez never led an O to less than 17 pts in a playoff game and he did it w/ less talent around him than Eli. Oh and he also led O's to 9 and 13 pts in 2 other playoff games. He has 2 Super Bowl MVPs but we know he didn't deserve either and they default to QBs more often than not. The Giants D held NE to 14 and 17 points in the 2 SBs. That was 24 and 15 points below their reg season averages against the greatest QB of all time who in his other 5 SBs has led his O's to an average of 26 PPG. He has NEVER won a single playoff game when his D has allowed more than 20 points. Let's look at those SB runs: 2007: at TB: W 24-14, hold TB to 14 which was 7 below season average and force 3 TOs at Dal: W 21-17, hold Dal to 11 below season average. 1 TO at GB: W 23-20(OT), hold GB to 7 less than season average in 5 qtrs., force INT that sets up GW FG to send them to SB. 2 TOs vs. NE: W 17-14, hold NE to 24 pts below season avg. 1 TO Held opposing Os to over 12 PPG less than season averaged and forced 7 TOs- almost 2 per game. 2011: vs. Atl: W 24-2. D shuts out Atl, 25 less than season average. at GB: W 37-20. Holds GB to 15 less than avg., forces 4 TOs at SF: W 20-17(OT). Holds SF to 7 less than average in 5 qtrs. 2 TOs. In 3rd, 4th and OT he led NYG to 10 points- each score came off a fumbled/muffed punt to set them up deep in SF territory including the GW in OT. vs. NE: W 21-17, held NE to 15 less than average and scored a safety which proved huge. 1 TO held opposing Os to 16 PPG less than season average, forced 7 TOs which again is almost 2 per game. Eli is a solid starter, dependable. you know he will line up every week but you also know you will get mostly mediocre play out of him every week. he can win some games for you, he can lose some games for you. He missed the playoffs 6 of 7 years, has only won playoff games in 2 seasons. The Hall of fame is supposed to be for the best of the best- the all time greats. How can it be taken seriously by putting such a mediocre QB in? he has been durable and that is the best thing you can say about him so in this pass happy era he has thrown a lot and compiled some mostly meaningless #s but again w/ SB talent he won 10 and 9 games and w/ talented teams he went through a stretch of one postseason in 6 years. He's not a Hall of Famer.
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