Fin Fan In Cali Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 Hey Smizzy what's up? I just wanted to get your guys insight to this. I live in Oceanside, Ca. It's about 30 miles from San Diego. My president is a huge Chargers fan. He comes up to me today, and said have you heard the latest, I said no. The trade rumour now for the end of the season out here on the West Coast is Vilma to the Chargers for Rivers. I just thought I would share that, and see what your thoughts are, and if any you guys have heard this? Late Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 Not gonna happen. End of story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fin Fan In Cali Posted November 30, 2005 Author Share Posted November 30, 2005 Not gonna happen. End of story.I hear you now, but what are you going to do if Pennington doesn't come back in time, or healthy enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 I doubt it could be true. I do not see Vilma going anywhere. Abe on the other hand could be a possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fin Fan In Cali Posted November 30, 2005 Author Share Posted November 30, 2005 By the way my president looked like a kid in a candy store when he told me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 I hear you now, but what are you going to do if Pennington doesn't come back in time, or healthy enough? There are lots of other cheaper options out there, imo. Carr, Schaub, maybe a guy like Gerrard. QB is not that important of a position if you surround it with talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 One of the football yakkers on ESPN threw that out on Sunday. Actually, he said the Jets should trade Vilma and a draft pick for Rivers. As far as I know, that's where it started. I doubt it'll happen, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fin Fan In Cali Posted November 30, 2005 Author Share Posted November 30, 2005 I was just throwing it out there for re-action, and to see if there was any validity to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 I was just throwing it out there for re-action, and to see if there was any validity to it. Then again anything is possible with this franchise. They traded keyshawn and I never thought they would do that and Coles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fin Fan In Cali Posted November 30, 2005 Author Share Posted November 30, 2005 I also bring this up, because depending how the draft ends up, and who comes out, at least for sure you would get a quarterback. I don't think you guys want Jay Fieldler as your starting quarterback in case Pennington doesn't come back from the surgery at 100% or on time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 I also bring this up, because depending how the draft ends up, and who comes out, at least for sure you would get a quarterback. I don't think you guys want Jay Fieldler as your starting quarterback in case Pennington doesn't come back from the surgery at 100% or on time? I believe Feidler signed a 1 year deal. Either way - no I do not think he will be on the roster next year. I think it will be chad, bollinger and a veteran. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 WHy wouldn't we trade Vilma for RIvers I do it everyday, and twice on SUnday Love Vilma though!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet/BosoxFan Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 WHy wouldn't we trade Vilma for RIvers I do it everyday, and twice on SUnday Love Vilma though!! I hope that this is one of your jinxes...Vilma is gonna be an all pro LB one day and a fixture in the Pro Bowl. He cant miss...he has all the tools. Rivers for all we know is the next Browning Nagle. F Him, the Chargers can keep him. Besides, all I am hearing is that Drew Brees will be out the door. Really, it doesnt matter who is throwing the ball to the "new" LT and Antonio Gates? Nobody can cover either one of those guys in all of football. Still though, this is the Jets we are talking about! Dumber things have been done. I'm gonna hold off until training camp before buying my #51 jersey! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fin Fan In Cali Posted November 30, 2005 Author Share Posted November 30, 2005 I hope that this is one of your jinxes...Vilma is gonna be an all pro LB one day and a fixture in the Pro Bowl. He cant miss...he has all the tools. Rivers for all we know is the next Browning Nagle. F Him, the Chargers can keep him. Besides, all I am hearing is that Drew Brees will be out the door. Really, it doesnt matter who is throwing the ball to the "new" LT and Antonio Gates? Nobody can cover either one of those guys in all of football. Still though, this is the Jets we are talking about! Dumber things have been done. I'm gonna hold off until training camp before buying my #51 jersey! Bro, teh Chargers are trying to get a new stadium deal. If they were to trade Brees, and Rivers were to fall on his face, do you think the Chargers would get there stadium deal? I believe Brees is staying, and Rivers and the Chargers will be open for offers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 in case Pennington doesn't come back from the surgery at 100% or on time? Or worse - he does come back 100% on time and we spend the next however many years in mediocrity while spending 63,000 large. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskerPatriot Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 I wouldnt do that trade. I know this is coming from a pats fan but if i was the jets, i would offer a 2nd rounder for Matt Schaub and use the first rounder on Reggie Bush if hes available, if not i would go after a john abraham type DE in Mario Williams from NC State. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joiseyjet Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 Not VILMA !!! Abe or ELLIS maybe not vilma though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 If this trade were to happen, I just don't think I could take it anymore. I would cease to be a Jets fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 GUys You have to give up something to get something Granted, Vilma is a special player, but if we could secure a stud QB for the future, I think you have to do it Everyone said Accorsi was nuts to trade for Manning......how'd that turn out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickkotite Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 a good qb has more value than a great lb i dunno, it is possible they talked and its not a bad trade for both teams. i dont know if he is any good though. its still an unknown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickkotite Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 you know what i just checked his stats. he has done nothing NOTHING. this would be an awful trade vilma has already established himself as a good lb from day 1 sure phil is cute, and all us guys would love to go down on him, but we dont need him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetfan13 Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 One of the football yakkers on ESPN threw that out on Sunday. Actually, he said the Jets should trade Vilma and a draft pick for Rivers. As far as I know, that's where it started. I doubt it'll happen, too. wait a minute...we have to add a draft pick to the D-ROY in order to get an unproven QB that has mechanic problems??> NO WAY JOSE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 GUys You have to give up something to get something Granted, Vilma is a special player, but if we could secure a stud QB for the future, I think you have to do it Everyone said Accorsi was nuts to trade for Manning......how'd that turn out? What the hell has Rivers done to show you he's going to be a "stud" QB? Absolutely nothing. We could be trading a future all-pro middle linebacker for Joey Harrington. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 Rivers has not played in the NFL -to trade Vilma for totally unproven QB would be a huge mistake- this has to be one of those bathroom rumors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbn007 Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 Not going to happen. If anything, I think Abe or Ellis, but not Vilma. Look for the Jets to draft or sign a FA monster for the middle, to play on the D. Line next to D. Rob. Unless Pouha pans out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthCoastJetsFan Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 GUys You have to give up something to get something Granted, Vilma is a special player, but if we could secure a stud QB for the future, I think you have to do it Everyone said Accorsi was nuts to trade for Manning......how'd that turn out? Accorsi gave up only draft picks, which are a crap shoot anyway. I sure hope we don't give up Vilma for someone who's thrown 2 passes in the NFL. Keep Vilma, trade down if possible to get extra draft picks, build up both lines. You can't give away young, established players when you have so many holes to fill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fin Fan In Cali Posted November 30, 2005 Author Share Posted November 30, 2005 Question, what if you don't do the deal, and Rivers goes else where, and play good ball, and then Chad doesn't come back from injury, then you will be stuck with Jay as your starting quarterback? I don't know, but the Jets need to protect themselves, and think about the future as far as quarterbacks go. Just ask yourself how much do you think Chad will have left in him, after all those surgeries? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthCoastJetsFan Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 Question, what if you don't do the deal, and Rivers goes else where, and play good ball, and then Chad doesn't come back from injury, then you will be stuck with Jay as your starting quarterback? I don't know, but the Jets need to protect themselves, and think about the future as far as quarterbacks go. Just ask yourself how much do you think Chad will have left in him, after all those surgeries? Who cares what Rivers does elsewhere? If we have no lines, it doesn't matter who is back there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 Question, what if you don't do the deal, and Rivers goes else where, and play good ball, and then Chad doesn't come back from injury, then you will be stuck with Jay as your starting quarterback? I don't know, but the Jets need to protect themselves, and think about the future as far as quarterbacks go. Just ask yourself how much do you think Chad will have left in him, after all those surgeries? Who says Phillip Rivers HAS to be our quarterback? You make it sound as if the Jets either have the option of getting Rivers or sticking with Chad and/or Fiedler with no other alternatives. If the Jets want an unproven quarterback, then they can draft one. There is absolutely no reason to send Vilma packing for someone that has played half a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 I believe Feidler signed a 1 year deal. Either way - no I do not think he will be on the roster next year. I think it will be chad, bollinger and a veteran. Chad??????????????? Starting??????? Damn, you people never learn... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasonJet Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 LOL. I don't think the Jets are going to give up a proven great player like Vilma for a guy with like 9 career completions or whatever it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green DNA Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 Vilma will not be traded. The team envisions him as a potential Ray Lewis type LB for the next ten years (assuming they get a wide body to put next to D-Rob). To trade him would be idiotic, especially for a guy who has done nada, nunca, un gats in his NFL career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 Vilma will not be traded. The team envisions him as a potential Ray Lewis type LB for the next ten years (assuming they get a wide body to put next to D-Rob). To trade him would be idiotic, especially for a guy who has done nada, nunca, un gats in his NFL career. we are talkin about the architects of the Jolley trade here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 If Badway does the following i am thru with this team until this whole FO gets burned at the stake. 1) trade vilma for rivers 2) has a chance to draft Bush and trades down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green DNA Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 we are talkin about the architects of the Jolley trade here. Good point, pass the Excedrin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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