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Posted 13 November 2012 - 10:31 AM

Patriots' Brady: Jets whiffed on Woodhead

Tom Brady hardly shies away from taking a shot at the Jets, and he took a soft swipe at his AFC East rivals again yesterday during his weekly radio spot in Boston.

Talking to WEEI, the Patriots quarterback was reveling in the talent of his teammate Danny Woodhead, whom the Jets released two years ago. Woodhead scored twice in the Patriots’ 37-31 victory over the Bills on Sunday, the 5-foot-8 running back catching one touchdown and running for another.“I remember his first game,” Brady said. “We kind of joked on the sideline, [former Patriots offensive coordinator Bill O’Brien] and I, we kind of said, ‘The legend is born.’ We saw him that week in practice, what he was capable of doing, and said, ‘Why did the Jets release that guy?’ They had him playing receiver and he was a running back in college.”

This season, Woodhead is second on the Patriots with 49 carries and fourth on the team with 23 catches. He has played a big role in the offense, ranked first in the NFL, averaging 430.3 yards per game.“He’s just come in and done such a great job,” Brady said. “He’s the ultimate team player and teammate — dependable, consistent, you always know the level of play you’re getting from Danny. He had a huge game [Sunday] for us. We really needed it, because as an offense, I’d say everyone really didn’t have their best day but Danny. He really saved the day for us.”

Woodhead won the Harlon Hill Trophy as the best player in Division II college football while at Chadron State, and the Jets signed him as an undrafted free agent in 2009. He played in a total of 12 games for them (including two playoff games), running the ball 15 times and catching 10 passes.

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 10:35 AM

Cameron Wake - “Prior to the 2009 season the Jets scouting department wanted Cameron Wake badly and the team was in a position to sign him, Tannenbaum personally overruled the move and said he didn’t want him.”
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Posted 13 November 2012 - 10:36 AM

Yeah. The Jets really didn't recognize his talent. I mean when they were the only team that signed him when he was an UDFA. When they kept him around after he had reconstructive knee surgery. When the other teams all let him sit on the Jets practice squad, the Jets certainly were the one and only team that didn't realize he could be a player.
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Posted 13 November 2012 - 10:36 AM

A Mangini find. Belichick knew this and swooped him up. How did that work out for the NEP's

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 10:48 AM

In Analyzing Jets’ Failings, Start at the Top
  • Contrary to popular belief, the Jets have not been mathematically eliminated from postseason contention. It only feels like it. Their 28-7 loss to Seattle dropped the Jets to 3-6 and into 11th place in the 16-team A.F.C. The notion that they could surge toward the playoffs over the next seven games is based entirely on other teams, not on the quality of their own play.
The list of culprits is lengthy: Mark Sanchez, Rex Ryan and Mike Tannenbaum, to name a few. If the Jets continue to fade, there are bound to be repercussions, and those three will most likely bear the brunt. But in a season that is quickly spiraling away, there is plenty of blame to go around.

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By the day, the situation grows less and less sustainable. The trade for Tim Tebow has been a debacle. His presence is a distraction. That is indisputable, and perhaps the most damning assessment of this failed experiment came after Sunday’s game, from Mark Sanchez.“It’s something that we’re all just getting used to,”Sanchez said.So, to sum up: the Jets acquired Tebow in March, and after a full training camp and nine regular-season games they are no closer to knowing how and when to deploy him than they were eight months ago.A resolution satisfying for all parties seems impractical.The evidence suggests that Tebow is more afterthought than asset, making it hard to believe that Rex Ryan fully endorsed the trade. Perhaps he was aware that obtaining a backup with his own constituency, with a fervent fan following, might undermine Sanchez.It took some intense self-scouting during the bye week for the Jets to glean that maybe, just maybe, Tebow might be a boon on third-and-1. Or that asking him to throw a few passes instead of just bulling up the middle might open up the offense a bit, forcing teams to account for that possibility.

However, if the Jets really trusted Tebow, he would have more than six pass attempts. He poses no genuine threat to Sanchez, who with every loss invalidates the Jets’ longstanding defense of him. Ryan and Tannenbaum used to point to the number of games Sanchez has won. Not anymore. With Sanchez, they have now lost 9 of their last 12.Ryan often says that he makes decisions for the good of the team. It is fair to deduce that the Jets believe that Tebow would perform worse than Sanchez. There is no other possible conclusion.Several mistakes Sanchez continues to make are unconscionable for a fourth-year quarterback. He has eight fumbles, two shy of his career high, many from holding onto the ball too long. Of his nine interceptions, four have come in the red zone, the latest on Sunday. “That’s a rookie move by a veteran player who knows better,” Sanchez said Monday. He has amassed no better than a 46.7 completion percentage in five of nine games. It is hardly coincidental that Sanchez’s two best games this season — against Buffalo and New England — came against two of the N.F.L.’s worst defenses. Of the Jets’ seven remaining opponents, four (Buffalo, Jacksonville, Tennessee and New England) rank among the bottom eight. It would be more than a bit discouraging if Sanchez cannot rebound against them.

Rex Ryan

Make no mistake, Ryan was angry Sunday. His eyes were red. His voice cracked. But he was also frustrated and deflated, looking very much like a coach who knows that his team is not good enough but is unsure what else he can do.“That never crosses your mind as a coach,” Ryan said Monday, but here it is, nine games into the season, and the Jets are no better than they were last season and, for the most part, are even worse.Ryan has learned from his errors, becoming more involved with his players and regaining the pulse of the locker room. It is, on the whole, a much tighter group than last season. But his players, however inadvertently, have all but ignored the coaches’ pleas, making the same brand of mistakes for the last 14 months.The Jets commit too many turnovers. They do not tackle well. They do not execute. When Ryan bemoans how the offensive ineptitude extends beyond Sanchez, he is not merely spreading blame among the line, running backs and receivers. Also included is the first-year coordinator Tony Sparano, who replaced Brian Schottenheimer. The disconnect between Schottenheimer’s philosophy and Ryan’s — a stout running game, a vertical passing offense predicated on play-action and the occasional Wildcat formation — was too vast to overcome. But the Jets’ performance so far might make fans yearn for Schottenheimer, who holds the same job in St. Louis, where the Jets visit this week.

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Through Sunday, the Jets rank 24th in points (19.4); 25th in first downs (18.1); 30th in yardage (302.7) and yards per play (4.8); and 32nd, perhaps, in inventiveness and creativity. Against Seattle, they gained a paltry 3.7 yards a play. They had two weeks to prepare for the Seahawks and could not score an offensive touchdown. Imagine if they had only one week.The average margin of victory in the Jets’ six losses has been 17 points, a clear indication that they are not of playoff timbre, despite their public proclamations to the contrary. Some of them, at least. Ryan, at times, has been a walking contradiction. Last Monday, he said that his team was not even “sniffing” the playoffs; two days later he asserted that a postseason berth was in reach. His bluster doubled as a great motivating tool his first two years, in part because the team could back it up. The Jets were more talented then. When he promises victory now, as he practically did before their overtime loss to New England, the words reek of dramatic irony: as if everyone but Ryan, and the organization, knows the truth.

Mike Tannenbaum

In April, about a week before the draft, Tannenbaum cited several players living on the fringe of the roster. One of them was guard Caleb Schlauderaff, who Tannenbaum suggested was a candidate to become the next Jeremy Lin. Schlauderaff has been active for two of nine games. He has yet to take the field for a snap.If Tannenbaum actually believed what he said seven months ago, it is no wonder how the Jets’ talent base has eroded. The team’s 11-14 record since the beginning of last season reflects a flawed approach to building the roster. Swapping draft choices for players has cost depth; in four drafts with Ryan as the coach, the Jets have made 21 picks, tying them with New Orleans for fewest in the N.F.L. They have overvalued some players and misjudged others, mostly on offense, where Tannenbaum’s acquisitions — or, in some cases, lack of them — are most glaring.Seemingly minor moves have backfired, including their failure to adequately replace the valuable backup lineman Rob Turner after his season-ending leg injury in the 2011 preseason. But so have major ones: waiting too long to address the right tackle position, opting not to obtain a proven receiver and, in what appears a gross miscalculation, extending Sanchez’s contract. Instead of improving in his fourth season,Sanchez has regressed.By guaranteeing the $8.75 million he is owed in 2013,the Jets are all but committed to bringing him back next season.The fans may revolt if Sanchez returns without genuine competition for the starting job.Still, it is not as if a rotating cast of receivers has helped Sanchez. Even before Santonio Holmes was lost for the season in Week 4, that group was unproven and inexperienced. Now, with Clyde Gates and Jason Hill and despite the emergence of Jeremy Kerley, it is less appealing than overcooked broccoli.

Compounding those troubles is the responsibility they have heaped on a project like Stephen Hill, their second-round draft pick.It may yet prove shrewd,but their expectation that he contribute immediately, after they chose not to add another veteran receiver to account for his inevitable adjustment, is, at best, misguided and, perhaps, downright foolish.At least Hill has kept his roster spot. Of the 67 players on the roster, a group that includes the practice squad and injured reserve, 37.3 percent (25) were acquired through the draft, the fourth-lowest percentage in the N.F.L., according to the Elias Sports Bureau.Stockpiling homegrown players is not a harbinger of success; Tennessee has the fourth most, at 52.1 percent, yet has not reached the playoffs since 2008. But it is more than a bit revealing that the perennial postseason teams Pittsburgh (56.9) and Green Bay (52.9) have the highest percentages, with the rising powers Atlanta (52.2) and San Francisco (51.6) rounding out the top five.

Woody Johnson

During the election cycle, Johnson, a major backer of Mitt Romney, regularly mixed football with politics. His comments on the presidential race were largely innocuous. His remarks about the Jets were usually provocative. He chose country over the team he owns when asked on Bloomberg TV in October whether he would rather the Jets have a winning season or Romney move into the White House.He has said he expected Tebow to remain with the team for the duration of his contract, through 2014. He admitted surprise that their acquisition of Tebow attracted significant news media coverage. A week before the season he said, “I think you can never have too much Tebow.”The sporadic usage of Tebow has only reinforced the notion that his acquisition was not unanimously endorsed, fueling the belief that it was, after the Jets’ own miserable 2011 season and a Giants Super Bowl title, a publicity stunt, a trade to change the conversation.

Which it did — for a brief while. Since Johnson authorizes Tannenbaum to add players, he is also accountable for the talent drain. Tannenbaum is among the league’s most aggressive general managers, and given an opportunity — and the resources — he will make splashy deals. Despite several areas of need, the Jets were bit players in free agency. They are living with the consequences.

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 10:52 AM

Yeah. The Jets really didn't recognize his talent. I mean when they were the only team that signed him when he was an UDFA. When they kept him around after he had reconstructive knee surgery. When the other teams all let him sit on the Jets practice squad, the Jets certainly were the one and only team that didn't realize he could be a player.


That is fair and true.

I would be more concerned, if true, why were the Jets using him as a receiver?
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Posted 13 November 2012 - 10:55 AM

Danny Woodhead would have no use on this team. Sanchez would over throw his little shrimp ass by 10 feet.
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Posted 13 November 2012 - 11:01 AM

Woodhead isn't an impact player. He's a player that is a chance of pace from impact players. The Jets have none of those.
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Posted 13 November 2012 - 11:11 AM

That is fair and true.

I would be more concerned, if true, why were the Jets using him as a receiver?


It was true. The Jets had Greene and LT/Thomas Jones. They had some injuries at WR and didn't have an effective slot WR from when they traded Stuckey until they drafted Kerley. Woodhead was used to replicate Welker during Pats week drills and supposedly was good so they tried him there when they were short due to injuries. They were primarily looking to save a roster spot and keep Woodhead over Clowney who was the de facto #3/#4 WR. It made perfect sense and even with the Pats he spends more time running routes than running the ball. His 3.7 ypc don't scream effective RB to me.
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Posted 13 November 2012 - 11:18 AM

That is fair and true.

I would be more concerned, if true, why were the Jets using him as a receiver?


Other than the fact that they weren't, I am not sure.
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Posted 13 November 2012 - 11:36 AM

Patriots' Brady: Jets whiffed on Woodhead

Tom Brady hardly shies away from taking a shot at the Jets, and he took a soft swipe at his AFC East rivals again yesterday during his weekly radio spot in Boston.

Talking to WEEI, the Patriots quarterback was reveling in the talent of his teammate Danny Woodhead, whom the Jets released two years ago. Woodhead scored twice in the Patriots’ 37-31 victory over the Bills on Sunday, the 5-foot-8 running back catching one touchdown and running for another.“I remember his first game,” Brady said. “We kind of joked on the sideline, [former Patriots offensive coordinator Bill O’Brien] and I, we kind of said, ‘The legend is born.’ We saw him that week in practice, what he was capable of doing, and said, ‘Why did the Jets release that guy?’ They had him playing receiver and he was a running back in college.”

This season, Woodhead is second on the Patriots with 49 carries and fourth on the team with 23 catches. He has played a big role in the offense, ranked first in the NFL, averaging 430.3 yards per game.“He’s just come in and done such a great job,” Brady said. “He’s the ultimate team player and teammate — dependable, consistent, you always know the level of play you’re getting from Danny. He had a huge game [Sunday] for us. We really needed it, because as an offense, I’d say everyone really didn’t have their best day but Danny. He really saved the day for us.”

Woodhead won the Harlon Hill Trophy as the best player in Division II college football while at Chadron State, and the Jets signed him as an undrafted free agent in 2009. He played in a total of 12 games for them (including two playoff games), running the ball 15 times and catching 10 passes.

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 11:45 AM

Other than the fact that they weren't, I am not sure.

It was true. The Jets had Greene and LT/Thomas Jones. They had some injuries at WR and didn't have an effective slot WR from when they traded Stuckey until they drafted Kerley. Woodhead was used to replicate Welker during Pats week drills and supposedly was good so they tried him there when they were short due to injuries. They were primarily looking to save a roster spot and keep Woodhead over Clowney who was the de facto #3/#4 WR. It made perfect sense and even with the Pats he spends more time running routes than running the ball. His 3.7 ypc don't scream effective RB to me.


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Posted 13 November 2012 - 11:55 AM

They tried him at slot. I'm not sure if he every actually played there, but he even switched to #83 because he was being used at WR. It was more of a practice thing and it might have been because Holmes was on suspension which was probably why they eventually picked up Clowney over him the week the Pats signed him.
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Posted 13 November 2012 - 12:48 PM

They tried him at slot. I'm not sure if he every actually played there, but he even switched to #83 because he was being used at WR. It was more of a practice thing and it might have been because Holmes was on suspension which was probably why they eventually picked up Clowney over him the week the Pats signed him.


NY Post is obviously desperate for news.

The Patriots needed him because Faulk was injured. The Jets had plenty of option at RB (LT, McKnight) and WR.

I am sure plenty of teams would love to keep the hard working, over achieving, outside the specs player, but you are only allocated so many roster spots.
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Posted 13 November 2012 - 12:51 PM

You guys crack me up. Now you guys try to cover yourselves by blaming Rex or Tanny when in reality you were the idiots who were saying he was slow, weak, etc.
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Posted 13 November 2012 - 12:55 PM

In April, about a week before the draft, Tannenbaum cited several players living on the fringe of the roster. One of them was guard Caleb Schlauderaff, who Tannenbaum suggested was a candidate to become the next Jeremy Lin.


Actually, it was the next Victor Cruz.
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Posted 13 November 2012 - 01:02 PM

The JETS have really got into Brady's head. He is not even focusing on next week's opponent and already thrash talking about his matchup wit the JETS the following week!
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Posted 13 November 2012 - 01:08 PM

Brady's trolling the Jets now?
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Posted 13 November 2012 - 01:22 PM

You guys crack me up. Now you guys try to cover yourselves by blaming Rex or Tanny when in reality you were the idiots who were saying he was slow, weak, etc.


Not me bro. I loved me some Danny woodhead. Couldn't figure out why we moved up for joe McKnight when we already had that little beast on the team capable of handling that role. But hey, at least we gave him away for nothing and spent two draft picks for a player with less impact and character to take his place.
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Posted 13 November 2012 - 01:31 PM

Actually, it was the next Victor Cruz.


I would take either one at this point.
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Posted 13 November 2012 - 01:33 PM

Woodhead. Wake. Wilson. Wins. Maybe Tannenbaum has a thing against W's.
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(Chandler)'s a nice piece as long as he's the 7th most important player on your roster....I think they're going to be disappointed when they see he's just a pumped-up Drew Gooden.


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Posted 13 November 2012 - 01:44 PM

Woodhead is average. The Jets did not utilize his talents properly. Right now they could use an average player or two.
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Posted 13 November 2012 - 02:03 PM

Woodhead. Wake. Wilson. Wins. Maybe Tannenbaum has a thing against W's.


John Abraham is still playing football, still racking up the sacks. Sigh.
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Posted 13 November 2012 - 04:58 PM

The JETS have really got into Brady's head. He is not even focusing on next week's opponent and already thrash talking about his matchup wit the JETS the following week!


Sounds more like a reporter asked him about Woodhead.
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Posted 13 November 2012 - 05:00 PM

John Abraham is still playing football, still racking up the sacks. Sigh.


Just so you know, your actions this past week are the greatest turn I've seen since Hulk Hogan joined the NWO on prime time national television. It's been that big of a deal for me.
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