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  1. Another reason Gailey is gone.
  2. Jets practice 08/17

    They weren't going at full speed today. Beat writers said that from the start.
  3. IMO Forte will practice and play next week. They're just resting him.
  4. Just some info on the WCO..Feel free to add more info for others to understand the O the Jets are now running (yes there are many variations of the WCO but this goes w/the basics) The Green Bay Packers offense is commonly referred to as a “West Coast Offense.” Likewise, Aaron Rodgers is often called a “West Coast Quarterback.” For this article, I’ll take a look at some of the basic route combinations that exemplify the West Coast Offense, particularly those that you are likely to see on Sundays in Lambeau Field. Disclaimer This is an oversimplification for illustrative purposes. There are nearly endless route and personnel combinations. I’m only going to cover a few of the most common and basic concepts. The West Coast Offense Defined We must start any discussion about the West Coast Offense with Bill Walsh. He, of course, is the greatest West Coast Offense coach in NFL history and won three Super Bowls. Over the years, the moniker “West Coast Offense” has come to mean many things, and if you ask three people to define it, you might get three different answers. Certainly, offenses evolve over time in that ever-changing game of cat-and-mouse between the defenses, but some of the defining aspects of the West Coast Offense haven’t changed for decades. I’ve come to understand the West Coast Offense to mean how Walsh modified Sid Gillman’s passing principles to match his own attack philosophy. Specifically, Walsh utilized a short, precision timing passing game to attack the underneath coverage to supplement the run game. However, that doesn’t mean the West Coast offense is strictly a short passing game. There are plenty of vertical routes that come open once the underneath dominance is established. Numerous of Walsh’s offensive-minded descendants, including current Packers head coach Mike McCarthy, former head coach Mike Holmgren, Jon Gruden, Mike Shanahan, and Brian Billick, have all won their own championships with their own flavors of Walsh’s offense. By inspecting the coaching tree below, you can see that Walsh was a disciple of Sid Gillman, who I mentioned last week as being the father of the modern passing game. Gillman’s imprint revolutionized the game during the 1960s and his concepts are still widely used today. The Sid Gillman coaching tree. (Public domain image from Wikipedia). I’m not saying that the passing game was primitive and haphazard before Gillman, but it certainly was more refined and orchestrated after him. Gillman was a master of designing routes that targeted specific aspects of the defense and tied the timing of them to the number of steps the quarterback took while dropping back in the pocket. What Gillman started, and Bill Walsh and his descendants finished, was the use of route combinations to specifically attack the defense. To understand how Gillman’s and Walsh’s route combinations attack the defense, we must first understand the very basics of how the defense guards the field. Essentially, the defense divides the field vertically, along with the yard lines, into “halves” with an underneath half and a deep half. Typically, the underneath half is 7 yards from the line of scrimmage and the deep half extends 15-20 from the line of scrimmage. This is just a baseline, of course; great variation does exist. The “halves” of the field the defense must guard. Additionally, the defense must guard sideline to sideline within each half. Therefore, pass route combinations are designed to attack different aspects of the area the defense covers. Rather than attacking a specific defender, receivers attack positions on the field. This idea was a Gillman invention. He was a huge proponent of the “spread ’em and shred ’em” approach. The Horizontal Spread Principle The first way to attack the defense is to spread them horizontally to create wide lanes. This is one of the staples of the West Coast Offense, and it’s accomplished through the formation. The offense splits the outside wide receivers in “plus splits”, which means outside the numbers. Doing so spreads the defenders, making them each responsible for more area to cover. From this alignment, the West Coast Offense can run the majority of their route combinations, which include slants and curls, to attack the underneath half. When Walsh originally drew up the West Coast Offense, it was dominated by short, underneath passes with precision timing. The quarterbacks took short drop backs and quickly released the ball. This combination of shorter routes and quick throws is sometimes called a “tempo” or “timing” concept. Sometimes, they are called “high percentage” passes. Gillman and Walsh both recognized that the offense could not rely only on spreading the defense horizontally simply because the defense would crowd the underneath half. If the box was crowded, the running game would most likely suffer. The Vertical Spread Principle Successful offenses also spread the field vertically. Deep route combinations open up the defense considerably and require them to guard much more of the field. It also pulls safeties out of the box. The vertical passing game was popularized by Gillman, but it is experiencing another golden era in today’s NFL. Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers have made livings running the four verticals passing attack. Streaks and post patterns are two ways to attack the deep half of the defense. The High-Low Spread Principle What makes modern offenses “modern” is their route combinations to simultaneously attack the defense both vertically and horizontally. This spreads the defense out and requires them to defend the entire field. Gillman was among the first to popularize this spread and shred approach. If the defense is playing man-to-man coverage, each defender has to run farther. If they are playing zone coverage, each defender is responsible for a larger area on the field. Either way, it’s more taxing on the defense. One of the most basic route combinations that attacks the defense from both perspectives is the “smash” concept. The “smash” combination has the outside receivers running in routes and the outside receivers running fade routes. The in routes attack the underneath half and the fade routes attack the deep half. Notice the alignment of the yellow ovals. The routes are spread in both the vertical and horizontal planes. The receivers on the same side of the field intersect on the same horizontal plane, but are separated by by vertical space. This poses coverage challenges for the defense. Note: the smash doesn’t have to be run to both sides of the formation. I drew it as such to simply the rectangle that offenses establish to attack the defense. Different high-low spreads exist. What separated Walsh from Gillman in the evolution of the passing offense was Walsh’s quest for the perfect passing attack using oblique geometry. He took the next step and carried the torch from Gillman. The Oblique Triangle Spread Principle Defenses always catch up to offenses if given enough time. They got smart to the coupled vertical and horizontal attacks and adapted zone/man combinations and pattern matching zones. Traditional zones are usually uniform grids across the field. Pattern matching zones change size, shape, and location depending on what routes the offense was running at them. They were a way to defend route combinations. If you’re good with spatial geometry, you can see how the above route combinations were typically of square or rectangle configurations. Accordingly, defenses countered with their own rectangles in zone coverage. Pattern matching zones change the size and location of the rectangles, negating the route combinations. Walsh discovered how to beat these zones with an alternate passing geometry. By combining routes to make oblique triangles, his receivers could beat almost any flavor of zone, including pattern matching. The triangles also made man-to-man coverage less effective, so Walsh unleashed nearly unstoppable attacks. To create triangles, three receivers need to align to one side of the formation. A very common triangle combination is illustrated below, which shows the inside receiver running a shallow out, the slot receiver running a fade, and the outside receiver running an in. The weak side receiver’s route is not as important in this concept, but they typically run deep to pull a safety with them. The key to this triangle is the layering of the three corners. One corner is in the underneath half and another corner is in the deep half. The third corner is in the seam between the defensive halves. This puts tremendous pressure on the defense because the routes are no longer run along nice rectangles. The layering is oblique, which makes it harder to play pattern matching zone. Since receivers are crossing, man-to-man coverage is more difficult. By running a route in the seam, and having routes cross, it basically becomes a game of, “Do you have him, or do I have him?” Attack when the defense is confused. In the illustration below, another common triangle is created by the tight end running a sail route. This is united with another in and out combination, but once again, the layering is oblique. These route combinations that Gillman and Walsh came up with are found all over the NFL today. Even more so, since Mike McCarthy is a direct descendant of both Gillman and Walsh, these concepts are found all through his game plans. The key to making this offense go, however, is excellent quarterback play. Gillman had John Hadl, Walsh had Joe Montana, and McCarthy has Aaron Rodgers. http://allgbp.com/2014/04/21/xs-and-os-introduction-to-west-coast-offense-route-combinations/
  5. Updted Roster as of Aug 16

    Great job. One nitpick. CB Clark, not Jones, is Injured (recovering from ACL)
  6. Please merge or delete if powers that be so desire Ian Rapoport‏ @RapSheet DJ Fluker joins Nick Mangold, Brian Schwenke & others on the interior OL market. #Jets, #Titans, #Seahawks on Schwenke
  7. 8/15 practice tweets

    In other words stop asking everyday you idiots.
  8. Learn From History

    And Hack also got the sh*t kicked out of him his soph/jr seasons in a non-pro style O which caused a lot into him establishing bad habits, footwork etc...They'll never say it but IMO that was one, if not the biggest reason for his red shirt season.
  9. Learn From History

    Huh? I'll take Marino as my QB. Who wouldn't? Matt Barkley, Leinart, Lockert were all considered top QBs the yr before they came out.
  10. Learn From History

    Dennis Waszak Jr. (@DWAZ73) 8/15/17, 12:34 PM #Jets OC John Morton on Hackenberg: "Basically, he's a rookie." Likes how he's protecting the ball. Says he's got lots to work on.
  11. Learn From History

    Hack did what was asked of him Saturday by those in charge. It may not fit the fans or medias agenda (who I am convinced want to see him suck) but I'll put faith in the coaches, especially Bates, who has helped develop other QBs, before those that only see snipets of what Hack has done. This is like criticizing a 22 yr old who has played a few MLB exhibition games and only hit singles and doubles. "But he hasn't hit a HR yet".
  12. Learn From History

    Most likely Hackenberg will be further along, and at worst, starter ready for '18 than any '18 drafted QB. The Jets will also know what they have in Hack as a person, student, teammate, his work ethic, if he's coachable etc... im not sure your statement is accurate. Most college QBs aren't NFL ready because most are playing in spread Os which doesn't translate to the NFL Let's see where things are after this college and NFL season. Who knows how these college QBs will turnout this yr. Maybe they take it to the next level, plateau or regress. And the same can be said for Hack in regards to a NFL QB. Everybody wants answers now and that's just not how it works. Just enjoy the season and watching all the young players play/develop.
  13. Camp Updates - 08/14/17

    Death, taxes & Jets unable to cover the wheel route
  14. NYJFTV (@NYJFTV) 8/14/17, 2:23 PM New WR Dan Williams is a big dude...listed on depth chart as 6'2 234...#Jets looking to mold Quincy 2.0?
  15. NYJFTV (@NYJFTV) 8/14/17, 2:37 PM QBs and WRs working deep balls #JetsCamp #Jets Should get some here off the ledge
  16. FA Rumors / Signings / Cuts

    New York Jets (@nyjets) 8/14/17, 1:47 PM We have signed WR Daniel Williams and waived WR Deshon Foxx. nyj.social/2vxLC9a Williams recorded 47 receptions for 599 yards and three touchdowns for Jackson State in 2016. The 6'3", 200-pounder totaled 2,497 yards and 19 touchdowns on 184 receptions in four seasons for the Tigers. Foxx originally signed a reserve/future contract with the Jets in January, but was waived May 9. He was re-signed later that month when the team placed WR Devin Smith on injured reserve after he tore his ACL in Phase One of the offseason workout program. Williams 6'3". Seems more of a WCO WR.
  17. If any team wants Scot McCloughan's opinion on the 2017 NFL Draft they know where to find him. NFL Network's Mike Garafolo reported on Thursday's edition of Path to the Draft that the ex-Washington Redskins general manager is back running a scouting service. "As a matter of fact, Scott Campbell the other day, the team's director of college scouting, said McCloughan's influence is on their board as it's formulated right now," Garafolo said. "Now they've added some things since he's left, they've done their own work on that. But this process began before McCloughan left as a general manager, so his influence for sure is on that board. Let me add another wrinkle to this: Bruce Allen, the team president, said at the league meetings last month that McCloughan was free to work for other teams. "He has done just that," Garafolo continued. "He had a scouting service before he became the general manager of the Redskins, and according to sources, he is back running that scouting service and has advised NFL teams on his thoughts on the draft prospects eligible for the draft this year. Now he's not giving up Redskins information, he's only giving up his own evaluations. He is free to do that. So not only will he have an influence on Washington's draft, but also the drafts of a few other teams in this draft this year." McCloughan has always been viewed as a fantastic talent evaluator dating back to his time with the Packers, Seahawks and 49ers. His abrupt, convoluted departure in Washington won't change that fact. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000803018/article/scot-mccloughan-back-to-running-a-scouting-service
  18. Complaining he threw to open WRs for completions. It's mind boggling. But not surprising.
  19. @MccloughanScot how much time does it take for your opinion to change on a player, for better or worse? Game to game and then I take an acumulation Didn't you "stand on the table" for crowder as well? Yep. Lol figuratively
  20. @MccloughanScot Who’s the best Offensive Lineman you’ve ever evaluated ? Walter Jones @MccloughanScot You need to get Ted Thompson on Twitter. Ted is a really good friend. He will never be on Twitter, I promise you
  21. @MccloughanScot. Have you ever "over drafted" a player for any reason? Yes. I've made mistakes @MccloughanScot what's your thoughts on Reuben Foster. Stud @MccloughanScot player you drafted who exceeded your expectations the most? Frank Gore. He's going to the HOF
  22. Really interesting stuff from Scot @MccloughanScot player you fought the hardest for the Seahawks to draft? Andy Dalton @MccloughanScot - did you fight to draft Patrick Willis? The story goes that you stood on a table & said "we're taking him." True? Yes this is true
  23. @MccloughanScot why did you pass on Leonard Williams. Was it the injury history? Scot Mccloughan (@MccloughanScot) 8/13/17, 10:56 PM I wanted Brandon. He's gone to the pro bowl already, he sets a culture. twitter.com/MattTesorero/s…
  24. McCown on if he would say Christian Hackenberg looked decisive... "Exactly. That's a good word. That's what Coach [Jeremy] Bates has been drilling into us. We have a plan in place every time we step to the line of scrimmage of where we expect the ball to go and how we expect the play to go, and these two young guys are doing an excellent job of just playing within it."