Ken Schroy Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Scott, McKnight, Ellis sit out Jets practice By BRIAN COSTELLO Posted: 11:28 AM, November 5, 2012 Jets coach Rex Ryan hoped his team would get healthy during the bye week. It has, but it's still not 100 percent. LB Bart Scott (toe), RB Joe McKnight (ankle) and NT Kenrick Ellis (toe) will not practice Monday. The Jets do have some players practicing on a limited basis who have been out: S Eric Smith (knee), TE Jeff Cumberland (wrist) and RB Bilal Powell (shoulder). The Jets signed two players to the practice squad Monday: RB John Griffin and LB D.J. Bryant. Read more: http://www.nypost.co...M#ixzz2BNR02zit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Who else thought Scott McKnight was back. FWIW, Griffin was with the team this offseason and early in camp. I think he was hurt and didn't do much so they dumped him for some other UDFA kid. Bryant is the UDFA LB from James Madison that was with the Texans that the Jets had in for a tryout at the end of camp. Was a DE will be an OLB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Pussies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 And we let Jonathan Grimmes go away. Why ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Schroy Posted November 5, 2012 Author Share Posted November 5, 2012 He sucked worse? ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 He sucked worse? ?? Probably not. They probably wanted to sign Grimes to the practice squad, but the Texans picked him up off of waivers. Tate is injured, so they need the body and he is familiar with their offense from camp. The Jets probably waived him because Powell is back practicing. Powell and McKnight being limited means they needed a practice squad body to fill in during the week. I think they are fairly comfortable with Hilliard ahead of Grimes on the RB depth chart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Who else thought Scott McKnight was back. LOL, this guy. I was like huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 And we let Jonathan Grimmes go away. Why ? Jets are stupid. There's room in Cleveland for everybody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonehands Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 And we let Jonathan Grimmes go away. Why ? Because he sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 This season has gotten out of control so fast. Halfway point and I am already looking for the 2014 season. F the 2013 season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Because he sucks. On what basis did you base that opinion on ? Is it because Houston claimed him as soon as he was available ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonehands Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 On what basis did you base that opinion on ? Is it because Houston claimed him as soon as he was available ? Because he was undrafted, because he was unclaimed after the preseason, because he was cut by the only team that gave him a sniff (Houston), because the Jets cut him, because Houston is the only team that seems to have any interest in him. If he was good, there would have been multiple claims for the guy any of the 5 or so times he has hit the waiver wire or he would have been drafted as one of the 250+ picks in the NFL draft. Let me know when he turns into Eric Dickerson, will ya? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 Because he was undrafted, because he was unclaimed after the preseason, because he was cut by the only team that gave him a sniff (Houston), because the Jets cut him, because Houston is the only team that seems to have any interest in him. If he was good, there would have been multiple claims for the guy any of the 5 or so times he has hit the waiver wire or he would have been drafted as one of the 250+ picks in the NFL draft. Let me know when he turns into Eric Dickerson, will ya? Oh i get it. Yeah those latter round picks in the draft and undrafted guys are always worthless. You would make a good GM for the JETS and I hear the job is going to be open soon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 Oh i get it. Yeah those latter round picks in the draft and undrafted guys are always worthless. You would make a good GM for the JETS and I hear the job is going to be open soon! He is a fringe player. He was on the Texans practice squad until the Jets needed him based on injury. When Powell started healing the cut him, probably to stash on the practice squad and the Texans picked him up because Tate is dinged. These end of roster spots get rotated all the time based on injury so that you have enough players available to practice for the week. I don't think the guy is worthless. A fringe NFL player is an absolute monster, but that doesn't mean the Jets made a mistake cutting him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 He is a fringe player. He was on the Texans practice squad until the Jets needed him based on injury. When Powell started healing the cut him, probably to stash on the practice squad and the Texans picked him up because Tate is dinged. These end of roster spots get rotated all the time based on injury so that you have enough players available to practice for the week. I don't think the guy is worthless. A fringe NFL player is an absolute monster, but that doesn't mean the Jets made a mistake cutting him. But that does not mean he sucks as was portrayed in the argument above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 But that does not mean he sucks as was portrayed in the argument above. Depends who you are comparing him to. Remember, these are people that want to cut Greene and McKnight. OTOH, some of the same people can't understand how we let Woodhead, Clowney and/or Ratliff slip away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 Depends who you are comparing him to. Remember, these are people that want to cut Greene and McKnight. What you would expect from a #1 RB or a guy you spent a 4th round pick on is different than a depth player you got for free. And this guy had 2 carries one of which was for 5 yards. Behind our O-Line thats an accomplishment. I just felt he deserved little more opportunity before being discarded.Maybe we would have found a playmaker And our offense needs playmakers. Its not like we are lighting up the scoreboard so far this season! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirlancemehlot Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 And we let Jonathan Grimmes go away. Why ? couldn't pick up a blitz. too bad, he was a decent ball carrier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonehands Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 But that does not mean he sucks as was portrayed in the argument above. I am guessing you were a big Chauncey Washington fan, too? Except Chauncey was actually drafted and multiple teams have had interest in him, however his career yards from scrimmage remains at 9. Let's not get too carried away by these end of the roster guys. For every one that becomes Danny Woodhead there are thousands that become your next insurance broker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 couldn't pick up a blitz. too bad, he was a decent ball carrier Isn't that something that can be coached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsjetsjetss Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 Isn't that something that can be coached. well thats a loaded question lol. Anything can be coached man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 I am guessing you were a big Chauncey Washington fan, too? Except Chauncey was actually drafted and multiple teams have had interest in him, however his career yards from scrimmage remains at 9. Let's not get too carried away by these end of the roster guys. For every one that becomes Danny Woodhead there are thousands that become your next insurance broker. Wonder which team released Danny. Ahhh.....the irony! Still does not mean Grimmes sucks ? How can you say that. Most teams successes are based on having late draft or undrafted picks turning into impact players.Please refer to Colston, Arian Foster et al, And we are a team that at one point did not even have any 6th or 7th round players drafter even on the Practice Squad, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 well thats a loaded question lol. Anything can be coached man We do not have a lot of depth in this team in many areas. And in the Ground and Pound department which is what we advertise ourselves as we have lot of injuries and questionable depth and that too specially for next week's game. This sounds like the JETS wanted to save some salary during bye week and they let a player with a good chance of making an impact get away! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 What you would expect from a #1 RB or a guy you spent a 4th round pick on is different than a depth player you got for free. And this guy had 2 carries one of which was for 5 yards. Behind our O-Line thats an accomplishment. I just felt he deserved little more opportunity before being discarded.Maybe we would have found a playmaker And our offense needs playmakers. Its not like we are lighting up the scoreboard so far this season! That's the problem with this ****ing place. Everybody cares more about "what they expect" rather than what they get. The guy averaged 3.0 ypc and you want to act like he accomplished something while Greene is "useless" and the vast majority of the board wants him benched for the great unknown. To put it in perspective, Tebow is averaging almost a half yard more per carry this year. I wouldn't go so far as to say he sucks, but he is a fringe player. Other fringe players include Marcus Dowtin, Clyde Gates, Jason HIll, DJ Bryant and John Griffin. Of course, to most those guys suck too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsjetsjetss Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 We do not have a lot of depth in this team in many areas. And in the Ground and Pound department which is what we advertise ourselves as we have lot of injuries and questionable depth and that too specially for next week's game. This sounds like the JETS wanted to save some salary during bye week and they let a player with a good chance of making an impact get away! lol who knows if he was gonna make an impact. If every undrafted free agent we pick up turned out to be a hall of famer wed be a dynasty. We have enough rbs i think we could use a guy for the O line or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 That's the problem with this ****ing place. Everybody cares more about "what they expect" rather than what they get. The guy averaged 3.0 ypc and you want to act like he accomplished something while Greene is "useless" and the vast majority of the board wants him benched for the great unknown. To put it in perspective, Tebow is averaging almost a half yard more per carry this year. I wouldn't go so far as to say he sucks, but he is a fringe player. Other fringe players include Marcus Dowtin, Clyde Gates, Jason HIll, DJ Bryant and John Griffin. Of course, to most those guys suck too. That's the problem with this ****ing place. Nobody is able to answer the original question and then goes on a pointless ****ing rant! P.S: Clyde Gates led the team in receiving last game. Not too shabby from a fringe player! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 lol who knows if he was gonna make an impact. If every undrafted free agent we pick up turned out to be a hall of famer wed be a dynasty. We have enough rbs i think we could use a guy for the O line or something My original question was what makes people think he sucks ? The only decent answer i got is maybe because he was not able to pick up the blitz which can be coached by a motivated coaching staff. Specially if it gives you some game changing depth at a position which you advertise is important for your offense and a position that current players are suffering from or coming out of injury. The rest is just people going off tanget! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 That's the problem with this ****ing place. Nobody is able to answer the original question and then goes on a pointless ****ing rant! P.S: Clyde Gates led the team in receiving last game. Not too shabby from a fringe player! I don't think you know who you are fighting with. I have an almost 128 like appreciation for these fringe players. The problem is that you simply can't hold onto every one of them. If you keep Danny Woodhead you have to let somebody else go. Mike Devito and Brandon Moore were both this kind of player. OTOH, if you keep trying to hold onto those guys (think of Matt Kroul) you lose the chance to pick up guys like Maybin that can be very helpful. I like Clyde Gates, but you can't expect to keep Clyde Gates AND Grimes AND Woodhead AND etc, etc. FWIW, I think that the guy that we brought in is a 330lb G, Hayworth Hicks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirlancemehlot Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 I don't think you know who you are fighting with. I have an almost 128 like appreciation for these fringe players. The problem is that you simply can't hold onto every one of them. If you keep Danny Woodhead you have to let somebody else go. Mike Devito and Brandon Moore were both this kind of player. OTOH, if you keep trying to hold onto those guys (think of Matt Kroul) you lose the chance to pick up guys like Maybin that can be very helpful. I like Clyde Gates, but you can't expect to keep Clyde Gates AND Grimes AND Woodhead AND etc, etc. FWIW, I think that the guy that we brought in is a 330lb G, Hayworth Hicks. I rarely put stock in highlight reels, but that tape was very impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 I rarely put stock in highlight reels, but that tape was very impressive. I don't know much about him except that he was in the Colts camp and they had some vets and draft picks that were going to be tough to cut. I think he's been sitting on their practice squad until the Jets signed him today. Huge G prospect 6'2" 329. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 I don't think you know who you are fighting with. I have an almost 128 like appreciation for these fringe players. The problem is that you simply can't hold onto every one of them. If you keep Danny Woodhead you have to let somebody else go. Mike Devito and Brandon Moore were both this kind of player. OTOH, if you keep trying to hold onto those guys (think of Matt Kroul) you lose the chance to pick up guys like Maybin that can be very helpful. I like Clyde Gates, but you can't expect to keep Clyde Gates AND Grimes AND Woodhead AND etc, etc. FWIW, I think that the guy that we brought in is a 330lb G, Hayworth Hicks. All those things still things does mean Grimmes sucks. Which was my original question. I cannot see the youtube clipping because I am at work so do not know what its about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 All those things still things does mean Grimmes sucks. Which was my original question. I cannot see the youtube clipping because I am at work so do not know what its about. My answer is compared to Greene he sucks. As a football player he is a fringe guy. The YouTube clip is just footage of the G they signed. It doesn't prove anything. Just to give a look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 I don't think you know who you are fighting with. I have an almost 128 like appreciation for these fringe players. The problem is that you simply can't hold onto every one of them. If you keep Danny Woodhead you have to let somebody else go. Mike Devito and Brandon Moore were both this kind of player. OTOH, if you keep trying to hold onto those guys (think of Matt Kroul) you lose the chance to pick up guys like Maybin that can be very helpful. I like Clyde Gates, but you can't expect to keep Clyde Gates AND Grimes AND Woodhead AND etc, etc. FWIW, I think that the guy that we brought in is a 330lb G, Hayworth Hicks. I agree with you so much that the ground just shook. Hayworth Hicks actually does look very interesting. Alpha male on the OL from that highlight package, as brother bitoni might say. Perhaps he can rise from arsith to warrior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 I agree with you so much that the ground just shook. Hayworth Hicks actually does look very interesting. Alpha male on the OL from that highlight package, as brother bitoni might say. Perhaps he can rise from arsith to warrior. That alpha male comment is funny cause the T got drafted and was considered a better prospect, but Hicks was their player of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 My answer is compared to Greene he sucks. As a football player he is a fringe guy. The YouTube clip is just footage of the G they signed. It doesn't prove anything. Just to give a look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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