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  1. Id guess in the ballpark of $15M on the high end if a team is really into him. Follow a pattern similar to Kaepernick or Dalton deals which are team friendly contracts. The big question I would have in giving him a figure that high though is how many teams will be into signing him. Just two years ago as a backup he had minimal interest and signed in Buffalo for around $2M a year or something like that. Im not sure how much that opinion would change from not wanting him a $2-3M vs wanting him at $15M off the two Bills seasons especially in light of the dumpster fire known as Brock Osweiler. My guess is the majority of teams would see the Bills stint as enough to go to like $7.5 ot $8M per year on a two year deal. Thats kind of where the market is for the RG3 guys and where Denver (which might be a ogical choice for Taylor) was willing to go for Kaepernick. The higher end of the question mark starters was Nick Foles around $12M which is what Fitzpatrick presumably used to leverage his $12M deal. Jets never really wanted to go above $7 until they seemed to panic at the end. Most of these players all flopped too. Once you get into the $15M range its no longer a question mark and he is without a doubt the starter.
  2. Problem for the Bills is they fronloaded the Taylor contract to pay him like a $20M+ QB which he is not. That was the Bills fault with the way they structured the contract but not surprising as most of their contracts are incredibly player friendly and on the high end of the valuation scale. I think another issue they have with Taylor is that he is probably considered a Rex guy and many people around the NFL dont want to be locked into that kind of player anymore than they would Colin Kaepernick or RG3. Basically you pick up that option and you are locked into a very athletic, project QB who most weeks might struggle to throw for 200 yards and create a number of sack opportunities. Hes fine to take a chance on at the right price, but the Bills dont have him at that price right now.
  3. Im not sure that those similarties really exist between the two coaches. Part of the big issue with canning Pete was the feeling he wasnt really professional enough with the players. Basically his whole mantra was all about having fun with basketball courts, bowling trips, and so on. When the Jets began to sink I think ownership was looking for some reaction on his part to say it wasnt ok, but more likely he was busy playing pickup games of basketball when it would hve been expected that a coach would be prepping for games and drilling his players down. I dont think any of that applies to Bowles. Bowles is coaching a bad team all of whom have checked out on him. If Bowles gets fired its strictly because he has been a bad football coach. Im not sure that there is anything that anyone can bring up that contradicts that either. I dont think firing him puts Woody or the Jets in Steinbrenner mode where you cant get anyone to come here. While Johnson had a quick trigger with Mangini he gave Rex a million years here and didnt even want to get rid of Herm when Herm was doing everything under the sun to get out of his contract so he could take over what he felt was a better team in Kansas City. Before Idzik he gave Bradway and Tannenbaum a million years and if he didnt need a fall guy for 2012 probably would have kept Tannebaum. If the Jets job isnt attractive its because of the management structure. I do think that there is a feeling that Woody and his guys dont know a great deal about football but still want to get involved. That leads to the coach generally getting direct contat with the owner all the time and the GMs being put in a position to potentially make some contract decisions they may not have wanted to do.
  4. Skrine costs $6.25M a year. Thats basically the equivalent of the 5th or 6th draft pick. Top draft picks are cheap now, its the veterans that are expensive. Skrine wsa always overpriced and they could replace him with a better value veteran or a much cheper draft selection.
  5. I think benching Taylor would be contract related. They signed a bit of an oddball deal wih him that has a big option due next year. He has injury protection as well so any late year injury more or less locks him in. Benching him gives them a chance to rework the deal to reflect his actual talent level. The Bills whole front office needs a shakeup. They have done some of the worst contracts in the NFL.
  6. The Jets scouting department needs a complete overhaul. Its pretty much been a disaster for years now when it comes to drafting talent.
  7. While we arent as bad as the worst of the 90s teams with Kotite, since 2011 this is pretty much our worst period of football since then and the lack of playoffs is probably going to challenge the 70s. So its a pretty rough time to be a Jets fan especially if you are younger and grew up in the post Parcells era where the team at least went in and out of playoff contention. The roster has pretty much gone sideways under Mac/Bowles. Its like the Idzik years were some dream episodes for the Jets and when we woke up we found a roster full of the same faces from 2012 like Cro and Revis and a bunch of aging veterans as if they never changed the focus from the last years of Tannenbaum. Not surprisingly the team is right back where they were in 2013 except this time we wont have the dead money issues, just roster holes. That said the one area where we are better off with Bowles and Mac is that I think they are on the same page. Idzik and Rex were in different worlds. Its pretty hard to operate when the coach and the GM have totally different visions and are working against each other hoping the other gets fired.
  8. Revis' $17M salary this year and $6M next year is guaranteed. If he was to retire he walks away from all of that money. There is zero chance that any player, no matter how bad they are, would do that. If he does want to retire and is hoping the Jets cut him hes doing his part to make that happen next March. Hed retire after that.
  9. Certainly cant blame people for being upset with PSLs. The big part of the problem is that the Jets stink and have pretty much stunk since they went into effect. For a big period of time in there the team also looked like it wasnt spending money. Whether it was the cap issues of 2011 and 2012, Idziks strange plan in 2013 and 2014 and even this years group in 2016 people are going to question why they arent putting a consistently good product on the field. Though the team hasnt hit the lowest points the fact is they are close to being back into the 70s in terms of years without even a playoff appearance. The team itself is also not very open with anyone about much anything. At least with the Rex/Tannenbaum group or Herman Edwards there was a more open relationship with the media/fans about stuff. Now its just nothing and its been that way for 4 years. Unfortunately if you bought a PSL you are stuck. You cant walk away as easily from the seats as in the past. They dont give you anything extra on gameday if you go and the stadium never really produced anything special to at least make it an event even with the bad product on the field.
  10. This sounds to me like the case of a naive FO and coach. There are plenty of times where people think that the player dogging it is because of the contract situation (see Wallace, Mike for one of the worst examples) and assume the new deal will make it all better and it never does. Id imagine Richardson will be traded for pennies on the dollar after seeing Wilkerson's issues.
  11. The Jets called the game knowing that Petty probably doesnt belong on an NFL field. Im not against him getting a second or third chance to see if he can gain more confidence from his teammates and staff, but it wasnt a great start.
  12. It was pretty apparent last year that Revis was done as a tier 1 corner, but its crazy to see so many turn on him. People pretty much begged to have him back and the move was made for business purposes last year and it worked. It was a party when he re-signed with the team. Everyone should have known the risk. Hell be gone next year or back at a much lower number and probably a different position in 2017. j
  13. If you watched Revis last season you saw he was in trouble. I got killed on my site and on Twitter for saying it last year, but I thought it was similar to the Asomugha situation where you still saw teams giving a lot of respect and only taking a few chances and then would go and watch the tape and target him the next year until he proves them wrong. I dont think hes dogging it, he just isnt the same player. He was never the same level after his injury to be honest. Tampa realized it. The Patriots worked with him and no surprise let him walk. I think his wrist is also an issue because not only does he not trust his legs but he doesnt trust his ability to be physical at the line to try to throw the timing off. Revis is clearly angling for a move to safety. Hes doing interviews talking about how his body is breaking down. Hes mentioned the safety thing. Im sure at some point hell start talking about Charles Woodson. Plus he can do what he can to do an $11M a year contract and be the highest paid safety. If the Jets dont hold firm he knows he can probably get that. The one thing Revis is lucky about is that these young wide receivers are far more respectful of him than a young Revis was of veteran receivers. Revis at his peak in 2009 ripped on a few guys like Owens and Moss. The young guys could do the same to him but they are more interested in trading jerseys and taking photos after games.
  14. I think most people in Florham Park would also agree that Fitz is overpaid. They were stuck and more or less caved in at the last minute when they looked at the alternatives. It was pretty clear Fitzpatrick has no market when teams like the Browns and Broncos showed zero interest in him. The Jets viewed him all along as a $7M QB but were willing to guarantee him close to two years at that salary, which would have been top level backup money. He was unwilling to do that so they met somewhere in the middle and did the one year deal. This is an area where it would be nice if the Jets got a better identity. That goes for a lot of other teams too but it wasnt a good offseason for the Jets in terms of where they ended up with this deal and Mo's deal. You look at the Broncos and thats a hardline front office. Its a total departure from the Jets one. They set that tone years ago with the Dumervil deal and Tebow trade. It showed again this year when they went nowhere with Osweiler and refused to budge on more than $7Mish a year for Colin Kaepernick. They were willing to go with Mark Sanchez or a low level QB rather than overspend on the position. I get why the Jets did it but if you are willing to do the deal do it early. It avoids all the distractions of the offseason and doesnt make you look like you caved at the last second on a contract.
  15. The Jets didnt have the cap space to fit a $12M charge without redoing other deals. So they did the funny money void year trick in which they technically sign a two year contract to allow the $10M signing bonus to prorate over two seasons. To void the second season all Fitzpatrick has to do is be on the roster in February and the contract yer for 2017 vanishes leaving the jets with $5M in dead money. His $12M contract is the lowest salary for a veteran starter who was penciled in to start upon signing, but is more than all the rookie contract or Brian Hoyer types