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[Bleedin Green]

Yeah, kind of but Keller had 40 1st downs on the year out of 65 catches so he's moving the chains.

I know there's a decent crowd around here (who have already clearly identified themselves) who are not so fond of Keller, and already felt that way prior to last year, but I'm surprised the lack of credit he gets for the season he had, especially considering how greatly so many others on the offense struggled. I thought he pretty clearly showed some major improvement, and that goes just beyond simple numbers (which all matched or beat his career highs), but in watching his play. Not to mention, for all the crap he's getting for his disappearances, outside of the Baltimore game where the entire offense was a complete disaster, that really wasn't an issue this season.

[JiF]

I know there's a decent crowd around here (who have already clearly identified themselves) who are not so fond of Keller, and already felt that way prior to last year, but I'm surprised the lack of credit he gets for the season he had, especially considering how greatly so many others on the offense struggled. I thought he pretty clearly showed some major improvement, and that goes just beyond simple numbers (which all matched or beat his career highs), but in watching his play. Not to mention, for all the crap he's getting for his disappearances, outside of the Baltimore game where the entire offense was a complete disaster, that really wasn't an issue this season.

Stop. Think about where you are posting. And no longer be surprised.

[KSJets]

I love how some Jets' fans are so quick to trade away players when they're not the best at their position. Is Keller the best TE in the league? No, but he's pretty damn good. Then again, people want to trade Revis too and he IS the best at his position. I'll never understand the couch-GM's that frequent this board.

[pointman]

Keller is expendable. Bring in Ballard. Joking.. about the Ballard part... kind of.

[vinnys025]

Keller isnt going to ask of a deal anywhere near Gronk's deal, however, he will want a long term deal, 5 or 6 years. We need to get this done though. He's still not the best blocking TE in the game, but he's better than when he first got into the league, and I believe that he could be one of the best receiving TE's in the game. Our style of offense (schitty) simply didnt utilize him well. Keller being the leading receiver on the team may show different to non jet fans, but as people who watch the games we've seen plenty of times where Keller is ripping through defenses and then all of a sudden he disappears for the rest of the game because Schotty went away from what worked.

I always liked Keller. He's the best TE that I can remember the Jets having since my time following the team.

Since Terrance Mathis......thats real sad.

[Larz]

he has more leverage than revis

saw this coming miles away

[Villain The Foe]

Since Terrance Mathis......thats real sad.

I had to look dude up. I started following the jets right after he left it seems. Seems like Mathis was the best Jet the atlanta falcons ever had lol.

Edited by Villain The Foe, 13 June 2012 - 01:44 AM.

[slats]

I had to look dude up. I started following the jets right after he left it seems. Seems like Mathis was the best Jet the atlanta falcons ever had lol.

Mathis was a little WR, not a TE. Jets have had a couple good TEs; Richard Caster, Micky Shuler.

I'd like to see the team extend Keller. He may not be a complete TE, but he's always going to be a useful player. A good H-back is good to have. As long as Sanchez is at QB, Keller will be his security blanket.

[Lil Bit Special]

I'll never understand the couch-GM's that frequent this board.

We like misery.

[Bugg]

I missed part of the story, which should say something like "Keller dropped ANOTHER pass".

He doesn't block at all. he's basically an old time flanker who lines up at TE.

He can be effective in spurts but he has the habit of dropping easy ones. He's a cut above a JAG on his best days. The idea of giving him a 5 or 6 year deal is lunacy. In the open market some dumb GM might be so tempted. Don't be that GM, Mr. Tannenbaum.

Edited by Bugg, 13 June 2012 - 11:19 AM.

[bitonti]

he has more leverage than revis

how is that possible? revis is the best player at his position in the league, and possibly the best defender in the league. They can replace Keller, they can't replace Revis.

[Bugg]

how is that possible? revis is the best player at his position in the league, and possibly the best defender in the league. They can replace Keller, they can't replace Revis.

This. In Keller's case his talent is being overvauled. And Revis's case it's being discounted. Revis is superior to anyone else at his position, Keller is eminently replaceable. Because Sanchez throws to him more than he does anyone else doesn't mean he's much better than a JAG TE. A replacement level TE would give you roughly the same production. Given that he doesn't block makes him even more replaceable.

[T0mShane]

Sparano is going to make or break Keller this year. If Sparano comes in and tries to use him like Fasano or Witten, he's going to lose his mind. My hope is that Keller gets used as God intended--flexed out, in motion, lining up in the backfield--while one of the scrub TEs lines up and blocks. Every time Keller puts his hand in the dirt, he's wasted.

[Bleedin Green]

I don't think anyone will even slightly argue that Revis is a better CB than Keller a TE, but I think the point is that Keller's desire for a new contract has some merit to it, while Revis' really doesn't. Keller is in the final year of his rookie deal while Revis, despite being drafted only one year earlier and having his rookie deal set to expire the same time as Keller's, has already been given his second contract (after his second holdout), of which he has only played half of so far.

[JetsFanInDenver]

Ahhh....once Revis starts giving hints of not being entirely happy we see that this disease is contagious.

[Bugg]

I don't think anyone will even slightly argue that Revis is a better CB than Keller a TE, but I think the point is that Keller's desire for a new contract has some merit to it, while Revis' really doesn't. Keller is in the final year of his rookie deal while Revis, despite being drafted only one year earlier and having his rookie deal set to expire the same time as Keller's, has already been given his second contract (after his second holdout), of which he has only played half of so far.

No it doesn't. Your logic is because Keller is still on his rookie contract, the Jets should now overpay him. Your point has NOTHING to do with actaul production of the each player. There's no reason to overpay a guy who can be replaced easily, has a habit of vaporlocking in games and isn't complete in his role.If you plug FA TE X in the same spot with Sanchez he will probably come close or even replicate Keller and may be he will block. Revis is the best player in the NFL at his position, Keller is arguably less than a JAG at his.

[Matt39]

Meh. Keller never turned into that dynamic threat we all thought he could be....especially after the Patriots game he had his rookie season.

For his size, the explosiveness was just never really there. You look at him coming out of Purdue and you saw a matchup nightmare. In that aspect Keller really is a JAG considering he never developed into that.

Add in the fact he has a habit of tripping over lines and brain farts.

Edited by Matt39, 13 June 2012 - 12:56 PM.

[RutgersJetFan]

he has more leverage than revis

[SenorGato]

If the deal is reasonable I don't see why not. I'm thinking breakout year, though I do agree with RJF that they probably should have shopped him during the draft season. That said, it's understandable that they didn't given the TE depth here, in the draft (? I forget already), and in FA, where the oft-injured Carlson got paid really well.

Edited by SenorGato, 13 June 2012 - 01:25 PM.

[Bleedin Green]

No it doesn't. Your logic is because Keller is still on his rookie contract, the Jets should now overpay him. Your point has NOTHING to do with actaul production of the each player. There's no reason to overpay a guy who can be replaced easily, has a habit of vaporlocking in games and isn't complete in his role.If you plug FA TE X in the same spot with Sanchez he will probably come close or even replicate Keller and may be he will block. Revis is the best player in the NFL at his position, Keller is arguably less than a JAG at his.

Speaking of merit, your post lost any the second you completely invented an argument you claimed that I was making in order to justify your trashing of him. Where in the world did I ever say the Jets should overpay him? You couldn't be possibly more wrong about that considering if you go back and take a look, you'll see I was the very first person in this thread who said if Keller has big contract demands (which there's no evidence to suggest he does), then the Jets shouldn't give him a new deal. My point was simple, the guy who has a contract that is expiring has a valid reason to be interested in a new contract, a guy who can't be trusted to honor more than half of a contract absolutely doesn't, and I don't give a **** how good he is.

The thing that is so laughable about it is I never even said the Jets SHOULD give him any new deal, just that he has a legit reason to be interested in one, which should be a pretty indisputable point for anyone not blinded by hatred. Of course, if there was any question that your viewpoint was insanely biased, that got flushed down the toilet with your last asinine "less than a JAG" comment.