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jason423 last won the day on April 14 2012

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  1. I think in that era the Pro Bowl carried far more weight than it does now and wasnt that automatic where having a name got you in. All Pro I think is also more influenced by circumstance now (such as Revis making it as a Patriot which would not have happened on any other team) though its still a tough designation to get. Id still consider Revis' honors to be better and hell get far more support for the HOF than Klecko got but I do think Kleckos honors for that time are very solid.
  2. I think if you look at their play relative to their position Revis is the better player. He was just downright dominant for a 2-3 year stretch. The 2009 season was absolutely ridiculous. That said Klecko had a longer career with the Jets and I think really hit on the attributes that most Jets fans seem to respond to whereas Revis' whole career was played more from a mercenary/business first point of view and his last two seasons were just poor. So I think that for most people Klecko will probably go down as the best Jet defensive player.
  3. The reason his salary is so low this year is because the Patriots paid him a $28 million bonus last season. They have done some funny things with his contract, but this current deal, considering his age, is pretty legit.
  4. I think Pryor once called me the "CEO of dumbass" or something like that for suggesting after a bad play that his future might not be at safety. So I cant say Im that surprised at a social media fight with someone who actually went out of his way to start something with him.
  5. If a 2nd round pick was offered by the Cowboys it came last year not this one. Im not even sure if they would have offered it then even with the two sides talking.
  6. Im with RJF on this one and said the same last night when they made the pick which was not popular among some people. S, 3rd DE, ILB, S is simply not the way you typically build a good team. Those are the kind of picks that you make when you have some kind of foundation in place and the Jets havent had anything resembling a foundation since 2012. Hopefully they can find that foundation over the next two days, but Adams could be the most dynamic safety in the NFL and the Jets would probably still be a 5 win team.
  7. I agree with this to some extent but Im not sure if they would have done much better following their older format either. I grew up with Sportscenter and their NFL Sunday coverage. In college I remember guys staying up all night watching those highlights and players certainly were thrilled to make it into the reel. But now we are in an era where highlights are being sent to your phone or on social media during a game. Players hop on twitter after a game to see what people are saying not ESPN to see if the made the show. I just think that was likely going to run its course anyway. I agree with the other point though about loss of insights. ESPN basically seemed to split into two divisions. The company approach to coverage where everyone is great and can do no wrong and then the other extreme which was the personality based shows that just had contrary opinions for the sake of being controversial. Once NBC got back in the NFL game my ESPN viewing went way down since they took over the prime time recaps on Sunday plus the NFL Networks shows I enjoy more. Even their radio shows have basically nothing there outside of the occasional guests that you dont get elsewhere. I enjoy some of their print work, specifically on insider, but thats a pretty niche audience.
  8. In general you dont pay a QB $6 million because you plan to sit him on the bench(unless you are the Eagles) so I would expect the Jets to consider McCown the starter going into training camp. My assumption is that they will treat this similar to how the Seahawks ended up treating Matt Flynn a few years back in that if one of the young guys stands out in training camp they will turn a non-competition into a new starter, but if neither looks great they will simply stick with the idea that its McCown all along. Having an open QB competition would probably be a disaster for the Jets given McCowns injury history. Its pretty much a lock that McCown is going to miss games this year so you want to at least keep up some type of PR face that you arent throwing the year away going to these guys in the slimmest of slim chances the team is around 500 when McCown goes down. Even just from a PR standpoint it at least makes you look like you are making some kind of turn to the future if the team stinks and they bring these guys in rather than a total give up on the season in week 6 following a bad showing in meaningful time in August.
  9. I think some of that was maybe a bit of fear on losing Winters but I think another part of it is the reality of where the offensive line salaries have gone (minus the RT) over the last few years because of the lack of college talent. When I look at the list of guard salaries which just a few years ago was $3-4 million for guys like Winters its so hard to believe that these guys are now $7-8M. My guess is if the Jets had a better line they probably wouldnt bring him back at the money but giving how bad it is dumping him turns them into the Seahawks where it looks like they arent even trying to build a line.
  10. I think this was more along the lines of the way things worked. At the time they were willing to do different style of deals depending on level of involvement but I tend to think that things worked a bit like a deal where you sell and stay on as a "consultant" managing certain parts of the site and remaining a public face of sorts. You get something up front and from there the revenue "explosions" would be paying you off year by year in a far greater way that you ever could do on your own. I dont blame anyone for doing it but it is kind of a shame to see what were pretty vibrant communities get swallowed up and then just thrown away. JI basically became an internet infomercial for discounted memberships and others more generic clickbait writing to fill a void in some platforms. Very few of those acquisitions seem to be for the better of everyone.
  11. His holding out did get him a better offer, primarily the gigantic payment at the end of the deal, but the up front money was largely the same. IIRC the shift came from years 4 and 5 in which the 4th year payment was lowered and the 5th raised. In return the Jets developed this point system which they ended up using in a few contracts afterwards that would determine the 6th year salary for Revis. The 6th year salary was similar to that of a top 5 pick or a later 1st round QB that had a chance to earn a big escalator. But this was never an issue that the Jets were offering him some contract that was terrible for him. There never was a chance that the NFLPA would not have allowed the contract to go down because it was so bad. It was a legit NFL contract that was pretty much going to overslot him. The ended up overslotting him even more to make him happy and he still held out the minute his salary dipped down. The Jets had tried to protect themselves from that in the contract by voiding the 5th and 6th year guarantees but that would not have mattered to Revis because he was so good by that point (guarantees are really only worthwhile if you are a borderline player it makes no difference while you are playing well since the team is never cutting you) so he held out. The Jets were far more aggressive in contract 2 which was way more stringent and he still was ready to hold out again with a whole group of reporters in the back pockets of his agent to plead his case. .
  12. This is factually inaccurate. The Jets did want Revis to sign for an extra season but he would not have been the first to ever do that. The Jets also offered him a massive contract to take that extra season. The payout on the contract was essentially that of the 10th pick in the draft with huge upside due to a massive escalator in the final contract year. Revis agents did a great job with framing the contract in a light that always made him sound underpaid and certain reporters ran with it in an effort to get exclusives on Revis (some of whom have killed him since he parted with his agents) but as far as situations go Revis has probably held out more than anyone in the NFL. Good for him that he was able to make it work out but the guy held out as a rookie, again after just 3 years into a 6 year contract, and was ready to hold out again in the third year of a three year contract when he got traded. The last one was the funniest of the group because there were stories basically saying that the Jets were trying to really hold him to unreasonable standards by asking him to do such crazy things as to show up to work and get paid a million bucks for lifting some weights in April.
  13. There is no bonus due tomorrow. That was negotiated out of his contract. There is an option decision to be made but as far as I know that only deals with him counting or not counting towards the compensatory pick formula.
  14. Basically what he did every season post Minnesota....collect a big pay check, do little, and then get hurt. He retired after 2016 when he realized he wasnt going to really get much of a deal in free agency. When the Bills wide receiver group stunk they got him to come out of retirement to collect a paycheck and then get hurt.
  15. I think this is pretty accurate. Remember when he took the job they were already negative on Kerley and likely assumed either Decker or Marshall had a 1 year shelf life and were going to fill a different role. Even though WRs are more developed now than in the past its still usually year 2 before they really begin to make an impact so really the way to play a position of need there is to grab it a year early so the transition is smoother. I think they identified Smith as their version of DeSean Jackson or someone like that.