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[SouthernJet]

Let's assume for the moment it's not a total Fire Sale where even guys like Mangold are on Trade Block etc..

What Players do you think will not be on Jets 2013 Roster:

I will start:

Bart Scott
Shonn Greene

[Obrien2Toon]

Hoping:

Sanchez
Holmes
Slauson
B. Moore- hate to say this because he's always been one of my favorites, way underrated. But that back injury finished him off.
Pace
Scott
Thomas

Would keep Greene and Keller. I like Greene, not as a featured back though. Draft a RB in the 2nd round. Greene really starts to wear defenses down in 2nd half, if he gets the chance. Get a good, young all-around back and have a nice 1-2 punch.

Edited by Obrien2Toon, 15 November 2012 - 08:36 AM.

[Sperm Edwards]

Start by listing players who cannot return at their dollars for cap reasons.

Then move onto the list of players who are not under contract for 2013.

Then make your list. Start at $130M in cap hits before making any moves ($142M but obviously cutting Jason Smith erases $12M he'll never see).

Now go build your team, starting with 2012 Jets you're bringing back and who you're not. Don't forget Revis wants a new contract or you lose him after 2013 as well.

It's ugly for 2013 no matter what you do.

[Smashmouth]

Pace out

Scott out

Thomas out

J. Smith out

Bell out

Slauson out

Holmes hopefully out but probably not possible unless they want to eat a lot of cash

Tebow out

Maybin already out

Lex Hilliard out

Clyde Gates Out

Schilens out

Entire FO, GM and Scouting Dept out

Entire coaching staff out


6 TE's on the roster ? Really ? count a few of them out

Laron Landry Hope we can figure out a way to keep him but he may want out of the three ring circus and teams will most defintely be interested

If a new coach comes in he may clean house of some big salaries and try to attain some draft picks so some suprizing names may come up in that scenario.

Edited by Smashmouth, 15 November 2012 - 09:39 AM.

[SouthernJet]

If a new coach comes in he may clean house of some big salaries and try to attain some draft picks so some suprizing names may come up in that scenario.

my thinking as well..

[SouthernJet]

Start by listing players who cannot return at their dollars for cap reasons.

Then move onto the list of players who are not under contract for 2013.

Then make your list. Start at $130M in cap hits before making any moves ($142M but obviously cutting Jason Smith erases $12M he'll never see).

Now go build your team, starting with 2012 Jets you're bringing back and who you're not. Don't forget Revis wants a new contract or you lose him after 2013 as well.

It's ugly for 2013 no matter what you do.

thanks man,,
so what is your expert opinion on a list of 'candidates'

[Smashmouth]

my thinking as well..

What big names would you be willing to throw out there SJ ?

Cro
Revis
D-Brick
Harris

Im not saying these guys would be my choice but a new HC, ya never know. You also have to keep in mind some of these guys after a rebuild would be at the age you wont get much for them in a trade 3 or 4 years down the road. The Jets notoriously hold on to players way too long and by that time the value is crap.

[SouthernJet]

What big names would you be willing to throw out there SJ ?

Cro
Revis
D-Brick
Harris

Im not saying these guys would be my choice but a new HC, ya never know. You also have to keep in mind some of these guys after a rebuild would be at the age you wont get much for them in a trade 3 or 4 years down the road. The Jets notoriously hold on to players way too long and by that time the value is crap.

I am of belief a rebuilding is needed. So I would have EVERYONE as trade bait if some team was willing to overpay in high draft picks.
It doesnt do you much good to have star Vets on a non playoff team. Makes difference between 4-12 and 6-10. Let them close their careers on playoff team and we get draft picks for future..

[Bleedin Green]

Sad to say, outside of the last couple of years' draft picks (as the jury is still out), the DL and select few other players here and there, you could make some sort of an argument for why just about every other player on this roster could potentially be sent packing. The one other unit you'd probably want to hold onto would be the secondary (at least the starters), but money is no doubt an issue there, especially with Landry and Bell on one-year deals and Revis entering the last year of his contract.

[CrazyCarl40]

Hoping:

Sanchez
Holmes
Slauson
B. Moore- hate to say this because he's always been one of my favorites, way underrated. But that back injury finished him off.
Pace
Scott
Thomas

Would keep Greene and Keller. I like Greene, not as a featured back though. Draft a RB in the 2nd round. Greene really starts to wear defenses down in 2nd half, if he gets the chance. Get a good, young all-around back and have a nice 1-2 punch.

Sanchez - Not Happening $$
Holmes - Not Happening $$
Slauson - Isn't he a free agent? And yes he is a jag, but I'd still take him over Vlad. No need to create ANOTHER hole.
Moore - Free Agent. Probably too long in the tooth to bring back. Can't replace both guards in one fell swoop with all of the other needs. We'll see.
Pace/Scott/Thomas - Yes/Yes/Yes

[#27TheDominator]

IMO Harris is the one guy getting a lot of money that is not playing up to potential AND not a good fit for a lot of other defenses. If a Dungy comes in here Harris is beyond worthless. He needs to be on a Parcells style BIG LB defense. Probably impossible to move.

[#27TheDominator]

I can also see them making a push for Harvin. They seem to be in the mix every time his name comes up.

[BurnleyJet]

The following wont be back :-

Scott
Pace
J.Smith
E.Smith
B.Moore
Laundry
S.Greene
B.Thomas
Bell
Pouha cut and resigned
Harris restructered

Sanchez to much dead money

We may use others as trade bait, Cro, Revis.

[peebag]

The following wont be back :-

Scott
Pace
J.Smith
E.Smith
B.Moore
Laundry
S.Greene
B.Thomas
Bell
Pouha cut and resigned
Harris restructered

Sanchez to much dead money

We may use others as trade bait, Cro, Revis.

we gonna be baddddd - here in '013......

[HessStation]

IMO Harris is the one guy getting a lot of money that is not playing up to potential AND not a good fit for a lot of other defenses. If a Dungy comes in here Harris is beyond worthless. He needs to be on a Parcells style BIG LB defense. Probably impossible to move.

But easy to cut...

[jetsjetsjetss]

Pace out

Scott out

Thomas out

J. Smith out

Bell out

Slauson out

Holmes hopefully out but probably not possible unless they want to eat a lot of cash

Tebow out

Maybin already out

Lex Hilliard out

Clyde Gates Out

Schilens out

Entire FO, GM and Scouting Dept out

Entire coaching staff out


6 TE's on the roster ? Really ? count a few of them out

Laron Landry Hope we can figure out a way to keep him but he may want out of the three ring circus and teams will most defintely be interested

If a new coach comes in he may clean house of some big salaries and try to attain some draft picks so some suprizing names may come up in that scenario.

you dont want sanchez out?

[Smashmouth]

you dont want sanchez out?

next year ? not possible

[BlackDynamite]

Everybody knows Scott is gone.
Greene isn't being paid anything, so they'll keep him, just because.
Pace and BT are gone.
Sione is another cap casualty
They've tied themselves to Sanchez through next season
Tebow will be dumped for a 6th rounder
Harris has done next to nothing this season, and his deal will be redone for cap purposes......
BD

[jetsjetsjetss]

next year ? not possible

well id like him gone ASAP but you put holmes on the list and i figured he wasnt possible either. Can we trade em both?

just bustin your balls btw

Edited by jetsjetsjetss, 15 November 2012 - 08:03 PM.

[Smashmouth]

well id like him gone ASAP but you put holmes on the list and i figured he wasnt possible either. Can we trade em both?

just bustin your balls btw

I know your bustin my balls

The differences between Holmes and Sanchez is that Holmes creates Issues off the field as well along with being wildly inconsistent.

The fact is neither one of them will be cut. But once again that will have a lot to do with who comes in as HC and GM and how much they may want to get something in particular done in relation to how much influence they have on Woody when they Make their case.

Also if you notice I did put probably not possibel next to Holmes name.

Edited by Smashmouth, 15 November 2012 - 10:15 PM.