BlackDynamite Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 He won't come cheap, and he's the only receiver, besides Kerley, mark likes throwing the ball to, because he's pretty reliable catching it. In his first 3 years he had about 45 receptions in year 1, 55 in Year 2, and 65 last year, where he had similar production to Vernon davis and Antonio Gates. He's obviously been hurt this season. Jets have the cap space to sign him, given 2014 they have few obligations, so the can structure a deal that is light on the cap in 2013. I say sign him, provided it's nothing outrageous. Not like the Jets have anyone else who is worth signing long-term. He's earned some paper. I'd give him a 3-4 year deal. BD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjets Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 I'd say sign him...who ever our new qb will be will love him.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 It all depends on what he's asking for. The team does have the option of the franchise tag, which is on the lower ends of all skill positions, I think somewheres a little north of 5 million, so it's possible he could sign a team friendly deal for a longer term team and security. It also depends on who the offensive coordinator is next year, who the QB is and what type of money we have available. These decisions aren't made in a vacuum so it's hard to say. He has a unique skill set and despite what people say around here, he would start on many other teams and with a competent QB would be putting up top 10type numbers. With a reasonable contract, I say you bring him back. Not having the understanding of the cap like Jason does, I'm not sure how much of a negotiating weapon the franchise tag or transitional tag?? is, but it's an option. Obviously if the financial cost is too high, then you cut bait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackDynamite Posted November 19, 2012 Author Share Posted November 19, 2012 If he wasn't with such incompetence behind center, and on the sidelines, I'm sure his stats would be better..... BD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Is he going to be expensive? He's having a down year... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackDynamite Posted November 19, 2012 Author Share Posted November 19, 2012 Is he going to be expensive? He's having a down year... He's been hurt. The going rate for a good TE is about $6-7M. The Jets can afford, with plenty of space after next season. 4 years, $25M. Something like that...... BD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ILK Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 You sure he did not get auto extend with Mark? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 No. He has his had up his ass most of the time without a big contract...I can only imagine if you pay him. He's a replaceable player provide we scout correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Keller had 65 catches last year... on 110+ targets. Part of that is on Mark but generally his stats aren't so great that he'd need a huge contract. He drops and misses. I'd support bringing him back on the cheap. Let someone else overpay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Not in a million years. Keller is awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Not in a million years. Keller is awful. So we'll be re-signing him to a multi-year deal well above market value? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 So we'll be re-signing him to a multi-year deal? I'm kind of surprised we haven't done it already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbanmadmike1 Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 He's been hurt. The going rate for a good TE is about $6-7M. The Jets can afford, with plenty of space after next season. 4 years, $25M. Something like that...... BD If they give that JAG 6+ million a year... well that would fit into the cluelessness of that FO very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 I hope he goes to the Packers and catches 90 balls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackDynamite Posted November 19, 2012 Author Share Posted November 19, 2012 I hope he goes to the Packers and catches 90 balls. I'm pretty sure Santonio Holmes could catch 90 balls, with Rodgers throwing the rock in that offense..... BD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 I hope he goes to the Packers and catches 90 balls. DJ Williams is in GB already and is basically a Keller clone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackDynamite Posted November 19, 2012 Author Share Posted November 19, 2012 DJ Williams is in GB already and is basically a Keller clone. You mean Jermicheal Finley, who caught 10 fewer passes than Keller last year...... BD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 You mean Jermicheal Finley..... BD Finleys a FA and has his head further up his ass than Keller. They drafted WIlliams last year...Id expect him to be the starter when FInley isnt resigned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 I think we should bid against ourselves like we did with Holmes and grossly overpay him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackDynamite Posted November 19, 2012 Author Share Posted November 19, 2012 Finleys a FA and has his head further up his ass than Keller. They drafted WIlliams last year...Id expect him to be the starter when FInley isnt resigned. Keller > Finley BD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Finleys a FA and has his head further up his ass than Keller. They drafted WIlliams last year...Id expect him to be the starter when FInley isnt resigned. And then we sign Finley for six years, $75 million! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Keller > Finley BD Both are underachievers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackDynamite Posted November 19, 2012 Author Share Posted November 19, 2012 Both are underachievers. Is Heath Miller also an underachiever? Heath Miller last three years: Avg. 56 recs 3 TDs Dustin Keller last three years: Avg. 55 recs 4 TDs People don't want to face it, but Keller is one of the top 5-6 TEs in the game over the last three seasons..... BD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Is Heath Miller also an underachiever? Heath Miller last three years: Avg. 56 recs 3 TDs Dustin Keller last three years: Avg. 55 recs 4 TDs People don't want to face it, but Keller is one of the top 5-6 TEs in the game over the last three seasons..... BD Heath Miller also blocks. I dont know off the top of my head, but I'd assume Miller's catch rate is much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ILK Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 And then we sign Finley for six years, $75 million! Is there any way to trade 2 picks to do this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackDynamite Posted November 19, 2012 Author Share Posted November 19, 2012 Heath Miller also blocks. I dont know off the top of my head, but I'd assume Miller's catch rate is much better. Whatever that means. You can't compare any % to any Jets WR or TE. They have the worst QB in the league throwing the ball! Big Ben is always throwing at 65% every year...... BD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 No. He has his had up his ass most of the time without a big contract...I can only imagine if you pay him. He's a replaceable player provide we scout correctly. yeah so it's likely we wind up severely downgrading the position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Based on his production he should not get more than 4-5 mill a year. And so Tanny will sign him for 6-7 mill a year contract! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 A big fat no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackDynamite Posted November 19, 2012 Author Share Posted November 19, 2012 Based on his production he should not get more than 4-5 mill a year. And so Tanny will sign him for 6-7 mill a year contract! Good TEs cost $6-7M, and Keller is a good QB. Unless, you have someone to replace him with that'll get you 55-65 recs..... BD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 I am on the fence about Keller -- somewhere between "Hell No!", and "#%$!" No!". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackDynamite Posted November 19, 2012 Author Share Posted November 19, 2012 Keller and Kerley are the closest things the Jets have to competent long-term offensive weapons...... BD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 If Tannenbaum is still here I put it at 50/50. If he's fired and (as I expect) they keep Sparano for at least 1 more year, then they'll let Keller go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackDynamite Posted November 19, 2012 Author Share Posted November 19, 2012 If Tannenbaum is still here I put it at 50/50. If he's fired and (as I expect) they keep Sparano for at least 1 more year, then they'll let Keller go. I'm sure that would keep the team under .500 Decisions......decisions..... BD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
courtnj18 Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Dustin is one of the only players we SHOULD keep. Who cares if he's having an off-year. It doesn't even count as a full year b/c he missed the first 4 games. He's def a key player. He's awesome. I know some beg to differ, but I see him only getting better. There's never drama with him off the field, and he is dedicated to the game. Since Mark is here next year, he is a great match up and with the two of them, the Jets have some guarantees. Pay the man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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