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#21 WWWWombat

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Posted 30 October 2012 - 11:00 PM

As it stands now I think it absolutely does. Does he have to be Koufax (0.95 ERA in 4 world series)? No, you can look at Randy Johnson, who went through a 0-6 postseason stretch, however Johnson also has a World Series MVP to his name. There will definitely be a blemish next to Verlander's name until he can redeem himself on the big stage. Does it hurt HOF chances, no, he's obviously a great pitcher, but I think it hurts his "aura" as an all time immortal. Seaver's only like 1-2 but has a, I think, 2.70 ERA. I'm not saying you need to be perfect but he's got to at least have 1 shining moment imo. Not always fair but I think it's true.


I disagree. Rings don't really mean much in baseball. If we were talking about a basketball player, you might have a point. Ted Williams never won a ring and was pretty bad in the one World Series he played in. He's still one of the best hitters of all time.
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Posted 02 November 2012 - 01:41 PM

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 03:16 PM

Rings don't really mean much in baseball.


Lol.

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 06:02 PM

Lol.


I agree with wombat, it does not matter as much.

Ted Wlliams never won and he can make an argument for being the greatest ever. Ernie Banks. Griffey. Gwynn.

I think the dynamic might have shifted a tad, but unlike basketball where it is uber important, it is less so in baseball.
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Posted 03 November 2012 - 09:34 PM

I agree with wombat, it does not matter as much.

Ted Wlliams never won and he can make an argument for being the greatest ever. Ernie Banks. Griffey. Gwynn.

I think the dynamic might have shifted a tad, but unlike basketball where it is uber important, it is less so in baseball.


Ruth, Mays, Aaron, Mantle, and Gehrig > Williams, Cobb, Banks, Griffey Jr and Gwynn
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Posted 04 November 2012 - 01:10 AM

Barry Bonds also has 0 rings. Balls.

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 09:19 AM

Ruth, Mays, Aaron, Mantle, and Gehrig > Williams, Cobb, Banks, Griffey Jr and Gwynn


Just when I think you cannot possibly be any dumber, you raise the bar. Congrats.
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