SenorGato Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Yeah Johnson hates winning. Favre, Sanchez, and even Tebow were about the money to be gained by being frustratingly mediocre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 If they draft a QB, look for a new Sanchez guarentee contract extension, because that's how this front office rolls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 That's the correct way to go from a football standpoint. But that will not sell PSL's. I betcha Woody is telling Tanny and Rex to fix this and fix this quick. If they felt the backup QB would be a better option he would be in by now. But moving forward no way Sanchez unless he can miraculously play better is the starting QB next season. So unless we land a Drew Brees by some miracle there is no way the JETS are going to next year's draft without scouting all potential QB's and having a plan to acquire the one they like in the first round. My fear is we win a few meaningless games at the end of the season drop down enough in the first round and than waste precious picks to move up the first round. Sound familiar. It's unfortunate that the right way and the jets way is often not the same thing. I'm of the camp that if you feel someone is a legit franchise signal caller, you do what you can to get him, because winning without one is damned near impossible, as we've shown. If he's not it, then you don't trade the farm for him; you do what a good team does, fix our Oline, get a legit passrush and then try to acquire a quarterback via the later rounds or whatever. We shall see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthCoastJetsFan Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Playing the game Strong chin and a square jaw Muscles Piercing eyes Well above average height Preferably white and over 40 though exceptions can be made Needs a Football Man's ability to spot a starting QB from a mile away, look him straight in the eye, shake his hand in a firm and short manner, and close the deal Sounds like a perfect description of Matt Millen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthCoastJetsFan Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Dark horse QB prospect ... Ryan Nassib from Syracuse. Not as tall as I'd like, 6'2" but 230 pounds and lots of guts... 18TDs, 7 ints, 65% completion rate and has carried that offense on his back all year long. Probably be able to get him later in the draft. A player for the Jets to look into. I watch him every week, and if you think Sanchez sucks, Nassib is a lot worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 I watch him every week, and if you think Sanchez sucks, Nassib is a lot worse. I'd have to agree with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 Yeah Johnson hates winning. Favre, Sanchez, and even Tebow were about the money to be gained by being frustratingly mediocre. Ahh i forgot...an owner always knows that what sells off the field will always succeed on the field. Wonder why football teams have GM's. The owner should always do the decision making. Like Jerry Jones does! The Tebow move does not make any football sense. Period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetfire Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 Ahh i forgot...an owner always knows that what sells off the field will always succeed on the field. Wonder why football teams have GM's. The owner should always do the decision making. Like Jerry Jones does! The Tebow move does not make any football sense. Period. the jets jumped the shark when they traded for tebow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 the jets jumped the shark when they traded for tebow. This. They've been hard to take seriously since then. It would have taken a playoff winning type season to prove to me otherwise. At this point I don't see how they don't give him a shot. They've gone this far, Sanchez sucks, time to start throwing lifelines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsouth Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 That's the correct way to go from a football standpoint. But that will not sell PSL's. I betcha Woody is telling Tanny and Rex to fix this and fix this quick. If they felt the backup QB would be a better option he would be in by now. But moving forward no way Sanchez unless he can miraculously play better is the starting QB next season. So unless we land a Drew Brees by some miracle there is no way the JETS are going to next year's draft without scouting all potential QB's and having a plan to acquire the one they like in the first round. My fear is we win a few meaningless games at the end of the season drop down enough in the first round and than waste precious picks to move up the first round. Sound familiar. Brees was almost left for dead.. his start were it replicated in NY, would be fitting.. a mediocre first season, then replaced by the guy he was supposed to replace.. Besides, it turns out that not all of Denver's problems were QB centered, just because they finally pulled out of a downward spiral doesn't mean Peyton has led anyone to the promised land yet. If Peyton stays healthy, they might be the sh*t next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 Brees was almost left for dead.. his start were it replicated in NY, would be fitting.. a mediocre first season, then replaced by the guy he was supposed to replace.. Besides, it turns out that not all of Denver's problems were QB centered, just because they finally pulled out of a downward spiral doesn't mean Peyton has led anyone to the promised land yet. If Peyton stays healthy, they might be the sh*t next year. Yes, he had his issues. But your argument would suit well if you were defending Sanchez on that basis. I stay in this town but i do not propose to have minute detailed knowledge on all goings Broncos. So apart from QB do tell what Broncos issues were ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 the jets jumped the shark when they traded for tebow. This. They've been hard to take seriously since then. It would have taken a playoff winning type season to prove to me otherwise. At this point I don't see how they don't give him a shot. They've gone this far, Sanchez sucks, time to start throwing lifelines. They really messed up. last year they messed up their WR corps. This year it was the media, attention garnering, fake backup QB! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsouth Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 Yes, he had his issues. But your argument would suit well if you were defending Sanchez on that basis. I stay in this town but i do not propose to have minute detailed knowledge on all goings Broncos. So apart from QB do tell what Broncos issues were ? All I am saying is Peyton was supposed to complete the Broncos.. and they were 3-3 until their last game, and that is with Manning throwing to guys he brought with him... So the Donks had more that just a QB problem... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelticwizard Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 This business of "we need a QB but there's nobody out there so let's draft a second or third rounder" doesn't cut it. A few years ago I checked the 16 top ranked QB's that year, and 8 were first rounders, two were second rounders and the remainder were lower rounders and UDFA's. There were as many UDFA's starting that year in the top 16 as there were second rounders. Brees, Esiason and Favre are exceptions, true, but all three were widely regarded as going in the first round before the draft who somehow slipped down. The players being discussed here all seem to be regarded as second or third rounders pre-draft. Do we want to repeat Miami's experience with Chad Henne? "We can get this guy second round-hey, he looks pretty good in training camp let's make him the future". If the guy isn't good enough to go first round, he's not good enough to be the man you draft to build your offense around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 All I am saying is Peyton was supposed to complete the Broncos.. and they were 3-3 until their last game, and that is with Manning throwing to guys he brought with him... So the Donks had more that just a QB problem... Peyton is still not throwing darts out there. We will see. If he lasts the entire season they might be dangerous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strangefunk Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 We need a College QB... Geno Smith Barkley from USc The K-State QB? The Texas Tech qb? Gimme some names of who you think Jets should take in the draft. Its clear that the Jets will stick with Sanchez next year and then start a new QB. Who ever we choose will be the starter in 2014. Between this year and next, we will see a lot of bad games... 2012 - 6-10 2013 - 7-9 2014 - New QB and Sanchize can go back to male modeling and being a spokesgal for In and Out burger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Ahh i forgot...an owner always knows that what sells off the field will always succeed on the field. Wonder why football teams have GM's. The owner should always do the decision making. Like Jerry Jones does! The Tebow move does not make any football sense. Period. Meh, insisting it doesnt make it true. A ten year old could figure out why he would be useful beyond ZOMGZ PRESS CLIPPINGZ AND PSLZZZ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 IF the Jets want to replace Sanchez and This business of "we need a QB but there's nobody out there so let's draft a second or third rounder" doesn't cut it. A few years ago I checked the 16 top ranked QB's that year, and 8 were first rounders, two were second rounders and the remainder were lower rounders and UDFA's. There were as many UDFA's starting that year in the top 16 as there were second rounders. Brees, Esiason and Favre are exceptions, true, but all three were widely regarded as going in the first round before the draft who somehow slipped down. The players being discussed here all seem to be regarded as second or third rounders pre-draft. Do we want to repeat Miami's experience with Chad Henne? "We can get this guy second round-hey, he looks pretty good in training camp let's make him the future". If the guy isn't good enough to go first round, he's not good enough to be the man you draft to build your offense around. I don't agree with your premise. This is EXACTLY the time when drafting a non-first round QB could be useful. A guy that has talent and upside and can sit for a year or part of the year while you finalize your dealings with Sanchez and/or Tebow. This whole board wants a new starter yesterday, but that isn't going to happen. IF they get a developmental prospect and actually developed them it might work. With Sanchez they got a talented kid that needed experience and work and threw him out to start without even letting him loose to make mistakes. Classic way to ruin a young QB. I see how they might have had limited options, but it's not the optimal way to end up with a QB1. They don't need a QB to build their team around. They need a QB that doesn't suck. Period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Meh, insisting it doesnt make it true. A ten year old could figure out why he would be useful beyond ZOMGZ PRESS CLIPPINGZ AND PSLZZZ. Huh ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 There are football reasons Tim Tebow was added to the roster. Period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 There are football reasons Tim Tebow was added to the roster. Period. Football reasons ≠ good reasons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Kyle Orton as a stop gap for 1-2 years -should come cheap - then check the draft for competent QB candidates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 We need a College QB... Geno Smith Barkley from USc The K-State QB? The Texas Tech qb? Gimme some names of who you think Jets should take in the draft. Its clear that the Jets will stick with Sanchez next year and then start a new QB. Who ever we choose will be the starter in 2014. Between this year and next, we will see a lot of bad games... K States QB is more in the Tebow mold. Alabamas QB hasnt thrown a INT this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 The KC Chiefs will be in the market for a QB this draft too and will likely have the 1st pick the way theyre playing. Pioli might be fired before the draft too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 The KC Chiefs will be in the market for a QB this draft too and will likely have the 1st pick the way theyre playing. Pioli might be fired before the draft too. Egoli should be canned, why would Hunts extend him after he made original sin by tradin for mama cass mon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Honest question: did afosomf always talk like Hermes Conrad? I'm worried that he had a stroke or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aec4 Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 remind me again why we didn't just offer Peyton Manning the same contract as the Broncos, BUT guarantee 2 years of his contract instead of 1 like the Broncos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetcane Redux Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Picking a new QB should be taken completely out of the hands of Tannenbaum, who clearly did not have a viable plan going into last/this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Egoli should be canned, why would Hunts extend him after he made original sin by tradin for mama cass mon Truer words have never been typed. George Costanza cant be trusted with the KC 1st round pick when they need a QB. There is talk of bring Herm back to be GM. No joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Egoli should be canned, why would Hunts extend him after he made original sin by tradin for mama cass mon Speaking of Klein and McCarrons, Bama might play KSU for the Championship. Snyder is a hell of a HC, but I dont think he could pull off beating Saban. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Speaking of Klein and McCarrons, Bama might play KSU for the Championship. Snyder is a hell of a HC, but I dont think he could pull off beating Saban. My Bama has a tough rd ahead LSU in death valley a tough place and then A&M vs Johhny football and then Sec championship game vs Ga in Atlanta Long way to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Honest question: did afosomf always talk like Hermes Conrad? I'm worried that he had a stroke or something. Bender - We are going to fight to legalize it right here! Hermes -Yeh mon, Ya got to legalize it! Amy - You know we are talking about robosexual marriage, right Hermes - We are talking about lot's of stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedinGreenNC Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 My concern about Glennon is that after Sanchez, I hate drafting someone without at least 3 years of starting experience at the college level (preferably 4). The NFL is not the right place to learn how to play QB. No to Glennon, i have watched him play numerous times, no thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 Football reasons ≠ good reasons Agreed but the sole purpose wasnt PSLs. He was and still is/could be a different kind of Brad Smith for the roster. I'm not uninterested in how it plays out either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 this looks like a weak ass year for QB. Geno Smith at the top and possibly no other QB in the round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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