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[SoFlaJets]

Wayne hunter of the Jets RT@ProFootbalFocus Has allowed his QB to hit the turf more than any other OT (22 sacks+knockdowns), 28 pressures

[SoFlaJets]

Sanchez was hit 68 times this year-tha's not even counting the probably dozen or more cheap shots he took after the ball was away-you know the ones that never get called unless the QB's name is Brady or Peyton

[TNJet]

Hunter puzzles me, he played better than Woody last season, yet only slightly better than Ducasse this year.

[flgreen]

We all know how bad Hunter is.

The real question is How bad is Vlad? As bad as Hunter has looked, Vlad didn't get a look at RT.

Ouch

Edited by flgreen, 27 December 2011 - 07:19 PM.

[Smashmouth]

Hunter is scary bad and Ducasse may be worse. We are going to be facing some serious issues this offseason and Im not too confident we make the right choices given the ones we've made the past 2 years.

[TNJet]

Hunter is scary bad and Ducasse may be worse. We are going to be facing some serious issues this offseason and Im not too confident we make the right choices given the ones we've made the past 2 years.

Vlad's ceiling is at guard without a doubt. He is a good run blocker but a horrid pass blocker. That keeps him from being a viable Tackle because of his slow foot speed. I think in time he could become a Slauson level guard, no more no less.

[Smashmouth]

Vlad's ceiling is at guard without a doubt. He is a good run blocker but a horrid pass blocker. That keeps him from being a viable Tackle because of his slow foot speed. I think in time he could become a Slauson level guard, no more no less.

TN im not sure how you can call Ducasse good at anything in his limited time playing he has been a total train wreck so how do we even know if hes a good run blocker ?

[T0mShane]

Hunter's suckness might be a bit overstated. Honestly, if Anthony Muñoz was playing RT for the Jets, would Sanchez be a better QB? Would Schotty be a better OC?

[TNJet]

TN im not sure how you can call Ducasse good at anything in his limited time playing he has been a total train wreck so how do we even know if hes a good run blocker ?

Because this season I have actually seen him over power a few guys for Greene's long runs. Maybe he only did it 5 or 6 times, but he has done it.

[bitonti]

Hunter's suckness might be a bit overstated. Honestly, if Anthony Muñoz was playing RT for the Jets, would Sanchez be a better QB? Would Schotty be a better OC?

Sanchez holds the ball and takes sacks more than the average NFL QB. Wayne Hunter looks especially bad in the matchups against Babin and Ware but those are tough assignments for every right tackle.

let me be perfectly clear I agree generally that Hunter sucks. I just wonder how much of a difference it makes, in the grand scheme of things.

Edited by bitonti, 27 December 2011 - 09:10 PM.

[SenorGato]

QB play is a huge factor in pass protection. It doesn't exonerate Hunter's general mediocrity, but Sanchez suckage hurts everyone.

[Matt39]

Our scouting department really did a nice job on that Ducasse pick

The Jets have to be a top 5 worst drafting team over the past 10 years.

Edited by Matt39, 27 December 2011 - 09:24 PM.

[Thai Jet]

Our scouting department really did a nice job on that Ducasse pick

The Jets have to be a top 5 worst drafting team over the past 10 years.

No argument here. I still don't believe we moved up to get Sanchez.

[SayNoToDMC]

Hunter's suckness might be a bit overstated. Honestly, if Anthony Muñoz was playing RT for the Jets, would Sanchez be a better QB? Would Schotty be a better OC?

In the steaming pile of sh*t that is the Jets offense he stands out like the turd I drop every year after ST Paddys day. He sucks

[SMC]

Its just sad. Hunter is the worst T in the NFL, but that is Sanchez's fault. Jets were 5th in passes over 40 yds last year, get rid of Braylon, have no WR speed, and are now last in that category, but itall Sanchez's fault because he sucks.

So, Tom, you ask if Sanchez would be better with a decent RT, the answer is yes. Good pass blocking helps any QB, even the worst QB in NFL like Sanchez

[SoFlaJets]

Vlad's ceiling is at guard without a doubt. He is a good run blocker but a horrid pass blocker. That keeps him from being a viable Tackle because of his slow foot speed. I think in time he could become a Slauson level guard, no more no less.

Ducasse HAS no ceiling TN...he has no awareness out there-I swear it's almost like he's blind or something. Last week or the week before Klecko and Lucas were talking about him on Post Game Live and they charted the plays he was in on-in the 4 or 5 plays that they put him in, he didn't even touch anyone-he's THAT bad. The worst instincts of any offensive lineman I have ever seen in over 4 decades of watching the NFL-and the Jets have had some stinkers

[Matt39]

Ducasse HAS no ceiling TN...he has no awareness out there-I swear it's almost like he's blind or something. Last week or the week before Klecko and Lucas were talking about him on Post Game Live and they charted the plays he was in on-in the 4 or 5 plays that they put him in, he didn't even touch anyone-he's THAT bad. The worst instincts of any offensive lineman I have ever seen in over 4 decades of watching the NFL-and the Jets have had some stinkers

Between him and Gholston, I mean...just absolute cant happens within 3 years.

[RutgersJetFan]

Hunter's suckness might be a bit overstated. Honestly, if Anthony Muñoz was playing RT for the Jets, would Sanchez be a better QB? Would Schotty be a better OC?

This. For some bizarre reason the notion that Sanchez had the best line in the league for two seasons and yet this season was statistically his best year gets completely ignored. Hunter sucks but no line in the league can be consistent on the sacks end when the QB is holding onto the ball for 4+ seconds regularly, or stepping straight into the line of fire rather than side-stepping anything. Wayne Hunter wasn't the one double clutching on a jailbreak against Baltimore.

Edited by RutgersJetFan, 28 December 2011 - 08:47 AM.

[SoFlaJets]

Between him and Gholston, I mean...just absolute cant happens within 3 years.

and the thing about drafting busts like that is that it takes years to overcome. I think we have finally gotten over the Gholston disaster by us getting lucky and getting Maybin. Now the Ducasse disaster has yet to be addressed. What kills me I swear is the Jets' front office refusing to call a spade a spade, or in this case a bust a bust and stubbornly insisting on keeping underachieving high draft picks around and NOT cutting them like Belichick has done countless times. We keep guys like Gholston, Clemens, and now Ducasse around insisting that with the proper coaching and with enough time spent on these stiffs that all will eventually be well and good. It also sucks that they are kept around and serve as a reminder to everyone that there was a failure in the ranks and keeping them around is keeping failure around and pissing off REAL talented and underpaid players. A guy like Mikey DeVito and Matt Slauson are getting a lot less $$ than what Ducasse is getting for his 4 crappy plays a game

[CTM]

This. For some bizarre reason the notion that Sanchez had the best line in the league for two seasons and yet this season was statistically his best year gets completely ignored. Hunter sucks but no line in the league can be consistent on the sacks end when the QB is holding onto the ball for 4+ seconds regularly, or stepping straight into the line of fire rather than side-stepping anything. Wayne Hunter wasn't the one double clutching on a jailbreak against Baltimore.

Wait, so you mean that Wayne Hunter wouldn't turn Aaron Rodgers into a jag???