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#61 BlackDynamite

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 05:25 PM

I'll reserve judgement until I see how he handles this load of garbage in the off-season.
He needs to burn the village, bury it with a shovel, and then bury the shovel!

Next summer I don't want to see the following:
T-Rex (Tanny and Rex), Sparano, Sanchez, Scott, Pace, Bryan Thomas, Y.Bell, Shonn Greene, and bunch of the other bums.(I tried to list them all, but the batteries on my cordless keyboard died in the process)

He has a lot of work to do......
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 06:28 PM

I hope this can put an end to all the silly PSL talk. This man is all about winning championships.



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Posted 15 November 2012 - 06:30 PM

Free hot dogs for everyone!


if he didnt give a sh!t about selling hot dogs and PSL's then they wouldnt be the ridiculous price they are.

He committed to the idea of winning, but is too incompetent to find the way to do so.
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 06:41 PM

Woody is a blow monkey

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 06:59 PM

if he didnt give a sh!t about selling hot dogs and PSL's then they wouldnt be the ridiculous price they are.

He committed to the idea of winning, but is too incompetent to find the way to do so.


I wish I just bought a hotdog 2 years ago and held on to it. It's value would have depreciated less then a PSL

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 07:04 PM

Prior to this season, Woody's record as an owner was a winning one with six playoff appearances. How many other franchises can match that record? Mistakes were made, but that's the nature of the beast. He'll make the correction as needed. He is more astute than some of you think. He wants to win!

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 07:32 PM

You're all being very disrespectful toward a great American statesman.
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 07:39 PM

Woody is good at picking winners- just look at his choices
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 07:50 PM

I wish I just bought a hotdog 2 years ago and held on to it. It's value would have depreciated less then a PSL



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Posted 15 November 2012 - 08:19 PM

Tim Tebow

Exactly.

Advertising Budget + Drop in Ticket Sales > PSL revenue. And by a lot.

Great work. Keep in mind; even during the Kotite Error every ticket was sold and there was a waiting list. And there was no ad budget at all.

This article nonetheless may be true; lucksy sperm club member Woody Johnson doesn't really care or know how bad he's screwed up his bottom line with blind greed.This fool didn't bother to investigate the price point at all, simply assumed he could jack the price through the roof and still rake cash in despite an inferior product . The enitre gameday experience causes sensible people to choose their couch or the local bar. And if he really doesn't care about PSLs(which he already cut once) waive them now.Because I may only be 1 guy with 2 seats, but right now I will not pay the 2013 PSL payment. I'll give up the tickets. Besides the Jets have hosted all of 4 playoff games in the roughly 25 years I've been going. It's not like I have to worry about losing out on the AFC Championship game any time soon.

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 09:36 PM

Well... by golly ... he's pissed and ain't happy about 3-6.
There's a good chance he may be far enough away from getting it to understand that this sh*tsling is going to get far worse and there's nothing that he or anyone in his band of schwanses can do to change that.
He is a half notch above the other born to wealth sphincter in the news recently, but he's just a comb-over and some microphone time away from him.
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Posted 16 November 2012 - 12:31 AM

Prior to this season, Woody's record as an owner was a winning one with six playoff appearances. How many other franchises can match that record? Mistakes were made, but that's the nature of the beast. He'll make the correction as needed. He is more astute than some of you think. He wants to win!



Funny. I measure success by championships, not playoff appearances.
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Posted 16 November 2012 - 12:34 AM

Can you believe that son of a bitch? Using his money to help other people? What the hell is his problem?!?!


i like that a lot more than people taking my money and "helping" other people.
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Posted 16 November 2012 - 12:42 AM

I cant say he's a bad owner since he tries to do the right thing by staying out of the way most of the time and let football people do the football work. Problem is the people he hired arent getting the job done.

Only reason I hate the son of a bitch motherf#cker is the fact he jacked prices in the old dump, then helped build that monstrosity that has terrible atmosphere and not a real nice place to see a game. I'll never forgive him for that. i hate the new stadium and refuse to ever pay to see a game there. Football is no longer as much fun as it once was thanks to Woody pricing me out (and no, there is no effing way I would sit in those ridiculous upper deck seats- i'd rather watch the game on an illegal feed than put up with that sh!t)
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Posted 16 November 2012 - 05:41 AM

I cant say he's a bad owner since he tries to do the right thing by staying out of the way most of the time and let football people do the football work. Problem is the people he hired arent getting the job done.

Only reason I hate the son of a bitch motherf#cker is the fact he jacked prices in the old dump, then helped build that monstrosity that has terrible atmosphere and not a real nice place to see a game. I'll never forgive him for that. i hate the new stadium and refuse to ever pay to see a game there. Football is no longer as much fun as it once was thanks to Woody pricing me out (and no, there is no effing way I would sit in those ridiculous upper deck seats- i'd rather watch the game on an illegal feed than put up with that sh!t)


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This is why the "pushing PSL's" argument is being made. But this could be made across the entire NFL, as more new stadiums have/are being built. Just ask the commish,

Back to Woody, I think he is clueless on what is needed to win and too distant to notice when things are not going right. 3-6 is a byproduct of many bad decisions made long before the season even got started - and Woody doesn't know any better so he never got involved.

Getting rid of Faneca, Weatherford, Ellis, Jones, and many others just to save a buck has impacted this team. Getting Mason and Plax last season and neglecting to draft good young talent then, directly impacted our offensive performance not just last year but this year also.

As Coy mentioned continuity is very important, given you have good talent. Ad if you don't, bringing on scrubs and has-been's two years in a row won't cut it. With Woody's inexperience, having a football czar like a Parcells, Wolfe, Polian, Cowher, or many others would have seen what is going on and stopped the self-destructing moves before they put us on the road to where we are today.

So, Woody is not a bad owner but he needs to get someone with football operations experience to run the show since he can't.



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Posted 16 November 2012 - 06:37 AM

He's not, but he hired Tannenbaum to make this very decision. Not only did he whiff on Sanchez, he gave him a f***ing contract extension for his poor play.

So while we don't know how much of a direct role Woody played in our predicament, we know he's the guy writing the checks. Want to blame the Tannenbaum/Rex/Sanchez trio? Fine, I think they all probably deserve to go at this point.

But can we trust Woody to hire the right GM going forward? Can we trust that a solid GM will want to work for him? It's a real, unavoidable concern.

Johnson inherited his wealth. This doens't make him a bad guy, but it means he depends on others to advise him.

The problem is that at least since the Herman Edwards debacle, he trusts Tannenbaum to make football decisions, and before that Bradway. And simply those guys despite being here a very long time are not very good at their jobs. Every business is going to make mistakes. But people learn to cut bait rather than throw good money after bad. And right now Johnson hasn't cut these bums loose. We either have an accountant making football decisions-at least that's the structure as seen by the organizational chart. And Bitonti is in lartge part correct;; the window is clsoed because they wiffed on Sanchez. But that decision flows form the Tannenbaum decision.

Biggest concern is at the very beginning of his tenure Bellicheat and then Parcells basically ran away, and then Johnson allowed Tagliabue to foist Herman Edwards on him. Doesn't seem that Johnson is very sharp.Not to say he's a bad guy, merely he goes with the flow of who ever has his ear last.
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Posted 16 November 2012 - 06:55 AM

I cant say he's a bad owner since he tries to do the right thing by staying out of the way most of the time and let football people do the football work. Problem is the people he hired arent getting the job done.



Favre and Tebow were allegedly Woody-driven. Granted, the finger-pointing that goes on under the Tannenbaum regime makes it difficult to pinpoint who, exactly, is in charge (although it's interesting that the fingers always point away from Tannenbaum).
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Posted 16 November 2012 - 07:41 AM

If he was responsible for getting Tebow which is what it sounds like than I think he is worse than Jerry Jones.

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 09:10 AM

Favre and Tebow were allegedly Woody-driven. Granted, the finger-pointing that goes on under the Tannenbaum regime makes it difficult to pinpoint who, exactly, is in charge (although it's interesting that the fingers always point away from Tannenbaum).

Staying in the corner office is always Job 1 for Mike Tannenbaum. Get the sense more and more the biennial Revis contract negotiation is a planned circel jerk for Tannenbaum to look like he's doing something, Revis gets the summer off and his agent tells DR what a great job he's doing for him. Win/win/win.

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 09:12 AM

Favre and Tebow were allegedly Woody-driven. Granted, the finger-pointing that goes on under the Tannenbaum regime makes it difficult to pinpoint who, exactly, is in charge (although it's interesting that the fingers always point away from Tannenbaum).


Im sure woody had some input into what goes on, as does almost every owner in every sport, but I have a hard time believing that he was the driving force behind these decisions. Woody is an easy guy to blame for everything since he is easily hate-able.
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