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[Villain The Foe]

Gets too many yards running, throws the ball down the field too much, is too much of a leader and doesn't turn the ball over enough for ya, huh?

This doesnt change what I said the slightest. Still hating I see.

[Gastineau Lives]

This doesnt change what I said the slightest. Still hating I see.

You do realize that saying the same senseless thing over and over again does not make it true, right?

[Villain The Foe]

You do realize that saying the same senseless thing over and over again does not make it true, right?

Been trying to get that through to you, yet you insist on hating even though when you get your points corrected you disregard it.

To each his own I guess. We'll see come reg. season.

[slats]

Gets too many yards running, throws the ball down the field too much, is too much of a leader and doesn't turn the ball over enough for ya, huh?

You do realize that saying the same senseless thing over and over again does not make it true, right?

GLASS HOUSE ALERT!

[Villain The Foe]

GLASS HOUSE ALERT!

lol. exactly.

[Gastineau Lives]

Been trying to get that through to you, yet you insist on hating even though when you get your points corrected you disregard it.
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To each his own I guess. We'll see come reg. season.

What points have you ever corrected? The fact that Sanchez took us to the championship twice in a row?

You know, even if Sanchez does turn it around, your arguments TODAY still make no sense. You might as well be defending David Carr or any number of sh*tty QB's that were horrible for their first two or three years and became footnotes. The only difference is that Sanchez played with a great defense AND had a good running game which has bought him way more time than any of those other non-entities got and more than he deserves. The only year he didn't was last year and his ineptitude did NO ONE any favors, be it his running backs, his offensive line OR his defense that were on the field more quickly than any other in the league last year and almost TWICE a game were on the field after a turnover by your hero.

Edited by Gastineau Lives, 01 August 2012 - 08:51 PM.

[Gastineau Lives]

GLASS HOUSE ALERT!

Tell me one thing I said that was not rooted in fact and I will shut up.

The Lives of John Lennon is a great book by the way. Have you read it? Love Albert Goldman.

I have never said that Tim Tebow was a great or even a good quarterback. My overriding point is that Sanchez is not appreciably better than him, if he's better at all. Unless, of course, you are employing your obvious eagle eye for talent evaluation that has every franchise in the NFL calling you for advice, then Sanchez is head and shoulders above Tebow. It's not even close.

Edited by Gastineau Lives, 01 August 2012 - 08:48 PM.

[Villain The Foe]

What points have you ever corrected? The fact that Sanchez took us to the championship twice in a row?

You know, even if Sanchez does turn it around, your arguments TODAY still make no sense. You might as well be defending David Carr or any number of sh*tty QB's that were horrible for their first two or three years and became footnotes. The only difference is that Sanchez played with a great defense AND had a good running game which has bought him way more time than any of those other non-entities got and more than he deserves. The only year he didn't was last year and his ineptitude did NO ONE any favors, be it his running backs, his offensive line OR his defense that were on the field more quickly than any other in the league last year and almost TWICE a game were on the field after a turnover by your hero.

Im not going through this with you again. TL;DR

Edited by Villain The Foe, 01 August 2012 - 08:53 PM.

[slats]

The Lives of John Lennon is a great book by the way. Have you read it? Love Albert Goldman.

Are you kidding me? That book is a steaming pile of sh!t. Goldman is a scumbag.

[Gastineau Lives]

Im not going through this with you again. TL;DR

The point is, even if you turn out to be right. It will be by some miracle and not by any empirical evidence otherwise.

[Gastineau Lives]

Are you kidding me? That book is a steaming pile of sh!t. Goldman is a scumbag.

Of course.

[Villain The Foe]

The point is, even if you turn out to be right. It will be by some miracle and not by any empirical evidence otherwise.

cool.

[JiF]

I feel like this is appropriate:

[HDKostempski]

Tell me one thing I said that was not rooted in fact and I will shut up.

The Lives of John Lennon is a great book by the way. Have you read it? Love Albert Goldman.

I have never said that Tim Tebow was a great or even a good quarterback. My overriding point is that Sanchez is not appreciably better than him, if he's better at all. Unless, of course, you are employing your obvious eagle eye for talent evaluation that has every franchise in the NFL calling you for advice, then Sanchez is head and shoulders above Tebow. It's not even close.

I agree. I think neither is a starting caliber-NFL QB that a team can consistently win with because neither one of them can read NFL defenses, and without being able to do that, neither is going to succeed. That's the one thing that each and every successful NFL QB has to be able to do.

Sanchez will look pretty while throwing but be ineffective. Tebow will be exciting while running but still be ineffective. He'll also look ugly as sin when passing, and his charisma still only going to get him so far.

Edited by HDKostempski, 02 August 2012 - 08:06 AM.

[RutgersJetFan]

I agree. I think neither is a starting caliber-NFL QB that a team can consistently win with because neither one of them can read NFL defenses, and without being able to do that, neither is going to succeed. That's the one thing that each and every successful NFL QB has to be able to do.

[slats]

I agree. I think neither is a starting caliber-NFL QB that a team can consistently win with because neither one of them can read NFL defenses, and without being able to do that, neither is going to succeed. That's the one thing that each and every successful NFL QB has to be able to do.

Sanchez will look pretty while throwing but be ineffective. Tebow will be exciting while running but still be ineffective. He'll also look ugly as sin when passing, and his charisma still only going to get him so far.

Do you think Ryan Fitzpatrick is a starting caliber NFL QB that a team can consistently win with? I'd like to get a baseline on your opinion before I chime in. Thanks.

[Klecko73isGod]

I agree. I think neither is a starting caliber-NFL QB that a team can consistently win with because neither one of them can read NFL defenses, and without being able to do that, neither is going to succeed. That's the one thing that each and every successful NFL QB has to be able to do.

Sanchez will look pretty while throwing but be ineffective. Tebow will be exciting while running but still be ineffective. He'll also look ugly as sin when passing, and his charisma still only going to get him so far.

And what about Ryan "I led the NFL in interceptions and my contract now hangs like an albatross around the neck of the Buffalo Bills organization" Fitzpatrick?

[Jet27]

Does Tim Tebow make this team better? The answer is yes.

The media hype is what it is. The Jets wanted that for better or worse. They want to sell tickets and jerseys, I really believe that is the primary driver for bringing him here. That said, he makes this team better. He is replacing Mark Brunell as the backup QB.

So the question really is, is Tim Tebow better than Mark Brunell? The answer is yes.

He can help them in running situations. He will help them on special teams. And he provides depth.

The media circus is what it is, people wanting him to start is not going to change any of that. Mark Sanchez is the QB and injuries aside, that is simply not going to change. So I will be rooting for both of them because he does make this team better.

Excellent point....anyone who doesn't see the value of Tebow on this team is not looking at the bigger picture. And by the way Elway backstabbed this kid even when he was in the process of winning 6 or 7 games in a row and taking them to the playoffs....what does that tell you. F the haters. Lets go Jets, Lets go Sanchez and Lets go Tebow!

[Jet27]

I feel like this is appropriate:

I could care less. And I don't care how we win as long as we win and are in the playoffs thats what matters, not all the hating that's going on around here on this kid. If we win because of Sanchez thats great, if we win because of Tebow thats great. Come On man!

[Bleedin Green]

Do you think Ryan Fitzpatrick is a starting caliber NFL QB that a team can consistently win with? I'd like to get a baseline on your opinion before I chime in. Thanks.

Well does he have to judge Fitzpatrick on the basis of an entire NFL season, or can he base it just on September?