RutgersJetFan Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 This might be just the Jets playing it safe so they can save themselves the 7th rounder. I'm not saying it's a conspiracy or anything, but the Jets certainly have motives to side with extreme caution considering the trade was conditional. And nobody's really going to question it considering our med staff's reputation and Otah's history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denden29 Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 Wonder what the conditions were on the trade. We got Schlauderaff for free, this is probably going to be a repeat. The Jets gave up a seventh for Schlauderaff, which is almost nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 hmmmmmmm. That's two draft picks, one of the big name FA's we got and a trade all on PUP. I'm not panicking of course, but that;s not fantastic news to start camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 The most positive report I read was from here: http://thejetpress.com/2012/07/25/jeff-otah-fails-physical-on-activepup-list/ It isn’t supposed to be long term, he should be fine in a few days, but was worth noting. Maybe a conditioning issue? Dr. James Andrews already said the knee was good to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Interesting. If he doesn't pass the physical within seven days, the trade is nullified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Seems like a double standard. Wayne Hunter was physically unable to preform all last year and we still marched him out there every week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 The most positive report I read was from here: http://thejetpress.c...activepup-list/ It isn’t supposed to be long term, he should be fine in a few days, but was worth noting. Maybe a conditioning issue? Dr. James Andrews already said the knee was good to go. If he's the one saying it then it's hard to ignore. I'm not worried. He and Landry are for the season moreso than TC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 oh that's why he was available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Seems like a double standard. Wayne Hunter was physically unable to preform all last year and we still marched him out there every week Fantastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GATA Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 For the love of baby Jesus can we catch a break... Oh please get healthy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Seems like a double standard. Wayne Hunter was physically unable to preform all last year and we still marched him out there every week oops sorry DMC-I thought your post was brilliant and meant to vote it up but stupidly pressed the wrong button Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Seems like a double standard. Wayne Hunter was physically unable to preform all last year and we still marched him out there every week Funny!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 hmmmmmmm. That's two draft picks, one of the big name FA's we got and a trade all on PUP. I'm not panicking of course, but that;s not fantastic news to start camp. That isn't necessarily a bad thing. Especially when you are talking about later round picks. It's a reason not to count on those guys, but I think the Jets core team is fairly strong. Having another mediocre player isn't going to help much just because he is reliable. Eric Smith sucks, but just getting another almost adequate safety doesn't help - I am talking to you Brodney Pool! Better we take some chances with guys that can really add something if healthy. Boom or bust isn't so bad, especially when we are gambling with second and third day draft picks and lower dollar FAs. The most positive report I read was from here: http://thejetpress.c...activepup-list/ It isn’t supposed to be long term, he should be fine in a few days, but was worth noting. Maybe a conditioning issue? Dr. James Andrews already said the knee was good to go. The part that should worry us is that I think in Carolina they claimed his kees were "structurally sound" or something, but he still wouldn't play. Pretty sure that supposedly soured the coaches and players on him a bit according to some reports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 The part that should worry us is that I think in Carolina they claimed his kees were "structurally sound" or something, but he still wouldn't play. Pretty sure that supposedly soured the coaches and players on him a bit according to some reports. I agree 100%. He's in the final year of his rookie deal. Either he gets his sh!t together right now, or he's out of football. It all comes down to how important that is to him, IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 This is Ok- he can work into shape and be ready- yes I am thinking positive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 That isn't necessarily a bad thing. Especially when you are talking about later round picks. It's a reason not to count on those guys, but I think the Jets core team is fairly strong. Having another mediocre player isn't going to help much just because he is reliable. Eric Smith sucks, but just getting another almost adequate safety doesn't help - I am talking to you Brodney Pool! Better we take some chances with guys that can really add something if healthy. Boom or bust isn't so bad, especially when we are gambling with second and third day draft picks and lower dollar FAs. I hear ya. I was all about letting pool go. I'm also of the same thought process that if we are afraid to get rid of "good enough" we will never make room for someone to rise to being dominant or elite. It's the Kyle Clifton syndrome. I loved him and he was the best Jets tackler for 10 years or so, but no one outside of Jetsville ever heard of him. My whole fear is that it's never good news to have players, especially one's you're hoping will upgrade the position, starting camp on PUP. Silver lining is that at least it's now and not Aug 15th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 This is Ok- he can work into shape and be ready- yes I am thinking positive this guy hasn't been healthy for 2 years. what's gonna change in a week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billo83 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 this guy hasn't been healthy for 2 years. what's gonna change in a week? His career will essentially be over? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 this guy hasn't been healthy for 2 years. what's gonna change in a week? Pretty much. It's not a conditioning test, it's a physical. RJF mentioned the possibility of some shenanigans, but that notwithstanding, if his knee's not healthy now there's no reason to think it'll get healthy in time for the trade to stand up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Pretty much. It's not a conditioning test, it's a physical. RJF mentioned the possibility of some shenanigans, but that notwithstanding, if his knee's not healthy now there's no reason to think it'll get healthy in time for the trade to stand up. I'd imagine they'll pencil-whip a passed physical next week and hope they can get something out of him at some point down the road. If there's a 10% chance Otah becomes healthy and motivated, that's probably better than counting on Vlad Ducasse to be your Plan B at right tackle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Rex was asked about Otah today: On Jeff Otah being placed on the PUP list… With Jeff, he has not met the terms of the trade agreement right now so we are not going to comment specifically on Jeff. I don’t feel comfortable doing that right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 I'd imagine they'll pencil-whip a passed physical next week and hope they can get something out of him at some point down the road. If there's a 10% chance Otah becomes healthy and motivated, that's probably better than counting on Vlad Ducasse to be your Plan B at right tackle. No I think it is just the opposite. If he can't pass the physical they will wash their hands of this. No reason to give up a draft pick if they can't get him on the field for camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Ray1 Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 this guy hasn't been healthy for 2 years. what's gonna change in a week? But Bit, I'd like to think the Jets made this move after doing some homework. I'm not convinced Otah is on the PUP due to failed physical yet, I think it could be conditioning related and want to get an extended look at him during the 7 day period, he's up at Cortland and moved in with the rest of the team, to me, this is a move the Jets have been working on for a little while, and believe he can be a reclamation project. If healthy, and the Jets can get this player back on track, it could be a huge move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 But Bit, I'd like to think the Jets made this move after doing some homework. I'm not convinced Otah is on the PUP due to failed physical yet, I think it could be conditioning related it was reported 7/25 by ESPN New York that he failed his physical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darrellegivesmeaboner#24 Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 it was reported 7/25 by ESPN New York that he failed his physical. Isn't the conditioning drills part of the physical? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Isn't the conditioning drills part of the physical? that's a good question but usually when a player fails the conditioning drills they say that. I think the Physical is purely a doctor's exam room thing. But i could be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darrellegivesmeaboner#24 Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 that's a good question but usually when a player fails the conditioning drills they say that. I think the Physical is purely a doctor's exam room thing. But i could be wrong. In this case, the Jets are being very quiet. Since we have reports of Dr. James Andrews claiming his knee is fine, I am hopeful that this is a conditioning issue. They have been very careful to not say anything since the trade isn't official yet, but if he flunked the knee part of the physical I bet we would have sent him back already. They are probably trying to prevent a media storm by pretending that he isn't just fat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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