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will schottenheimer get revenge on jets ? ? ?


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#1 kelly

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 06:56 PM

will schottenheimer get revenge on jets ? ? ?

Remember Brian Schottenheimer ?

He was the former New York Jets offensive coordinator who shouldered most of the blame for the team's downfall and eventual implosion last year. The Jets finished 25th in total offense and it cost Schottenheimer his job. He eventually landed with the St. Louis Rams, while New York hired Tony Sparano in place of "Schotty."One year later, the Jets’ offense remains in shambles. Quarterback Mark Sanchez has regressed under Sparano and the Tim Tebow experiment is a bust. New York’s offense is ranked 30th entering Week 11 -- five spots lower than Schottenheimer’s group last season.The Jets will meet their former scapegoat Sunday when the Rams (3-5-1) host the Jets (3-6). It will be a chance for Schottenheimer to get revenge and send his old team further into the abyss.

"My impressions, he’s doing an outstanding job," said Rams head coach Jeff Fisher on a conference call Wednesday. "I was very excited initially that he was available. We hit the ground running and he’s been a big influence of the early turnaround of this football team."St. Louis is not an offensive juggernaut. The Rams are 19th in passing and 12th in rushing in Schottenheimer’s first year. They certainly appear to have a few more pieces offensively than New York with quarterback Sam Bradford, receiver Danny Amendola and the dual running threat of Steven Jackson and Daryl Richardson.Most importantly, Fisher said Schottenheimer has a good rapport with his players. Things seemed to sour with Schottenheimer in New York last year, particularly with Sanchez."He has a great relationship with Sam," Fisher explained. "The two of them have spent a lot of time together. Sam has a very good feel for what we’re trying to do. Brian and Sam are on the same page all the time during the ballgame. I think Sam is only going to get better and better."

Schottenheimer will get his chance to kick the Jets while they’re down this weekend.
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Posted 14 November 2012 - 07:00 PM

his guys will be fired up

he knows to attack the jets LB's with TE's

if you play fantasy, trade for those TE's
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Posted 14 November 2012 - 07:17 PM

His was terrible and nothing will change that
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Posted 14 November 2012 - 07:34 PM

His was terrible and nothing will change that


To be fair, he had Sanchez, so it's not like he had much to work with in terms of the passing game. Anyways, we'll be losing this game, considering how they were able to score on the 9ers, I'm sure they'll have no problem scoring on our defense, our offense on the other hand, we might get shut out again.
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Posted 14 November 2012 - 07:37 PM

His was terrible and nothing will change that


U should take jets then getting 3.5 mon
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Posted 14 November 2012 - 07:50 PM

Bradford will have his best game EVER ....
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Posted 14 November 2012 - 08:01 PM

The way things are going, the answer is probably.....
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Posted 14 November 2012 - 08:15 PM

we're gonna lose this game by at least 10 :frown:
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Posted 14 November 2012 - 09:14 PM

guaranteed revenge
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Posted 14 November 2012 - 09:23 PM

idk if it will be as much schotty as it will be our inability to even move for yards on offense
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Posted 14 November 2012 - 09:36 PM

I'm not sure what revenge he'll be getting. The dude was paid millions of dollars to be less than mediocre at his job. If anything, he should throw this one for us out of pity.
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Posted 14 November 2012 - 09:54 PM

It would be fitting, and funny, if the game went to overtime 3-3......
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 08:14 AM

If Sanchez continues to have Panic Attacks and tipped balls at Line of Scrimmage then yes.

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 10:19 AM

you guys know that the Jets will lose this game
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 10:22 AM

you guys know that the Jets will lose this game

agree, thats why we may win..

The Jets have always been the Bizarro team of the NFL

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 10:27 AM

his guys will be fired up

he knows to attack the jets LB's with TE's

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but he will try and trick us and never throw to the TE's hes cagey like that
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 12:11 PM

idk if it will be as much schotty as it will be our inability to even move for yards on offense

both :badmood:
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 12:26 PM

I feel Schotty has a better Head Coach in Fisher. That helps IMHO because Rex should have intervened in past when play calling was 'baffling'. I guarantee Fisher WILL intervene ASAP if he does not like play calling. Fisher more interested in best interests of team and not being best buddies with players/coaches like Rex appears to be.
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 12:34 PM

RAMS : Schotty's Doing an Outstanding Job

Transcripts of conference calls by St. Louis' Jeff Fisher and Sam Bradford with Jets reporters on Wednesday morning :

RAMS HEAD COACH JEFF FISHER

On his impressions of working with Brian Schottenheimer…
My impressions, he’s doing an outstanding job. I was very excited initially that he was available. We hit the ground running and he’s been a big influence of the early turnaround of this football team.

On how Schottenheimer has helped Sam Bradford…
He has a great relationship with Sam. The two of them have spent a lot of time together. Sam has a very good feel for what we’re trying to do. Brian and Sam are on the same page all the time during the ballgame. I think Sam is only going to get better and better.

On the Jets' use of Tim TebowPosted Image
It’s their call, their right to use him however they choose. He’s a potential threat, a different kind of threat with the way they use him offensively from week to week — you probably hear that from everybody. It’s something we have to prepare for. You have to spend time and be very prepared for the differences between the two quarterbacks.

On the amount of time spent preparing for Sunday’s game…
We’re just on day one of the work week. We’re going to prepare our defense, but how much time we spend, that’s confidential, that’s our own business. The way the league is, we spent time on it last week with the young quarterback at San Francisco [Colin Kaepernick], and he’s a fine player. Week to week, you have to remind your players that we potentially may get some of this offense and this is what we’re going to do if it happens.

On what has impressed him about Schottenheimer…
His knowledge, his experience and the success he had there at New York. When you’re putting together a new football team, you have to do it and developing a young talented quarterback like Sam, you have to first start with the run game. I think statistically, the Jets' run production over the years while Brian was there speaks for itself.

On if he was surprised the Jets parted ways with Schottenheimer…
What I was excited about was that he was available. What happened in the past is the past. Brian has moved on, we've moved on together and we have a great staff, we have a great working relationship. We expect to have a lot of success in the future.

On Wayne Hunter’s performance…
Wayne came in and was very excited to be here. Obviously, it didn’t take him very long to refamiliarize himself with the offense. He came in and helped us when we needed help. We missed him for a couple of weeks, but he’s back now at 100 percent. He’s a very enthusiastic, fun-loving guy that loves to practice. He’s just having fun here.

On running fake punts…
Well, I think it’s a philosophy. It’s a philosophy that I obviously shared with our special teams coach because we’ve been known to do things like that in the past. There are teams that will put a fake punt in and they’ll practice it once a week and the players know that they are going to call it. And there are teams that are going to install things and the players know they'd better be prepared to execute because it very likely will get called, and I think that’s the approach we have here.

On acquiring Hunter…
Wayne is versatile. He can play left, he can play right, he can play guard. He’s big, strong, physical. We’re committed to rebuilding this offensive line and we needed depth. We’ve been through some injuries here thus far. This year we’ve got everybody back now except for Scott [Wells], so we feel like, like I said, Wayne gives us experience. He also has, in the past, played in the tight end position, reported eligible and the goal line thing, so he just gives us a big guy that we can trust.

On if it was tough losing Jason SmithPosted Image
No, we know this was a good for all four parties, for Jason, for Wayne, for the Rams and for the Jets, and that’s why we did it.

On bringing in Schottenheimer…
I brought Brian in for a lot of different reasons, those that I spoke of earlier. His experience, the success that he had, his communication skills, everything that I heard about him is true and more. And he also is very gifted as far as the relationship with the quarterback. In addition to that, there’s a quarterback coach involved, we’ve got an excellent one here. The three of them, along with the other two quarterbacks, get along very well.

On sizing up the Jets wide receivers…
Well, they’re productive, young, but productive with different types of abilities. You’ve got guys with a run-after-catch ability, you’ve got good route runners, and I think that they’ve probably been unfairly criticized because this is a group that can make plays. I’ve been very, very impressed with Stephen HillPosted Image early on. He’s going to be a very good player. And [Jeremy] Kerley’s making plays. So the group can make plays, and it’s just a matter of getting the football to them.

On if Schottenheimer’s familiarity gives him an advantage…
Obviously, he’s familiar, but he does pay close attention to what they do there. They change things weekly. They do some very unique and difficult things to attack.

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On working with offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer…
I’ve really enjoyed working with Schotty. It’s been great getting to know him, learning his system. I think he’s really helped me in the fact this year that he’s very detailed in everything that he does. He coaches me hard on little things, he never lets anything slide by and I think that’s been something I haven’t had in the past couple years. With him and Cig [Frank Cignetti] coaching me, it seems like they’re always on me about something. They help me elevate my level of play.

On if Mark SanchezPosted Image might be distracted by Tim Tebow…
I’m not there. I don’t know what that situation is like, but wherever you are in the league, you’re going to have a backup. That’s just part of the game. I’ve never had a distraction in my couple of years here, so I really can’t speak on that because I don’t know what that’s like.

On Schottenheimer’s greatest attribute…
I think Schotty’s greatest thing is just his attention to detail. His game plan each week, the way he coaches me, the way he coaches the offense, he’s very detailed. He holds everyone accountable to know all the small details and all the finer points. I think that’s great and I’ve really enjoyed being around him.

On if Schottenheimer has made them a better offense this season…
Absolutely. I feel better with what we’re doing at this point in the year than I did last year. Obviously, we had a lockout last year, which made things tough on everyone, but I think Schotty’s done a great job coming in here and adapting to the personnel that we have yet still running his offense and what he knows.

On if having Schottenheimer is an advantage…
Obviously, it helps. The fact that he was up there and he knows, but at the same time I’m sure that everyone in New York realizes that, so they’re not going to come out and play the same way that we expect them to play. I’m sure that they’re going to have some new wrinkles. I think it helps with overall insight and information but at the same time we have to be prepared for the new things that they’re going to throw at us on Sunday.

On if Schottenheimer has mentioned anything about wanting to beat his old team…
No, he hasn’t.

On if he thinks Schottenheimer wants to beat the Jets because it’s his old team…
Yeah, I mean, I’m sure anyone that leaves a team and goes to a new team, I think anytime you have an opportunity to play your old team, you want to beat them. But at the same time, it’s one of our 16 regular season games. He’s treated it just like any other game week. We set out to win each and every week and I think that’s the way he’s approached this week.

On if the team wants to win this one for Coach Schottenheimer…
Yeah, obviously, like I said earlier, we set out each and every week to win. That’s our goal. I think first and foremost we want to win because that’s who we are and what we do but at the same time getting to know Schotty over the past couple months, I think it would be nice for us to help him out and bring this one home for him

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 02:10 PM

New York Jets (3-6) at St. Louis Rams (3-5-1)
Before the game, Mark Sanchez goes missing. Coaches, trainers, everyone looks for Sanchez. "Found him!" says the bus driver. Sanchez chain-smoking behind the bus in the Ed Jones tunnel, hands shaking uncontrollably. "I give up," he says, misery in his voice. "Play Tebow. Please, just play Tebow!"


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Posted 15 November 2012 - 02:15 PM

His was terrible and nothing will change that


We where wrong about one thing. It could get worse
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 03:50 PM

Rex Ryan expects 'cat and mouse' game between Jets and former offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer

For three years Brian Schottenheimer was the Jets' offensive coordinator. Rex Ryan remembers the times the two would break down the offense and defense from the other person's perspective. As the Jets prepare to face the Rams, where Schottenheimer now coaches, he has a different perspective on those breakdowns."As far as he knows, we threw everything out," Ryan joked.


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With the intimate knowledge the Jets have of Schottenheimer and he has of the Jets' defense, Ryan expects that a battle of the minds will ensue Sunday."I’m looking forward to seeing the cat and mouse between Schotty and our defense because we know each other so well," Ryan said today.One example: when the Jets' pass rush goes after Rams quarterback Sam Bradford. Ryan said that Schottenheimer uses multiple pass protections and different looks.

The Jets use different kinds of blitzes."For each protection there’s probably a better blitz," Ryan said. "That’s probably where that cat and mouse game comes in."Ryan would not go into the reasons for Schottenheimer's exit, saying that "I don’t even want to go down that road because there were several things that went into it."Instead he's looking forward to Sunday."It’s not that you’re chasing ghosts, it’s that you know each other so well," Ryan said."He’s probably anticipating certain things from us and we’re anticipating certain things from him."

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 08:55 PM

Ryan, Tannenbaum deserve one more year

New York Jets owner Woody Johnson dropped the verbal gauntlet Thursday.

"I didn't sign up for a 3-6 season," Johnson told New York reporters. "We haven't had one of these in a while. I'm not happy about it, yet I'm optimistic that some of these things can be corrected."Although names weren't mentioned, we know exactly who this was directed to. Jets general manager Mike Tannenbaum and Rex Ryan should feel a little less secure than they did one day ago. Johnson officially put both on notice.Johnson signs a lot of checks – big ones -- and he has just three wins to show for it. His team is widely viewed as a circus with a combustible locker room full of characters. The Jets bark a lot more than they bite the past two years, and that's not a good look in the NFL.

Tannenbaum is responsible for putting this roster together. The Jets currently are an old team lacking depth and a franchise quarterback. The recent drafts (Vladimir Ducasse???) haven’t been good and the salary-cap situation isn't ideal.Ryan is responsible for coaching the Jets. It's Ryan's job to keep the locker room together and getting the team ready to play each week. He's failed at that job more often than not. The Jets are 3-6. Even worse, this week’s story with anonymous players ripping backup quarterback Tim Tebow shows more signs of poor chemistry and Ryan not in control of his team.With all that said, Ryan and Tannenbaum deserve one more year. This pair led New York to back-to-back AFC Championship Games together in 2009 and 2010. It can work, and Ryan and Tannenbaum have earned enough equity to prove it based on their first two years.

Just like the AFC East blog labeled 2012 a no-excuse year for Jets quarterback Mark Sanchez, the same applies for Ryan and Tannenbaum in 2013. Next year should be win-or-bust for this Jets pair. But Johnson owes Ryan and Tannenbaum one more chance.

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 09:18 AM

O-coordinator holds no ill will toward Jets

If you’re expecting the man whose name became an epithet with Jets fans to revel in their problems, think again.Brian Schottenheimer has his own problems, thank you very much.The Jets’ much-maligned offensive coordinator under Eric Mangini and Rex Ryan is now calling the plays for the Rams, who are having even more trouble finding the end zone than Schottenheimer’s former team as they prepare to square off here Sunday at the Edward Jones Dome.No wonder Schottenheimer was so eager to take the high road Thursday when asked repeatedly about his stormy, six-year tenure with the Jets that ended in a curiously handled departure last January.“If there’s one thing I learned growing up in a coach’s family, it’s that stability in this business is crazy,” he said. “We enjoyed six amazing years in New York. We were so close to getting to the Super Bowl, and I wish we would have had a chance to finish it. But there comes a time when it’s time to make a change and move on, and I’m thrilled to be a St. Louis Ram.”

The Rams appear to be thrilled to have the 40-year-old son of retired NFL head coach Marty Schottenheimer, too, though 3-5-1 St. Louis ranks just 28th in the league in points — four spots worse than the Jets — despite having former No. 1 overall pick Sam Bradford under center.Rams coach Jeff Fisher raved about Schottenheimer, essentially labeling him a head coach in waiting somewhere else.“No one’s really satisfied with our production, because up until last week, it was well-documented that we were having difficulty getting the ball in the end zone,” Fisher said. “But Brian’s very, very talented. His opportunity to be a head coach is not far away.”That might explain why Schottenheimer responds to questions about the Jets like a politician, though memories of “Fire Schotty!” chants and harsh back pages are still fresh.The Jets might be 3-6, ranked 30th in the league in total offense under replacement Tony Sparano and engulfed in controversy, but Schottenheimer refuses to revel in any of it.“I really don’t,” he said, when asked if he considered the criticism he received in New York unfair. “When you’re a coordinator in this league, you’re going to take bullets. I always appreciated how passionate the fans were back in New York, and it comes with the territory.”

Schottenheimer doesn’t have to look far for reminders of his Jets days. The Rams have five former Jets on their roster (offensive tackle Wayne Hunter, quarterback Kellen Clemens, center Rob Turner, tight end Matt Mulligan and running back Terrance Ganaway), and all of them were added since Schottenheimer’s arrival.Schottenheimer said he isn’t paying attention to the Tim Tebow-Mark Sanchez controversy back in New York — mainly because “I have my own things to deal with here’’ — but says he is still a believer in the embattled Sanchez.“I think Mark’s a terrific player,and I still do,” Schottenheimer said.“He needs to be more consistent,but again,he’s still a young player. I’m pulling for him.Nobody works harder than him. He wants to be great. He’s going to work at being great, and I wish him nothing but the best — after this week.”But Schottenheimer clearly would like to beat his former team.“[A victory Sunday] wouldn’t count twice, but would I enjoy it?” he said. “Absolutely.”

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 09:36 AM

Schottenheimer looking forward to reunion

As the Jets prepare to meet St. Louis, Rams offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer is trying to block out the emotion of a reunion with his former team.“I enjoyed my time in New York, I really did,” Schottenheimer said. “I had great experiences, won a lot of football games and, again, looking forward to seeing those guys.”Rex Ryan noted that there would be a game of cat-and-mouse when it comes to the matchup. Clearly, Schottenheimer knows the Ryan defense — he had three seasons to practice against it. And Ryan knows what Schottenheimer might pull on offense."He’s a fun guy to play cat-and-mouse with,” Schottenheimer said. “He’s a dangerous guy to play cat-and-mouse with. But, we enjoyed it for three years. It will be fun on Sunday in the Edward Jones Dome.”

St. Louis coach Jeff Fisher’s assessment of Schottenheimer echoed what Ryan said about his former offensive coordinator Thursday morning.

“Well, (Schottenheimer has) done a good job,” Fisher said. “The offense is in and we’ve got flexibility week to week. He’s not satisfied. No one’s really satisfied with our production because up until last week, it was well documented we were having difficulty getting the ball in the end zone. But, guys are playing hard. I think we’re settling down now. With (WR) Danny (Amendola) coming back it certainly helps. He’ll never be satisfied. He’s very, very talented – I know that. His opportunity to be a head coach is not far away.”Schottenheimer comes from a coaching family. His father, Marty, coached in the NFL, and Schottenheimer had that in common with Ryan, whose father Buddy once coached in the NFL and brother Rob is the Dallas defensive coordinator. Fisher commented on the Ryans.“I see a lot of Buddy in Rex and Rob,” Fisher said. “They’re excellent coaches as Buddy was, and excellent defensive minds and flexible. They can go down the street and coach a four-man line one day and come back and coach a three-man line the next day. They understand defense and they understand how to play defense.”

Schottenheimer took a lot of criticism for a predictable and clunky offense during his last year in New York, after the team went to back-to-back AFC title games. He said at the end he saw the writing on the wall.“If there’s one thing I learned growing up in a coach’s family is stability in this business is crazy,” Schottenheimer said. “We enjoyed six amazing years in New York. Back-to-back AFC championship games, we had so many wins, we were so close to get into the Super Bowl. I wish we would have had a chance to finish it. But, like I learned from my father going 14-2, with him getting fired, is there comes a time when it’s time to make a move and change and move on.”On the two quarterbacks he’s worked with, Schottenheimer said he thought Mark Sanchez was a terrific player who needed to be more consistent, and Sam Bradford had the potential to be special.“I’m thrilled to be a St. Louis Ram,” Schottenheimer said. “I’m thrilled to be here with these guys. Again, I wish (the Jets) nothing but the best and I look forward to seeing them on Sunday.”

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