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Woody Johnson: You Need To Fire The Whole Offensive Coaching Staff


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#1 SoFlaJets

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Posted 24 December 2011 - 05:28 PM

and let your new OC bring in his own people. I'm talking Eller, Cavanaugh. Callahan, as well as Schottenheimer...and Mike Tannenbaum if he has another off season like the last two should also be on a short leash.
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#2 dbatesman

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Posted 24 December 2011 - 05:29 PM

And the fans, for not being nice enough!
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Posted 24 December 2011 - 05:29 PM

and let your new OC bring in his own people. I'm talking Eller, Cavanaugh. Callahan, as well as Schottenheimer...and Mike Tannenbaum if he has another off season like the last two should also be on a short leash.


Can we fire the QB?
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Posted 24 December 2011 - 05:31 PM

Can we fire the QB?

he should at least have competition JonE...I forsee the Jets making big splashes as soon as is possible. It will start with Schottenheimer getting the axe after we lose to Miami next week. He'll get the Mangini 3 O'clock in the morning treatment.
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Posted 24 December 2011 - 05:42 PM

I think you will see the Jets bring in a capable backup next season. The regression of Sanchez is complete.

I wonder if anybody who was at the game today can tell me if the receivers are getting open. Watching the game on TV you just can't see if the receivers are getting open and Sanchez just isn't throwing to them, settling for the underneath stuff instead.

Schotty is toast, and if he isn't there better be a damn good explanation why he is still here.

The OL all around regressed this year. D-Brick and Mangold included.

I get the feeling there will be ALOT of changes in 2012.
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Posted 24 December 2011 - 05:45 PM

I think you will see the Jets bring in a capable backup next season. The regression of Sanchez is complete.

I wonder if anybody who was at the game today can tell me if the receivers are getting open. Watching the game on TV you just can't see if the receivers are getting open and Sanchez just isn't throwing to them, settling for the underneath stuff instead.

Schotty is toast, and if he isn't there better be a damn good explanation why he is still here.

The OL all around regressed this year. D-Brick and Mangold included.

I get the feeling there will be ALOT of changes in 2012.

there effin' better be Shawn...Jets fans aren't as patient
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Posted 24 December 2011 - 05:48 PM

there effin' better be Shawn...Jets fans aren't as patient


Here here.
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Posted 24 December 2011 - 06:15 PM

Schotty has to go. If Rex wants him back then Rex has to go. We need someone who will open it up. In this league, you need to score points.
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Posted 24 December 2011 - 06:31 PM

Schotty has to go. If Rex wants him back then Rex has to go. We need someone who will open it up. In this league, you need to score points.

Rex has become too concerned with citing stats after every game-win or lose. The only three stats that actaully matter in the NFL are points scored, points given up and wins
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Posted 24 December 2011 - 06:51 PM

Schotty has to go. If Rex wants him back then Rex has to go. We need someone who will open it up. In this league, you need to score points.


I want someone who can open it up while sticking to Groundz and Poundz. They need to blend the two to build the offense, and the team needs a good OC for the passing game.

As dbatesman hinted at, and CTM correctly guessed, you need an above average OC to play ball in this league. Right now, we don't even have average. That must change.
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Posted 24 December 2011 - 06:53 PM

Oh wrong thread with that whole dbates/CTM thing.
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Posted 24 December 2011 - 07:02 PM

I want someone who can open it up while sticking to Groundz and Poundz. They need to blend the two to build the offense, and the team needs a good OC for the passing game.

As dbatesman hinted at, and CTM correctly guessed, you need an above average OC to play ball in this league. Right now, we don't even have average. That must change.


The top notch teams, gb, ne, no, pit, etc all pass to win. F ground and pound
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Posted 24 December 2011 - 08:33 PM

Schotty has to go. If Rex wants him back then Rex has to go. We need someone who will open it up. In this league, you need to score points.


I don't mind the system. I do mind the ******* playcalling.
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Posted 24 December 2011 - 09:02 PM

I don't mind the system. I do mind the ******* playcalling.


Explosive plays are required in this league. The good teams can score from all parts of the field.

Look at today. We outplayed the giants in the first half yet they were winning. It took 1 play.
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Posted 24 December 2011 - 09:12 PM

Schotty has to go. If Rex wants him back then Rex has to go. We need someone who will open it up. In this league, you need to score points.


It was "opened up" plenty today. Our best games on offense were when we hid the QB as much as possible. Fire Schotty... Fine. The NFL is a QB league and that's where it all begins.
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Posted 24 December 2011 - 09:33 PM

It's easy to blame Schott (and I usually do) but it wasn't Schott who missed wide open wr's, threw the ball late to open wr's, didn't pass protect, jumped offsides, and fumbled.

Schott owns it and he has to go because of the debacle but the players are very overrated and Sanchez was a real pile of sh*t.
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Posted 24 December 2011 - 09:34 PM

It was "opened up" plenty today. Our best games on offense were when we hid the QB as much as possible. Fire Schotty... Fine. The NFL is a QB league and that's where it all begins.

50 underneath passes is not opening up, sorry.
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Posted 24 December 2011 - 09:39 PM

50 underneath passes is not opening up, sorry.


You really want them to throw the ball around anymore then they did? Sanchez can't handle it, plain and simple. He hit plenty of DBs in the hands with what you're calling "50 underneath passes". We're better off in the wildcat.
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Posted 24 December 2011 - 09:42 PM

Schotty's is gone if we miss playoffs, right or wrong he'll be fed to the fans to cover sanchez
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Posted 24 December 2011 - 09:43 PM

Schotty's is gone if we miss playoffs, right or wrong he'll be fed to the fans to cover sanchez


Can't wait to see who the next guy to hold Sanchez back is!?!?!?!
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Posted 24 December 2011 - 09:44 PM

You really want them to throw the ball around anymore then they did? Sanchez can't handle it, plain and simple. He hit plenty of DBs in the hands with what you're calling "50 underneath passes". We're better off in the wildcat.


I want then to get an offense that can strike. We have the offensive weapons. I have no way of knowing Sanchez can handle it because we never call it. I'd rather lose being aggressive.

I'm talking about the future. To be an elite team, you need an offense that is capable of a big play occasionally. If Sanchez can't do it find someone who can. I'm confident the OC is not capable.

Sanchez throws a decent ball when given time. He has his flaws too but I think a lot of it is because they have a governor on him and they make him think too much. However, I'm not sold on Sanchez either.
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Posted 24 December 2011 - 09:47 PM

I want then to get an offense that can strike. We have the offensive weapons. I have no way of knowing Sanchez can handle it because we never call it. I'd rather lose being aggressive.

I'm talking about the future. To be an elite team, you need an offense that is capable of a big play occasionally. If Sanchez can't do it find someone who can. I'm confident the OC is not capable.

Sanchez throws a decent ball when given time. He has his flaws too but I think a lot of it is because they have a governor on him and they make him think too much. However, I'm not sold on Sanchez either.


I 100% agree with you on the offensive philosophy. I just see no reason to believe Sanchez can handle more. He really just doesn't do anything especially well. He's ok at a few things, but he's inaccurate, lacks poise, is horrendous under any pressure, and seems to have almost 0 grasp of the game at times.
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Posted 24 December 2011 - 09:47 PM

I wonder what the odds are that Woody Johnson is actually scanning JN to get advise on what to do about the team?

Personally I think it's more then 2-1 against
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Posted 24 December 2011 - 10:02 PM

I 100% agree with you on the offensive philosophy. I just see no reason to believe Sanchez can handle more. He really just doesn't do anything especially well. He's ok at a few things, but he's inaccurate, lacks poise, is horrendous under any pressure, and seems to have almost 0 grasp of the game at times.


You are probably right.

However, to me it looks like analysis paralysis with Sanchez. Looks like they are confusing him. Make it simple see what happens. If it doesn't work then move on.
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Posted 24 December 2011 - 11:31 PM

Sanchez = Not NFL ready. As long as he is the QB of this team, the Jets will NEVER win the SB.


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