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[RutgersJetFan]

No way. Sanchez is the one who "deserves" a year or two without the Jets coaches. Are you blind to his untapped greatness or something?

It's all that Shonn Greene's fault. Everybody knows that.

[Sperm Edwards]

It's all that Shonn Greene's fault. Everybody knows that.

I've only been a Jets fan since the Carter administration and was abusively dressed in Jets gear since Nixon. I owe my undying loyalty to a 25 year-old bundle of nerves who can't throw a football exactly where he wants it to go.

[stoicsentry]

Guys the reality is this....2008 we already were a playoff team.


Rex is NOT a good HC just because he says so.

WTH? We didn't make the playoffs in 2008, we went from a hall of fame QB to a rookie with 1 year of experience in college, and implemented a whole new defensive system. Yet, STILL we had much more success in 2009 than 2008.

Edited by stoicsentry, 28 December 2011 - 10:39 AM.

[Jet27]

I've only been a Jets fan since the Carter administration and was abusively dressed in Jets gear since Nixon. I owe my undying loyalty to a 25 year-old bundle of nerves who can't throw a football exactly where he wants it to go.

Nixon predates carter....so shouldn't you have said "I have been a Jets fan since Nixon and abusively dressed in Jets gear since Carter?...Just saying or are you trying to rewrite history?

[stoicsentry]

I got news for you guys. Every team in the NFL knew that lockout was looming years in advance. There was no reason at all to believe any different. I guess the better GM's in the league prepared for it and the Jets were in terrible shape with so many players up for contracts. At some point you would think (even a few years in advance ) that Tanny would have noticed all the players that were due for FA that year and made some pre emptive moves or extentions. Sorry but every team in the league was under the same pressure. Even when we all saw the disaster that was our O-line in pre season and Turner got hurt I remember the Ravens signing 2 FA lineman soon after. Did we even make a play for those guys I cant remember the names but I think they were cap casualties and one had been to a pro bowl.

The arguement about the skill players aside the Jets failed miserably in one of the most important areas on the football field the O-Line and when you have a young Qb who is learning why put him under the constant pressure he had to deal with early in the season ? It obviously had an effect and still does because at times this line has been so bad I think the kid is completely shell shocked if you cant trust your line as a QB you start to see the bad Habits you all rip Sanchez for.

Has nothing to do with the lockout.... has everything to do with the fact that some years, you are going to have more $$$ to spend than others. This happened to be the first season in a very long time where we did not have much room for the cap. That hasn't happened in years. Every other year where we have had cap room to spare, Tanny has made brilliant moves. He'll do it again if he has some room next year.

[Jet27]

WTH? We didn't make the playoffs in 2008, we went from a hall of fame QB to a rookie with 1 year of experience in college, and implemented a whole new defensive system. Yet, STILL we had much more success in 2009 than 2008.

What I was trying to say was if Favre did not get hurt we were going to the playoffs and would have competed deep into them....2008 we beat argueably the two best teams in the AFC in back to back weeks..Tenn and then the Pats..remember.

[stoicsentry]

What I was trying to say was if Favre did not get hurt we were going to the playoffs and would have competed deep into them....2008 we beat argueably the two best teams in the AFC in back to back weeks..Tenn and then the Pats..remember.

Yes... true...

...with a hall of fame QB.

[The Crusher]

He gets 2 more seasons until the whole split head coaching thing officially runs its course. At the very least he deserves a full year without Sanchez.

Me thinks we all deserve a year without Sanchez. Let him go stay at Smashs house.

[Jet27]

Yes... true...

...with a hall of fame QB.

Yes exactly.........

[Sperm Edwards]

Nixon predates carter....so shouldn't you have said "I have been a Jets fan since Nixon and abusively dressed in Jets gear since Carter?...Just saying or are you trying to rewrite history?

I was dressed in Jets baby/kids gear during Nixon. I became aware of the Jets being a football team during Carter. What are you talking about?

[Jet27]

I was dressed in Jets baby/kids gear during Nixon. I became aware of the Jets being a football team during Carter. What are you talking about?

Got it....Sorry my bad!

[Freemanm]

I've only been a Jets fan since the Carter administration and was abusively dressed in Jets gear since Nixon. I owe my undying loyalty to a 25 year-old bundle of nerves who can't throw a football exactly where he wants it to go.

Ha ha! I blame my Jets loyalty on Wesley Walker, who made a brilliant over the shoulder catch on a 45 TD bomb from Richard Todd late in the 4th quarter in the div. round against the Raiders in 1982. the catch set up a last minute 17-14 win and got us in to the mud bowl. If I only knew then, at nine years old, what I know now...

[SMC]

He gets 2 more seasons until the whole split head coaching thing officially runs its course. At the very least he deserves a full year without Sanchez.

Rex doesn't deserve sh*t until he decides to actually be the HC rather than a glorified DC. If he fails to be a real HC next year he should be on the hot seat.

[dbatesman]

He gets 2 more seasons until the whole split head coaching thing officially runs its course. At the very least he deserves a full year without Sanchez.

Kinda-stupid-but-legitimately-serious question: do we overstate the split HC thing? Seems to me it works just fine for McCarthy and Payton.

[JiF]

Kinda-stupid-but-legitimately-serious question: do we overstate the split HC thing? Seems to me it works just fine for McCarthy and Payton.

Of course we do. Its retarded. I really cant think of too many examples of successful HC's that have complete control of both sides of the ball. Where are they going to find enough time in the day to do it? There is a reason why you have DC's and OC's and they often go on to find HC'ing jobs.

Couple of examples: What has BB won since Wiess and Crenell left the team? What does Mike Tomlin know about offense? He never played it, never coached it. Further, what is he going to tell Dick LeBeau about coaching the 3-4? I could go on.

[SMC]

Kinda-stupid-but-legitimately-serious question: do we overstate the split HC thing? Seems to me it works just fine for McCarthy and Payton.

That was only after Payton fired his DC because the D sucked and hired Greg Williams.

[RutgersJetFan]

Kinda-stupid-but-legitimately-serious question: do we overstate the split HC thing? Seems to me it works just fine for McCarthy and Payton.

Probably. You can hear it in the post game press conferences with him though, even at the end of his 3rd year he speaks as if he had no clue what the offensive gameplan was prior to kickoff. Can't say the same for anyone else in the league. Can't say I've ever seen it with any coach really.

[RutgersJetFan]

Rex doesn't deserve sh*t until he decides to actually be the HC rather than a glorified DC. If he fails to be a real HC next year he should be on the hot seat.

The thing is that coaches get judged on wins and losses. The fact that he's had so much success in his first 3 seasons with a QB this bad is pretty inpressive. That has to earn a guy some benefit of a doubt. The personnel was mismanaged so poorly this year that it's hard to put all of it on him. But the offense is by far the largest problem and that's where he has the least amount of impact. It makes you wonder just how much he's even able to help fix any of it.

[SMC]

Probably. You can hear it in the post game press conferences with him though, even at the end of his 3rd year he speaks as if he had no clue what the offensive gameplan was prior to kickoff. Can't say the same for anyone else in the league. Can't say I've ever seen it with any coach really.

EXACTLY. The post game presser was the kicker. And he LIED about the game too in giving an excuse. He said that throwing so much was because they were down big, but it was a close game until the 4th. Sanchez had already thrown it 28 times in the 1st half in a 7-10 game.

Rex had no idea what the offensive gameplan was, did nothing while Schitty called the game right in front of him (the offensive playcalls go through Rex's headset) and then proceeded to throw Schitty under the bus after the game.

Rex went to 2 straight AFFCG because Schitty and Westhoff didn't embarrass themselves. Now that both units have taken a step back, Rex is completely clueless.

[SMC]

The thing is that coaches get judged on wins and losses. The fact that he's had so much success in his first 3 seasons with a QB this bad is pretty inpressive. That has to earn a guy some benefit of a doubt. The personnel was mismanaged so poorly this year that it's hard to put all of it on him. But the offense is by far the largest problem and that's where he has the least amount of impact. It makes you wonder just how much he's even able to help fix any of it.

I agree with that because of his success, but the Ronald Reagan act is killing the team. This is Rex's Iran Contra scandal.

Rex needs to know what the heck is going on in all facets and have ultimate authority over it.

Rex earns the benefit of the doubt as a DC, but we can't give it to him as a HC until he demonstrates that he is actually going to be the HC.

Edited by SMC, 28 December 2011 - 12:24 PM.