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[slats]

Mark has played far worse this season than I ever expected, and he's getting worse. His contract extension could prove to be one of the best moves in franchise history - if it gets Tannenbaum fired.

Hate to say it. Really hate to say it. But they should probably make the move to Tebow sooner rather than later. They need to see what he can do first hand. It could easily be worse than what we've already got, but at least then they'll know and can act accordingly in the offseason. They can't go into the winter with any questions about what Tebow is or isn't. At this point, the Sanchez question's been answered.

I wish the weather got warmer as the season wore on, that way I could go outside and find stuff to do.

[Sperm Edwards]

Then the man who made this quote should lose his job. So should Keller. Hell, the only players on offense who should keep their job based on what you said are Brick, Mangold and Kerley. Everyone else has performed poorly enough to lose their starting spot.

But it's easier to make one big change. It's not coming. Deal with it.

I'll be shocked if the Jets could find a really good GM who wants to put his name on the 2013 Jets. Maxed out on the cap and either don't have players under contract for 2013, or need outright replacements for the ones who are, for the following positions on offense:

QB, RB, FB, WR1, WR4+, TE, LG (or go with Ducasse), RG, RT.

and the following on defense:

OLB x2, FS, SS. Ellis/Harrison/other will start at NT unless Pouha is somehow willing to cut his salary in half. Number of starting safeties needed cuts in half if Bush can start next year.

Plus the owner claims he's hell-bent on not moving Tebow in '13. If I'm a GM looking for a rebuild project, joining the Jets in 2013 instead of 2014 gives me 1 less mulligan year.

[CTM]

hahahahahah.. what a cluster... lmao

[whodeawhodat]

Mark has played far worse this season than I ever expected, and he's getting worse. His contract extension could prove to be one of the best moves in franchise history - if it gets Tannenbaum fired.

Hate to say it. Really hate to say it. But they should probably make the move to Tebow sooner rather than later. They need to see what he can do first hand. It could easily be worse than what we've already got, but at least then they'll know and can act accordingly in the offseason. They can't go into the winter with any questions about what Tebow is or isn't. At this point, the Sanchez question's been answered.

I wish the weather got warmer as the season wore on, that way I could go outside and find stuff to do.

The problem is, they cant just put Tebow in there. He needs to run his type of plays in his type of offense. It is a totally different offense we would be making a move to not just a different person taking the snaps under center. If thats the case, McElroy should replace Sanchez. Right now, it is not looking good. 2 more losses and and we really start looking at draft needs and QBs for next year.

[PatriotReign37]

Greene is right.

Id give Sanchez 2 more quarters vs STL to get it done, but wouldnt tell him that. If its the same INT throwing, fumble prone sputtering offense, in comes Tebow after half time.

[#27TheDominator]

This is the exact meltdown day in media I feared when we traded for Tebow. I thought it would be Week 4 or 5. But its finally here. From this point here every loss will only magnify the noise in media. And this is why the Tebow trade bafffled me.

The "meltdown" isn't coming from Tebow being on the team. It is coming from Sanchez blowing the donkey. If he played even moderately average we wouldn't have threads on here calling for McElroy to start.

Then the man who made this quote should lose his job. So should Keller. Hell, the only players on offense who should keep their job based on what you said are Brick, Mangold and Kerley. Everyone else has performed poorly enough to lose their starting spot.

But it's easier to make one big change. It's not coming. Deal with it.

He didn't say he shouldn't. He said "that goes for every position."

I'll be shocked if the Jets could find a really good GM who wants to put his name on the 2013 Jets. Maxed out on the cap and either don't have players under contract for 2013, or need outright replacements for the ones who are, for the following positions on offense:

QB, RB, FB, WR1, WR4+, TE, LG (or go with Ducasse), RG, RT.

and the following on defense:

OLB x2, FS, SS. Ellis/Harrison/other will start at NT unless Pouha is somehow willing to cut his salary in half. Number of starting safeties needed cuts in half if Bush can start next year.

Plus the owner claims he's hell-bent on not moving Tebow in '13. If I'm a GM looking for a rebuild project, joining the Jets in 2013 instead of 2014 gives me 1 less mulligan year.

Not that I think any GM would want this mess, but I don't think it's quite that dire. Most of the guys you are worried about will take pay cuts. OLB? Those guys are probably coming back at lower numbers and are due to be replaced anyway. IMO those guys are still okay, they just need a better player to cover more ground next to them. In fact, IMO the entire defense is good. I think they can keep Howard, isn't he RFA? What I hope they don't do is mortgage 2014 to try to put a team together for 2013. Let the sh*t contracts run out and fill the slots.

[slats]

The problem is, they cant just put Tebow in there. He needs to run his type of plays in his type of offense. It is a totally different offense we would be making a move to not just a different person taking the snaps under center. If thats the case, McElroy should replace Sanchez. Right now, it is not looking good. 2 more losses and and we really start looking at draft needs and QBs for next year.

The Tebow questions will remain until he demonstrates that he can or can't do it out on the field. The only way to put it to rest is to play him. If the Jets lose out with him under center, at least there won't be any complaints about dumping him in the offseason. If they don't put him in, the cries for Tebow will continue.

[Jetfan13]

Report: Shonn Greene wasn't saying Jets should start Tebow



In an interview with Michael Silver of Yahoo Sports on Wednesday, Jets running back suggested that Tim Tebow should replace Mark Sanchez at quaraterback.

Steve Wyche of NFL Network and NFL.com reports a source close to New York Jets running back Shonn Greene, who spoke with Greene overnight, said the running back was not advocating for a quarterback change.

"You feel bad for Mark, but at the same time, you want to win games. We're not here to protect people's feelings," he said. "If you want to win games, you've got to try something."
The source said Greene was not suggesting any specific personnel changes. Instead, the source said the "change" Greene meant is that the Jets need to start winning instead of losing.
Greene will reportedly clarify his remarks to the media today.

[BlackDynamite]

"Why do you suck?"

- Shonn Greene to Sanchez in the backfield this Sunday
BD

[SpartanJet]

I'd rather they don't switch QB's for 2 reasons

1) It will pretty much mean we will win very few games making sure we get a better draft pick.

2) If we do well with Tebow it will make it hard to get rid of him, and if we dont get rid of him we are due for years of mediocrity with him as the QB (much like Pennington).

I'd rather never open the Tebow box.

[SMC]

This is comical.

[GATA]

D*mn you!
I wanted to post this. !

[PatriotReign37]

I'd rather they don't switch QB's for 2 reasons

1) It will pretty much mean we will win very few games making sure we get a better draft pick.

2) If we do well with Tebow it will make it hard to get rid of him, and if we dont get rid of him we are due for years of mediocrity with him as the QB (much like Pennington).

I'd rather never open the Tebow box.

Seems to me that it would up his value.

[Jetsouth]

Tbow haters are as bad as Tebow nut huggers..

Calling for the HC to skip the QB that took a team that had a 1.8% chance of making the playoffs into said playoffs in lieu of GMC is poetic.... it really is stupid beyond reality.

[flgreen]

Funny thing is, Sanchez will still be on the team next year, and Greene won't

[jack48]

Shonn just wrote his ticket out of town

[Sperm Edwards]

Shonn just wrote his ticket out of town

This does not sound like punishment.

[stoicsentry]

This is the exact meltdown day in media I feared when we traded for Tebow. I thought it would be Week 4 or 5. But its finally here. From this point here every loss will only magnify the noise in media. And this is why the Tebow trade bafffled me.

Who the eff cares, though?

If Mark Sanchez wasn't so brutally terrible, we're not having this conversation.

See, what the anti-Tebow crowd would have us believe is that somehow a 3-6 record without Tebow would be better than a 3-6 record with Tebow. By my calculations, it's... the same.

[stoicsentry]

BTW, is it just me or is Florio being thoroughly deceptive with that headline? What a jackass.

[jack48]

This does not sound like punishment.

For him or us. I can't believe he made a "coach" reference. It was hysterical.