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[rkw522]

Here is an indepth article about the pros and cons of each man and if the Jets made the right decision by hiring Sparano. Hope you enjoy.
http://www.nyjetsove...-new-start.html

[Larz]

jets fans have never, and will never, like the OC

first fire sparano thread will be about week 3

[rkw522]

I hear you on that because I fall into that category. I just hope all this positive talk about Sparano carries over into the season. At least until week 5...

[Jetscode1]

Nice read...agree with your points on Sparano...exactly what the Jets needed at this point in time...

[Smashmouth]

jets fans have never, and will never, like the OC

first fire sparano thread will be about week 3

Any fan that gets on Sparano in week three is an Idiot. This team has to learn a new offense, work in some new players, and fix O-Line issues, this does not happen overnight. Sometimes you get lucky and things fall into place fast, and that would be great, but the real judging will come as we get closer to mid season. The only way for coaches to evaluate whats going on is when the real games start, adjustments are made, and the team moves forward.

[Lupz27]

Any fan that gets on Sparano in week three is an Idiot. This team has to learn a new offense, work in some new players, and fix O-Line issues, this does not happen overnight. Sometimes you get lucky and things fall into place fast, and that would be great, but the real judging will come as we get closer to mid season. The only way for coaches to evaluate whats going on is when the real games start, adjustments are made, and the team moves forward.

I hated the Sparano hiring, but not because of the coach he is, but because I believed the Jets should have gone after someone who ran a Kubiak style offense like Mark thrived in at USC, but that's over and done with, and I definitely like Sparano as strictly the offensive coach, the offense he installs I'm still skeptical it can win a SB in today's NFL, but it seams, and is no surprise that the Jet offensive players RESPECT Sparano, and I don't believe that was not the case with Schotty, and between the lack of respect, and unnecessary, confusing, lack of direction, over analyzed, and one big piece of sh*t of a playbook, was a huge part of Mark, and the offensive problems not just last year, but the prior 2 years also. I think the older Sparano who takes no sh*t, and treats EVERYONE the same (yes you to Mr. Sanchez) will really progress Mark's maturity IMO, and hopefully that leads to a much better Mark Sanchez the QB.

Ah finally real football talk is back, and hopefully the circus from the Tebow signing is completely behind us here at Jetnation, and I can enjoy the site once again.

[Lupz27]

Double post sorry.

Edited by Lupz27, 25 May 2012 - 07:37 AM.

[Lupz27]

Triple post sorry, iPad acting whacky.

Edited by Lupz27, 25 May 2012 - 07:38 AM.

[slats]

I hated the Sparano hiring, but not because of the coach he is, but because I believed the Jets should have gone after someone who ran a Kubiak style offense like Mark thrived in at USC, but that's over and done with, and I definitely like Sparano as strictly the offensive coach, the offense he installs I'm still skeptical it can win a SB in today's NFL, but it seams, and is no surprise that the Jet offensive players RESPECT Sparano, and I don't believe that was not the case with Schotty, and between the lack of respect, and unnecessary, confusing, lack of direction, over analyzed, and one big piece of sh*t of a playbook, was a huge part of Mark, and the offensive problems not just last year, but the prior 2 years also. I think the older Sparano who takes no sh*t, and treats EVERYONE the same (yes you to Mr. Sanchez) will really progress Mark's maturity IMO, and hopefully that leads to a much better Mark Sanchez the QB.

Ah finally real football talk is back, and hopefully the circus from the Tebow signing is completely behind us here at Jetnation, and I can enjoy the site once again.

I agree 100%.

Not thrilled with this new ground and pound concept when the Jets really don't have a ground and pound line. Not thrilled with the wildcat playing an even larger role on offense. Prior to reading this article, I didn't realize how limited Sparano's play calling experience is, so that's another concern.

But his no nonsense style, and just win your matchup play book are both very welcome changes. Let the defense get fancy, the offense needs fundamentals and discipline right now more than anything else.

[THE ILK]

Is this based on Schottenheimer with out without Tom Moore?

[flgreen]

Triple post sorry, iPad acting whacky.

Your IPad is fine, it's the site. Every time I start a thread it tells me some squirrels made an error

[SenorGato]

The double posts are the site's fault.

Edited by SenorGato, 25 May 2012 - 05:26 PM.

[SenorGato]

Is this based on Schottenheimer with out without Tom Moore?

Well without Tom Moore you pretty much erase all the success Schittenheimer had here. Moore fixed the red zone issues last year, as we all know, finally allowing the Jets to have a pretty passing stat line somewhere on offense (which we also know is the Ultimate Goal).

Edited by SenorGato, 25 May 2012 - 05:27 PM.

[SenorGato]

I have no problem with Sporano. I do have a problem with the QBs (mostly Sanchez, the one who's been here, and the many before him), who have dragged the offenses down for years. They need to stop sucking that way the Jets can take the Next Step.

I also think the changes being made are over played, but I don't think anyone will agree with that. They've been a Groundz and Poundz team for the majority of Sanchez's career here. Last year, they tried to force the issue on him actually being a Big Boy QB, but the wee lass couldn't handle it. The injury hits on the interior OL did not help, nor did the two tackles putting up arguably their worst seasons as pros.

Now he's got two new OL coaches to solve the OL problem, a brand spanking new 6'4" 225 4.3 running WR, and the two really good pass catchers he's had for two+ years now (CONTINUITY!). Not only that, but his C should be healthy and good to go, Slauson will be healthy and good to go, D'Brick will still be amongst the best pass blockers in the leaue, and the right side of the OL has two veterans who usually haven't sucked during their career (with a 6'5 330 pound athletic monster possibly there to take a failure's place).

My difference between Schottenheimer and Sporano is that Sporano will be a better teacher. I think Schottenheimer was a "we're all pros here...do *this*" kind of coach, and that made babies cry. I think Sporano being an older, not vying to be a HC ever again coach will be more hands on with the young players. I also think they'll try passing more than anyone wants to admit, and the offense will be like 2010s with a (hopefully) more mature (and therefore productive?) QB.

Edited by SenorGato, 25 May 2012 - 05:50 PM.

[KINGDIRK]

Well without Tom Moore you pretty much erase all the success Schittenheimer had here. Moore fixed the red zone issues last year, as we all know, finally allowing the Jets to have a pretty passing stat line somewhere on offense (which we also know is the Ultimate Goal).

It sounds like a nice story but Moore's prescence/influence was highly over-stated. Im not a big Sanchez guy but at the end of the day far more credit belongs to him and Plax.

[SenorGato]

It sounds like a nice story but Moore's prescence/influence was highly over-stated. Im not a big Sanchez guy but at the end of the day far more credit belongs to him and Plax.

I think it's darn near impossible to overstate Moore's influence. It was highly noticeable.

Plaxico was and is a thug turd bum who might have been very mean to Sanchez.

Edited by SenorGato, 26 May 2012 - 06:40 PM.

[BlackDynamite]

Every OC looks like Sean Payton following Schotty.

Smart move by Sparano following a known dunce......
BD

[KINGDIRK]

I think it's darn near impossible to overstate Moore's influence. It was highly noticeable.

Plaxico was and is a thug turd bum who might have been very mean to Sanchez.

Aside from Plax being a thug, your 100% wrong.
Again it sounds like a nice story but if you think Tom Moore had a "major" influence, Ive got a bridge to sell you.

[Lil Bit Special]

Lets see how great Sparano is once we actually play some games. It means nothing right now on what the players are saying.

The proof is how they do on the field. With that we have no idea how its going to work with Sparano. Was a move necessary? yep. Hopefully Sparano is the right move. If not, well... more mediocre football.


Jets fans are obsessively hateful to OC's... this one will be no different.

[SenorGato]

Aside from Plax being a thug, your 100% wrong.
Again it sounds like a nice story but if you think Tom Moore had a "major" influence, Ive got a bridge to sell you.

So what you're telling me is that you didn't see Tom Moore's influence?

SOMEONE is blind, but I'm not going to say WHO. Cough*KINGDIRK*Cough