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[sirlancemehlot]

Rex took over Mangini's offense. A top Oline, top running game, decent recieving corps, quality locker room. Mediocre defense. For two years he was successful with Mangini guys on the team. Then the dismantling began. The lcoker room was purged of character and replaced with talent. Troublesome, loudmouth talent. And the locker room was "divided" to the point where LaDainian Tomlinson called the "worst he's ever seen". Cotchery splits early on. He's replaced with Mason, or Plaxico, depending how you look at it. Woodhead becomes McKnight. Holmes is made Captain. Thomas Jones becomes Shonn Greene. Shaun Ellis becomes...gulp...Xerxes. And we draft badly.

Similarities include both coaches being saddled with QB's they never wanted: Favre/Tebow in order to sell PSL's.

Mangini is 8-4 before the Favre nose-dive. Loses his job over it.

Rex bets the house on Mark Sanchez. And the offense goes from good to bad as the offense disintigrates.

Mangini Drafts: D'Brick, Mangold, Eric Smith, Brad Smith, Leon Washington, Drew Coleman,Revis, David Harris Chansi Stuckey, Keller. Gholston was a bad pick but we that same year we signed Faneca, Pace, Woody, T-Rich, Jenkins and...Favre.

Rex picks: Sanchez, Greene, Slauson, Wilson, Ducasse, McKnight, Connor, Wilkerson, Ellis, Powell, Kerley McElroy FA: Holmes, Cromartie, Shlauderaff, Scott, Leonard

Mangini inherited a 4-12 team and took thento 10-6, back to 4-12, then to 9-7
Rex inherited a 9-7 team and went 9-7, 11-5, 8-8, ?

So. Obviously Tannenbaum is bad at football stuff. But setting him aside, who would you rather have building your team going forward? For me, its not that obvious an answer.

Edited by sirlancemehlot, 14 November 2012 - 05:03 PM.

[Integrity28]

Personally I think they both sucked.

Mangini was propped up by the veterans he inherited from Herm, specifically Pennington, in his first year. Both Mangini and Schotty were propelled by Favre (while healthy) in the 3rd year, but Favre blew off his offensive coaching and Mangini still put forward a bottom half of the league defense.

Rex was propped up by the veterans he inherited from Mangini, guys like Ellis, T-Rich, the entire O-line, and most of the defenders. He was also propelled by circumstance, they lucked their way into the playoffs once and let bravado carry them to a loss in the AFCC game. The next year was legit, then they let bravado undermine them in the AFCC game vs. the Steelers. The veterans moved on, and this team went to sh*t quickly.

Neither is a very good head coach.

I really do wish Woody had called Cowher, still. I also wish we'd have gone after Kubiak back before Arian Foster emerged and Wade Phillips made that defense nasty, there was a point where Kubiak was on the hot seat big time in Houston. Now they are contenders, legit.

[#27TheDominator]

LOL at Mangini's offense.

[THE ILK]

Rex is revolutionizing the game!

[AirForceJetFan]

As pissed as I am with this team right now...I take Rex over Mangini every time. He was another BB disciple who thought he'd achieved something in the league but he was nothing but a towel boy who got a job by association. How'd he do in Cleveland?

[Smashmouth]

Mangini as GM yes HC no

Rex is a joke

[jack48]

I think Rex has been dung the past two years. But he won 4 playoff games!!!l Norv Turner loses with talent twice as good as Rex. Marty Schottenheimer could have an NFL All-Star team and he would lose somewhere short of the Super Bowl. Whatever players he inherited he got 4 playoff wins out of them. I think he can coach. His problem is he refuses to manage the locker room, or to learn anything about offensive football. That is like a heart surgeon saying he knows hearts but not lungs. Rex probably should not be in charge.

[slats]

If the Jets were getting even average QB play, this thread wouldn't exist.

[afosomf]

If the Jets were getting even average QB play, this thread wouldn't exist.

Umm rex has option to play tebow or gmac mon

[JetsFanInDenver]

Rex as a HC still has been one of the tops in this teams history so far.

Now even if he had a QB that was middle of the pack and an owner that did not foist a Tebow on his team this team with even the current level of talent and all the injuries would still be competing for the playoffs!

[CrazyCarl40]

If the Jets were getting even average QB play, this thread wouldn't exist.

Wrong. This team as currently constructed needs ABOVE average QB play to be any kind of good team. You need a QB that can make jags into stars and porous offensive lines into champions. There aren't many QBs like that out there and certainly not one on this roster, available next season in free agency or available in the draft. We're screwed.

[slats]

Umm rex has option to play tebow or gmac mon

That's really not an option.

[The Crusher]

If the Jets were getting even average QB play, this thread wouldn't exist.

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[afosomf]

That's really not an option.

why isnt it?, tebow beat Pitt in playoffs and GMac led team to only TD drive in pre-season

[SouthernJet]

That's really not an option.

why?? Politics??

I would like to see McElroy. I think he has better awareness and isnt rattled as easily.
Keep Tebow for Wildcat if you want, but Sanchez needs to hold the clipboard.

[slats]

Crush, just because the Jets' QBs collectively and individually suck doesn't mean that the rest of the offensive skill players don't suck, too. I like Kerley, and I'd give Hill a chance to grow, but the rest of them... ?

I'm hoping Tannenbaum gets canned. It's the only hope. If Rex has to go, too, then so be it, but I'd rather he get a chance under someone capable of bringing in talent.

[slats]

why?? Politics??

I would like to see McElroy. I think he has better awareness and isnt rattled as easily.
Keep Tebow for Wildcat if you want, but Sanchez needs to hold the clipboard.

They see these QBs everyday. Does Sanchez' contract play a role? Yeah, I'm certain it plays a large one. But I'm also pretty confident that what they see in their other two QBs is a factor, too.

[The Crusher]

Crush, just because the Jets' QBs collectively and individually suck doesn't mean that the rest of the offensive skill players don't suck, too. I like Kerley, and I'd give Hill a chance to grow, but the rest of them... ?

I'm hoping Tannenbaum gets canned. It's the only hope. If Rex has to go, too, then so be it, but I'd rather he get a chance under someone capable of bringing in talent.

To a point. But great QB play sometimes turns turds into world beaters. Do you think Victor Cruz would have been the same guy if he was playing with Sanchez? I don;t.

[slats]

To a point. But great QB play sometimes turns turds into world beaters. Do you think Victor Cruz would have been the same guy if he was playing with Sanchez? I don;t.

Nope, me either.

First step in the new talent hunt should be a QB, just saying they shouldn't stop there.

[CrazyCarl40]

Nope, me either.

First step in the new talent hunt should be a QB, just saying they shouldn't stop there.

We can start that hunt in 2014! Hooray!