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#41 glenn212

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 06:10 AM

Rex took the JETS to 2 AFC championships with Mangini's guys!


No one is benching Favre when the guy a a continuous game record in tact, plus it was Brett Favre, anyone who
said they would of benched him is full of crap.

Lets not forget Rex's 1st year he was gifted into the playoffs when
Indy and I think Tennessee both played the JV's..Indy would have buried the Jets that year.

Rex's 1st 2 years he had 75% of Mangini's roster and 60% of his coaches. Why they didn't
offer to pay Bill Callahan a fortune to stay at O line coach is beyond me.

Rex can coach X's and O's no one disputes this., but when you bring in and draft guys
with character issues and allow them to run off at the mouth this is what you going to get.

Mangini was young when he was here but this kind of crap would never happen under his watch.
Its comedy tragic theater now.

The ship has sailed on reigning these guys in, just the comment on Tebow, a player on your team just trying to earn a living shows you how unprofessional this has gotten

Rex being the gambler bet the house on Sanchez..and sadly.................................

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 06:21 AM

I personally wanted to see Mangini get another year, but understood his firing.

I don't think either is a great HC.

I think Mangini had a much better plan for the franchise, and was executing his plan, whether it would have ever yielded big results, who knows.

I think Rex is a better defensive mind than Mangini, but as I have said over and over again, he is not a leader of a franchise, and you cannot ignore the offense as he has done.

The drafting and personnel decisions speak for themselves between the two guys, pretty much same FO around them.

If not for the Gholston bust, Mangini's years drafting and FA pickups would have been considered incredible, but even with, were still very good.

For me, I would take Mangini over Rex any day of the week.

Rex is a clown. He was a change of pace explosive type guy who yielded good results with a lot of luck his first 2 years, but that is done, and he has lost this team for good.

He must go now!

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 07:44 AM

Rex can be an excellent head coach, as long as he's part of a solid organization. If the Jets had a strong GM in charge, who understood talent evaluation and simply got the best players and told Rex to coach them, Rex would be much better off. Rex is a very smart football guy, but he's also an emotional guy who lets his emotions cloud his decisions.

Mangini is on TV not because he sucks so much as because he's a black-balled rat. He should be an assistant GM somewhere, but he's a rat.
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 08:06 AM

Rex can be an excellent head coach, as long as he's part of a solid organization. If the Jets had a strong GM in charge, who understood talent evaluation and simply got the best players and told Rex to coach them, Rex would be much better off. Rex is a very smart football guy, but he's also an emotional guy who lets his emotions cloud his decisions.

Mangini is on TV not because he sucks so much as because he's a black-balled rat. He should be an assistant GM somewhere, but he's a rat.


where is the evidence that rexey is a smart football guy?

Knows diddly about offense and ST's, and his defenses have gotten worse each yr he has been here. I think Rexey killed Robbie's chances at being a HC, and i dont think Robbie
is anything special either, their pops was for sure.

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 08:14 AM

where is the evidence that rexey is a smart football guy?

Knows diddly about offense and ST's, and his defenses have gotten worse each yr he has been here. I think Rexey killed Robbie's chances at being a HC, and i dont think Robbie
is anything special either, their pops was for sure.


Last year was the first year, either here or in Baltimore, where Rex's defense finished outside of the top six in the league. Find me another coach on either side of the ball who's had a similar seven year run if you want to say Rex isn't a smart football guy. The man knows football, especially defensive football.
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 08:38 AM

Last year was the first year, either here or in Baltimore, where Rex's defense finished outside of the top six in the league. Find me another coach on either side of the ball who's had a similar seven year run if you want to say Rex isn't a smart football guy. The man knows football, especially defensive football.


Yep. And even the people who rip Rex in the media admit he's a solid defense guy. Far better than Mangini, who coached both sides of the ball poorly.

Rex will probably want another HC job when he's done here, but he should settle for a DC job with a solid organization and, if possible, a good QB on the other side.

Either way, he'll be in football next year. He won't be a TV analyst like Mangini. Though if Rex WERE to become a TV analyst, it would probably be good entertainment. No matter what we say now, the 2010 season of Hard Knocks was some of the funniest television I've ever seen.

Edited by Jetsfan80, 15 November 2012 - 08:41 AM.

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 08:46 AM

Yep. And even the people who rip Rex in the media admit he's a solid defense guy. Far better than Mangini, who coached both sides of the ball poorly.

Rex will probably want another HC job when he's done here, but he should settle for a DC job with a solid organization and, if possible, a good QB on the other side.

Either way, he'll be in football next year. He won't be a TV analyst like Mangini. Though if Rex WERE to become a TV analyst, it would probably be good entertainment. No matter what we say now, the 2010 season of Hard Knocks was some of the funniest television I've ever seen.


Just a couple of weeks ago, you were calling fans that wanted the head of Rex, stupid.

Imagine where you will be with a couple more weeks of this.
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 08:47 AM

Just a couple of weeks ago, you were calling fans that wanted the head of Rex, stupid.

Imagine where you will be with a couple more weeks of this.


I also admitted that, if he were to be done here after this, it will be because of his support of Mark Sanchez, not because he's a poor coach. You've maintained otherwise.

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 08:53 AM

Last year was the first year, either here or in Baltimore, where Rex's defense finished outside of the top six in the league. Find me another coach on either side of the ball who's had a similar seven year run if you want to say Rex isn't a smart football guy. The man knows football, especially defensive football.


He's definitely a good x and o guy defensively, but IMO that does not by itself make him a good football guy.

I think he is terrible with personnel assessment, and cannot manage or lead a locker

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 10:04 AM

He's definitely a good x and o guy defensively, but IMO that does not by itself make him a good football guy.

I think he is terrible with personnel assessment, and cannot manage or lead a locker


Jets could do a lot worse than having a quality x and o guy as the head coach. See: Edwards, Herm; Mangini, Eric.

As I said, personnel assessment shouldn't be his job. He should be working for a strong GM. As for the locker room, I think he overestimated his abilities there. The Jets brought in too many malcontents. There's a happy medium between Mangini's boy scouts and this motley crew, they need to find it.
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 10:14 AM

Mangini was 8-3 before Favre's arm fell off. He got fired for not benching Favre.


Lol @ you sometimes. You're like JN's O'Reilly.

(Chandler)'s a nice piece as long as he's the 7th most important player on your roster....I think they're going to be disappointed when they see he's just a pumped-up Drew Gooden.


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Posted 15 November 2012 - 10:20 AM

Lol @ you sometimes. You're like JN's O'Reilly.



I take this as a high compliment, my friend. :lol:
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 10:26 AM

Yep. And even the people who rip Rex in the media admit he's a solid defense guy. Far better than Mangini, who coached both sides of the ball poorly.

Rex will probably want another HC job when he's done here, but he should settle for a DC job with a solid organization and, if possible, a good QB on the other side.

Either way, he'll be in football next year. He won't be a TV analyst like Mangini. Though if Rex WERE to become a TV analyst, it would probably be good entertainment. No matter what we say now, the 2010 season of Hard Knocks was some of the funniest television I've ever seen.


That was a great season, period. All around. It was exciting. We had some big wins. The team was fun to watch. Sadly, 2010 was probably my favorite year ever as a Jets fan.

Overall, I agree with Slats. Put Rex in a solid organization who's interest is winning and not publicity, he'd be a great coach. The fact he's been able to win at all with Mark Sanchez is a testament to that, let alone his consistency on D.

Fans are just very short sided. Tomlin's considered a great coach. You honestly think Rex couldnt win a SB with that team? Please. He took the ****ing Jets and Mark Sanchez to a game from it 2 years in a row. Give him Big Ben and that front office and lets talk.

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 11:23 AM

"And even the people who rip Rex in the media admit he's a solid defense guy. Far better than Mangini"

Thats laughable..People in the media..Who like Mike Greenberg..
Mangini drafted to ALL PRO guys..Harris and Revis and Mangini moved up to draft Harris
Who by the way makes about every freakin tackle..Unlike overpaid Bart Scott who sucks

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 02:44 PM

Rex thinks the offense is definitely improving. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Clueless bafoon.
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 02:56 PM

Jets could do a lot worse than having a quality x and o guy as the head coach. See: Edwards, Herm; Mangini, Eric.

As I said, personnel assessment shouldn't be his job. He should be working for a strong GM. As for the locker room, I think he overestimated his abilities there. The Jets brought in too many malcontents. There's a happy medium between Mangini's boy scouts and this motley crew, they need to find it.


Rex has lost total control of what players say to the media., how they act towards each other and has bickering and infighting.

Other than that, he has been a great leader. Let's see-You get "C". You get a "C". You get a "C" and you get a "C". Now that our team leadership is taken care of, shall we talk about strategy?
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 07:17 PM

I think Tanny and Mangini were better with personnel decisions, minus Gholston.

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 07:38 PM

"And even the people who rip Rex in the media admit he's a solid defense guy. Far better than Mangini"

Thats laughable..People in the media..Who like Mike Greenberg..
Mangini drafted to ALL PRO guys..Harris and Revis and Mangini moved up to draft Harris
Who by the way makes about every freakin tackle..Unlike overpaid Bart Scott who sucks


David Harris is the most overrated player the Jets have had in the past 5-6 years. He is also probably the most overpaid non-QB in the entire NFL.

Another genius move by the front office. $30M guaranteed to David freaking Harris. Ugh.

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 07:45 PM

David Harris is the most overrated player the Jets have had in the past 5-6 years. He is also probably the most overpaid non-QB in the entire NFL.

Another genius move by the front office. $30M guaranteed to David freaking Harris. Ugh.


Spermy, you are a smart guy and I respect your football intellect, but minus David Harris this year the Jets
franchise would have set a record for rushing yards given up..no lie.. Bart got Rex to give him a" buddy" contract
and he makes like 3 tackles a game and is the lead s**t talker and he certainly isn't backing it up..Agree to disagree on DH.

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 08:09 PM

Last year was the first year, either here or in Baltimore, where Rex's defense finished outside of the top six in the league. Find me another coach on either side of the ball who's had a similar seven year run if you want to say Rex isn't a smart football guy. The man knows football, especially defensive football.


Wait, but seriously, who are the supposed "bad guys" that the media keeps saying we have in such abundance?

I'm not seeing what the rest of you are seeing - obviously. Most rosters have a few criminals. Who are ours? Kenrick Ellis, charges dropped? Santonio Holmes, smoking too much weed?

I get that Holmes is a jackass, but I can't really think of anyone else that stands out, and 1/53 ain't bad.

People might have said this type of stuff about Cromartie before the season, and yeah he's vapid, but it's clear that guy wants to win. He made that boast that he's the best corner left in the league (sans Revis) and actually delivered on it. He was probably top 30 in most people's books in the pre-season, but now he's playing like a top 3-5. He's stepped it up.

So who are the bad guys here?

Edited by stoicsentry, 15 November 2012 - 08:11 PM.





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