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Why Note Trade Cro?


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#1 KINGDIRK

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 01:19 PM

Like him or not, Cromartie is playing at an extremely high level this season. He has two years left on his deal after this one. I would hope Tanny is at least exploring the idea of trading him. (though I am not sure what kind of cap implications would be incurred)

No one is giving up a 1st but if Vontae Davis went for a 2nd, Cro should definitely net a 2nd rounder.

Unless people think this team is going to be SB contenders in the next 24 months, it would make a ton of sense to try and make a deal.
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Posted 01 November 2012 - 01:22 PM

Like him or not, Cromartie is playing at an extremely high level this season. He has two years left on his deal after this one. I would hope Tanny is at least exploring the idea of trading him. (though I am not sure what kind of cap implications would be incurred)

No one is giving up a 1st but if Vontae Davis went for a 2nd, Cro should definitely net a 2nd rounder.

Unless people think this team is going to be SB contenders in the next 24 months, it would make a ton of sense to try and make a deal.


The one to trade him would be Tannenbaum, and if he did that he'd be conceding the season at 3-5. He won't do it. He's more likely to be on the other end of a trade right now, where he trades one of our draft picks for a player that may help bring us another 1 win, but who will be an unrestricted free agent in March.
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Posted 01 November 2012 - 01:25 PM

There's one very important, and perhaps hard to admit, reason not to trade Cromartie now. Because it's very possible at some point in the next 9 or so months, the Jets will find themselves in a situation where it's going to be Revis who makes the most sense for them to trade, in that case they're going to really want to have Cromartie still around. The truth is, Revis' injury makes an already difficult situation all that much worse. He's coming off a serious injury, will be entering the last year of his deal, is going to be looking for a big time contract and the Jets won't be able to franchise him after the 2013 season. It's very possible if they don't get him extended this coming offseason, he'll be walking in 2014 with the Jets getting absolutely nothing in return, and in that case, trading him is going to become a serious consideration.
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Posted 01 November 2012 - 01:30 PM

'Cause Crow is beasting this season.
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Posted 01 November 2012 - 01:37 PM

Don't trade our good players! Wassamattawithu?
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Posted 01 November 2012 - 02:09 PM

You really want to trade our best defensive and offensive skill position player?
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Posted 01 November 2012 - 02:20 PM

The truth is, Revis' injury makes an already difficult situation all that much worse.


i saw it the other way. Revis was never hurt (or anything but awesome) before this season. This injury gives the Jets a little bit of leverage, both sides can work out a rational deal. If Revis had another AllPro year he could have asked for the moon and the stars.

I do agree tho that trading Cro doesn't really help anything. they can get another 2nd round. Oohh like Stephen Hill? Great... it helps the 2016 Jets it doesn't do much in the near term.
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Posted 01 November 2012 - 02:23 PM

It is a popular opinion with some fans that when a team stinks you trade away the good guys and try and get a ton of stuff back instead of trying to do other things to add pieces to the guys you have that are good. The fact is there is only one Herschel Walker trade in history. Trading Cro would net a draft pick (probably more like a third, but for argument's sake let's say a second) which we would use and if we made the perfect pick would have another younger version of Cro. It really doesn't make much sense to do that.
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Posted 01 November 2012 - 02:32 PM

cro is a bright spot on an otherwise lackluster twam
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Posted 01 November 2012 - 02:37 PM

It is a popular opinion with some fans that when a team stinks you trade away the good guys and try and get a ton of stuff back instead of trying to do other things to add pieces to the guys you have that are good. The fact is there is only one Herschel Walker trade in history. Trading Cro would net a draft pick (probably more like a third, but for argument's sake let's say a second) which we would use and if we made the perfect pick would have another younger version of Cro. It really doesn't make much sense to do that.

sh*t would hit the effin fan if Cro went for a 3rd while Vontae Davis goes for a second.
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Posted 01 November 2012 - 02:53 PM

sh*t would hit the effin fan if Cro went for a 3rd while Vontae Davis goes for a second.


When you take into account their ages, salaries and baggage, I think Cro brings less on the open market than Davis.
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Posted 01 November 2012 - 03:02 PM

This team isnt going anywhere, anytime in the next couple years. If you get a high 2nd rd pick for Cro, you pull the trigger......

....if another GM is choosing the draft pick.
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Posted 01 November 2012 - 03:14 PM

This team isnt going anywhere, anytime in the next couple years. If you get a high 2nd rd pick for Cro, you pull the trigger......

....if another GM is choosing the draft pick.


Keep dreaming...he didn't bring that kind of haul when he was 25, not making $8 million a year and only 2 years removed from being NFL defensive player of the year, he certainly isn't bringing anything close to that, now.
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Posted 01 November 2012 - 03:27 PM

Keep dreaming...he didn't bring that kind of haul when he was 25, not making $8 million a year and only 2 years removed from being NFL defensive player of the year, he certainly isn't bringing anything close to that, now.


I'd take a top 60 pick and a late rder for Cro.

He's not a team leader and he still wont tackle. Solid player but this team is going nowhere without a QB.
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Posted 01 November 2012 - 04:05 PM

Like him or not, Cromartie is playing at an extremely high level this season. He has two years left on his deal after this one. I would hope Tanny is at least exploring the idea of trading him. (though I am not sure what kind of cap implications would be incurred)

No one is giving up a 1st but if Vontae Davis went for a 2nd, Cro should definitely net a 2nd rounder.

Unless people think this team is going to be SB contenders in the next 24 months, it would make a ton of sense to try and make a deal.


Who do you want to draft with that pick? Please be specific. I know you're not even sure what round it would be or to which team, but go ahead and take a shot since you're trading away one of the best players on the team.
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Posted 01 November 2012 - 04:13 PM

Nope, nope, nope keep Cro, we need a good GM and a large knife for the likes of Harris, Pace, Scott, Sanchez.
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Posted 01 November 2012 - 04:44 PM

It is a popular opinion with some fans that when a team stinks you trade away the good guys and try and get a ton of stuff back instead of trying to do other things to add pieces to the guys you have that are good. The fact is there is only one Herschel Walker trade in history. Trading Cro would net a draft pick (probably more like a third, but for argument's sake let's say a second) which we would use and if we made the perfect pick would have another younger version of Cro. It really doesn't make much sense to do that.


What do we need good players for?
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Posted 01 November 2012 - 04:47 PM

It is a popular opinion with some fans that when a team stinks you trade away the good guys and try and get a ton of stuff back instead of trying to do other things to add pieces to the guys you have that are good. The fact is there is only one Herschel Walker trade in history. Trading Cro would net a draft pick (probably more like a third, but for argument's sake let's say a second) which we would use and if we made the perfect pick would have another younger version of Cro. It really doesn't make much sense to do that.


Oh and PS: Ricky Williams.
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Posted 01 November 2012 - 05:17 PM

Who do you want to draft with that pick? Please be specific. I know you're not even sure what round it would be or to which team, but go ahead and take a shot since you're trading away one of the best players on the team.

I don't think you're being fair. I can see your side but I can see Teh Dirk's too. If I'm a Jet fan, I'm not really upset either way...but Cro's only 28, I think. He'd still be in his prime in 2 years if they were ready to make a run by then. I'd probably trade a 2nd for him but not a 3rd. Doesn't matter because if Tanny admits to rebuilding then he's good as gone. Trading Cro would be admitting that/defeat.

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 05:21 PM

If it were actually possible to get Romo or Rivers next year I'd keep the core, don't trade anyone and take one more shot with Rex and Co. If not, starting dumping salaries and getting younger...
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Posted 01 November 2012 - 05:43 PM

no just stop
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Posted 01 November 2012 - 06:49 PM

Tannenbaum has done nothing but mortgage our future to pay for today. Don't see that changing anytime soon considering his job is on the line.
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Posted 01 November 2012 - 07:05 PM

If it were actually possible to get Romo or Rivers next year I'd keep the core, don't trade anyone and take one more shot with Rex and Co. If not, starting dumping salaries and getting younger...


Yeah, but how young can you possibly get when you're talking about Antonio Cromartie, who is 28 years old? I don't see any fetuses playing cornerback on the cheap any time soon.


And yes, I'm aware of the irony of talking about fetuses in the same sentence as our very virile cornerback.

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 07:16 PM

It is a popular opinion with some fans that when a team stinks you trade away the good guys and try and get a ton of stuff back instead of trying to do other things to add pieces to the guys you have that are good. The fact is there is only one Herschel Walker trade in history. Trading Cro would net a draft pick (probably more like a third, but for argument's sake let's say a second) which we would use and if we made the perfect pick would have another younger version of Cro. It really doesn't make much sense to do that.

I just don't see the Jets being legit SB contenders in the next 2 years. I dont expect a Hershel Walker type trade but if we arent real contenders in the near term, why not add an additional pick. Like I said, Vontae Davis went for a 2nd rounder - cant see why someone might not pony up the same for Cro (contract notwithstanding).
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Posted 01 November 2012 - 07:24 PM

Who do you want to draft with that pick? Please be specific. I know you're not even sure what round it would be or to which team, but go ahead and take a shot since you're trading away one of the best players on the team.

Oh, I am not going to sit here and pretend to be an NFL scout. Your request to hear who I want to draft with an extra 2nd round pick is ridiculous. Here what I am thinking. We are NOWHERE CLOSE to being SB contenders. I don't care how many AFC Title games we lost recently. That being said, trading a guy like Cro for an additional pick makes total sense.

NFL organizations that are run very well build thru the draft. So yes, I think adding additional picks for a guy who wont be around when we are real contenders again makes total sense. Perhaps you can tell me why that would not be sound strategy. Or better yet, tell me what you would suggest? Keep one of our best players for another 2 years while we struggle to be a .500 team and then end up getting nothing for him?
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