MTJ06 Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 ESPN's Adam Schefter reports the NFL is taking away millions in salary-cap space from the Cowboys and Redskins for illegal front-loading of deals during the 2010 uncapped year. The Cowboys will lose $10 million compared to the Redskins' whopping $36 million hit. Dallas was reportedly $4.7 million under the $120.6 million cap while Washington was in better shape at $31.3 million under. The franchises have the option of splitting the damage over 2012 and 2013, but it's still going to have a deleterious effect on the Cowboys' speculated interest in major free agents such as LG Carl Nicks, DE/OLB Mario Williams, and CB Cortland Finnegan and the Redskins' pursuit of Vincent Jackson. Related: Redskins Source: Adam Schefter on Twitter http://www.rotoworld.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTJ06 Posted March 12, 2012 Author Share Posted March 12, 2012 Adam Schefter@AdamSchefter NFL is taking away millions of dolllar of salary-cap space from Cowboys and Redskins for how they front-loaded deals during uncapped year. https://twitter.com/#!/AdamSchefter/statuses/179279542773489664 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redman81 Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Damn, feel sorry for RGIII for having to go to that mess in Wash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 WOW that is a major kick in the arse. 36 million. Ouch. Guess the NFCE is between the giants and Eagles for the next few years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTJ06 Posted March 12, 2012 Author Share Posted March 12, 2012 Damn, feel sorry for RGIII for having to go to that mess in Wash. Yeah so much for the draft RG3 and sign some big name free agents WRs plan.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJ667 Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJ667 Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Here's a kicker, now each team, except the Saints and Raiders will receive an extra $1.6 million in cap space because the money is diverted to the other teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 You would have to wonder if the redskins would make that trade, if they knew this was coming down-although, you would have to guess they knew this was coming (?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanBe_Tweetin Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Here's a kicker, now each team, except the Saints and Raiders will receive an extra $1.6 million in cap space because the money is diverted to the other teams. Thats sick poor RG3. They'll probably sweep the Giants in the regular season again anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 That's a paddlin'! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetNation Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 According to a report by Adam Schefter of ESPN the NFL has stripped the Dallas Cowboys of $10 million and Washington Redskins of $36 million in salary cap space for violations during the uncapped year 2010. This decrease will create a wind fall for most NFL teams, including the Jets, increasing their salary cap space by $1.6 million: Schefter reports that the Cowboys will lose more than $10 million — and that the Redskins will lose $36 million. The money will be reallocated to the other teams, with every franchise except the Saints and Raiders picking up $1.6 million in extra cap space. With this increase along with the Sanchez and Ferguson contract restructurings the Jets now have $15 million in salary cap space. Aaron Maybin’s tender amount is included in this figure. For additional information on this increase check out the View the full article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Well, Washington won't be spending money on 1st rounders for a while...that should help a little Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villain_the_foe Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 WOW that is a major kick in the arse. 36 million. Ouch. Guess the NFCE is between the giants and Eagles for the next few years Yeah, thats more than what the Pats/Belicheat was fined when they cheated their way to SB victories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 thankg god our accountant can work a spreadsheet..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 thankg god our accountant can work a spreadsheet..... Yaaaaaaay!!!! This is when having a tannenbaum really seems like a positive. I'll take the 1.6 in additional space. It will help us get Eric Winston at RT!!! YEEEEE HAAAAAW!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Redskins lost $36 million? THIRTY-SIX MIL in cap space. WOW, talk about disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Redskins lost $36 million? THIRTY-SIX MIL in cap space. WOW, talk about disaster. Right? What was it for exactly. I just looked for a min but didn't see a specific. Is it for going over the cap? That's gooonna HURT!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Wait...here it is... Q&A on the Cowboys-Redskins cap mess March, 12, 2012 Mar 12 4:51 PM ET Email Print Comments1K By Dan Graziano You guys want some answers on this deal where the Dallas Cowboys and Washington Redskins are losing millions in cap space for spending as much as they wanted in an uncapped year. I'm here for you. I have spoken to a couple of sources close to the situation, and this is what I have learned: Q: What exactly did they do? A: During the uncapped 2010 season, teams were repeatedly warned by the league not to structure contracts so that big money was assigned to 2010 in order to attain future-years cap relief. They were told there would be penalties if they did this. The Cowboys and the Redskins, to a greater extent than the league's other 30 teams, ignored these warnings and engaged in such behavior anyway. Miles Austin's contract with the Cowboys, which included a $17 million base salary in 2010, is being brought up as the prime example. Q: How did they get caught? A: The complaints against the Cowboys and the Redskins for engaging in perfectly legal behavior that violated no actual rules but only the collusive backroom dictates being issued by the league came not from the league office but from the other 30 teams, who were doing what they were told while the Cowboys and the Redskins were not. The other teams demanded action, since they were the good soldiers, and so the league decided it needed to take some. Q: Why isn't the union challenging this? A: While this behavior seems to fit the very dictionary definition of collusion, as multiple teams were engaged in discussions to limit the earning potential of their employees and prospective employees, do not expect it to be challenged in court. The decision today, in which the Redskins were docked $36 million in cap space and the Cowboys $10 million, is the result of a settlement between the NFL and the NFLPA. One reason the union has no problem with it is that the money lost to the Cowboys and Redskins is not taken out of the overall 2012 spending pool — each of 28 other teams gets $1.6 million extra in cap room, so there's no net loss league-wide. Another reason the union won't push on it is because they agreed, as part of the settlement of last year's Brady vs. NFL federal lawsuit, to drop all pending legal action against the league. That included their claims that the league engaged in collusion in 2010. Q: Why is this happening now, the day before free agency? A: The answer to that lies in the reason it took so long for the league to establish and announce this year's salary cap. The union must sign off on the cap before it is approved, and it obviously took issue initially with the idea of punishing teams for spending money in an uncapped year. But the league was toying with the idea of lowering this year's salary cap, and used this issue as a bargaining chip with the union. Basically, if the union agreed to the punishment for the Redskins and Cowboys, the cap would be $120.6 million, as it is now. But if they refused, the league was prepared to make the cap lower. I don't know by how much, but say for the sake of argument they wanted to drop it to $116 million per team. That'd have been a total of $128 million when spread across 32 teams — a significant loss to the players if they agreed to it. More to come on this, of course, but that should help answer some of your questions for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Yaaaaaaay!!!! This is when having a tannenbaum really seems like a positive. I'll take the 1.6 in additional space. It will help us get Eric Winston at RT!!! YEEEEE HAAAAAW!!! Been praying for that ever since I saw he was surprisingly released by the Texans. Would be a phenomenal pickup. Haven't sen Levi Brown play extensively since he was drafted and I know he was very poor as a LT, but i wonder how he'd fair switching to the right side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Been praying for that ever since I saw he was surprisingly released by the Texans. Would be a phenomenal pickup. Haven't sen Levi Brown play extensively since he was drafted and I know he was very poor as a LT, but i wonder how he'd fair switching to the right side. The switch would be the question, but either one of these cats would be an upgrade. I would prefer Winston due to him being a true RT. The fact that there are all of the sudden some quality O linemen being released is a good thing for us IMO. I would like to see some moves for both RT starter and some good depth. I also hope Turner is back to being truly healthy as well. Love that mean bastard! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoping4ASuperBowl Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 How much money is needed to sign draft picks generally? Will the Redskins have to pay RG3 more because they traded up for him or does the new rookie wage scale cancel that out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 The switch would be the question, but either one of these cats would be an upgrade. I would prefer Winston due to him being a true RT. The fact that there are all of the sudden some quality O linemen being released is a good thing for us IMO. I would like to see some moves for both RT starter and some good depth. I also hope Turner is back to being truly healthy as well. Love that mean bastard! I think signing a talent like Winston as a starter would be not only an amazing addition, but increase our depth as hunter or whomever would be a quality viable backup. A trickle down effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Skins are so screwed. No picks and no money to sign receivers for RGIII. I guess they have to go with Moss and Gafney. Ouch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Damn, feel sorry for RGIII for having to go to that mess in Wash. RG3 is gonna have an easier time than Andrew Luck. the Colts are going to be God-awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoping4ASuperBowl Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 RG3 is gonna have an easier time than Andrew Luck. the Colts are going to be God-awful. True. At least the Redskins have a defense. What do the Colts have right now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Winston would be a perfect acquisition. I am loving this turn of events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LottsMissingFingerTip Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Come to Papa, Laron Landry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 True. At least the Redskins have a defense. What do the Colts have right now? They have the Chuck Pagano pipeline for Baltimore players. That means, potentially, Corey redding, jarrett Johnson, jameel McLain, hakamura and tbizowski. That's 5 players right there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoping4ASuperBowl Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 They have the Chuck Pagano pipeline for Baltimore players. That means, potentially, Corey redding, jarrett Johnson, jameel McLain, hakamura and tbizowski. That's 5 players right there I do think Rex is going to go after some of them too. That said, the Colts don't have an offense or defense established right now and might be without Garcon this upcoming season. So again I say, the Redskins at least have an established defense for RG3 to fall back on like Sanchez with Rex's defense the first two years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rillo Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Damn, feel sorry for RGIII for having to go to that mess in Wash. Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 awesome, both those franchises suck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darrellegivesmeaboner#24 Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Come to Papa, Laron Landry. This. Imagine we can sign Landry on a non-cap breaking contract? We would still have the cap space to go and potentially sign a RT like Winston, and we can attack the draft with the ability to supplement positions instead of drafting immediate starters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 According to a report by Adam Schefter of ESPN the NFL has stripped the Dallas Cowboys of $10 million and Washington Redskins of $36 million in salary cap space for violations during the uncapped year 2010. This decrease will create a wind fall for most NFL teams, including the Jets, increasing their salary cap space by $1.6 million: Schefter reports that the Cowboys will lose more than $10 million — and that the Redskins will lose $36 million. The money will be reallocated to the other teams, with every franchise except the Saints and Raiders picking up $1.6 million in extra cap space. With this increase along with the Sanchez and Ferguson contract restructurings the Jets now have $15 million in salary cap space. Aaron Maybin’s tender amount is included in this figure. For additional information on this increase check out the What did the Saints and Raiders do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 What did the Saints and Raiders do? They did the same thing as Dallas and Washington but not quite as egregiously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason423 Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 What did the Saints and Raiders do? All of them were teams that the league seemed to feel went above and beyond the spirit of the rules by finding loopholes. For the Saints it seemed to be due to being the team to find the completion bonus possibility of skirting the 30% rules while the Raiders dealt with renegotiating contracts to allow for dumping in the uncapped year. All I know is the union really got screwed over and every one of those players should be dumping D. Smith as soon as they get their chance next month. Its an awful deal for the players. To agree to allow the league to strip two of the biggest paying franchises of 46 million in cap room and reshuffle that money to teams who will never spend it is crazy. The NFL did not punish any low spending team such as San Francisco, Kansas City, or Tampa that were using loopholes to meet salary cap floors which were just as egregious as the Skins and Cowboys making the moves they did. Technically both put the rest of the league at a competitive imbalance but because those teams dont spend a dime it doesnt matter that they carry 60 million in cap space. Nobody is going to cry for players who make so much salary to play football nor should they, but they got railroaded. The cap is basically retreating, rookies might be paid less this year than last, the franchise tag fell apart as a way to protect players interests, and veterans are even less protected now than they were in the past since the low cap makes it hard to keep them on a team. The owners really stuck it to the union and the worst part about it is that their leadership doesnt even seem to know it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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