courtnj18 Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 I am on the fence about Keller -- somewhere between "Hell No!", and "#%$!" No!". You must have bought a cheap fence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 I'm sure that would keep the team under .500 Decisions......decisions..... BD I don't see Rex firing his new hand-picked OC. Too much of a reflection on himself. Rex won't be fired and he still wants his OC to run this boring offense. Sparano - and Rex - would love to do nothing but run the ball and maybe pass just enough to set up the run. Keller is totally misfit for that role because of his blocking. Rex and Sparano's dream TE is Kyle Brady: basically a 6th lineman who catches 1-2 passes a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackDynamite Posted November 19, 2012 Author Share Posted November 19, 2012 I don't see Rex firing his new hand-picked OC. Too much of a reflection on himself. Rex won't be fired and he still wants his OC to run this boring offense. Sparano - and Rex - would love to do nothing but run the ball and maybe pass just enough to set up the run. Keller is totally misfit for that role because of his blocking. Rex and Sparano's dream TE is Kyle Brady: basically a 6th lineman who catches 1-2 passes a game. Who says Rex will be here to worry about it? (Woody probably won't fire him, even though he probably should) BD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsfan2400 Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 He is a pro's pro. SIGN HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Jets fan Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 You make a fair offer, take it or leave it. Keller will get a over market offer from some team. Then u let him go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 The Jets have plenty of holes on the team going into next season. As long as the money is reasonable, no need to create another hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylekram Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Good TEs cost $6-7M, and Keller is a good QB. Unless, you have someone to replace him with that'll get you 55-65 recs..... BDi wish keller was a good qb, i would then endorse the resign Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylekram Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 keller was a 3rd 4th round pick till tanny thought he was pulling a fast one on the giants and moving 1 place ahead and stealing him.keller already has it in his head that he is valuable.dude cant block to save his life. 95% gone already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylekram Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 The Jets have plenty of holes on the team going into next season. As long as the money is reasonable, no need to create another hole. the problem with jet resigning or extentions,the player, for some reason, doesnt play the same anymore. mangold,brick,harris,etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Vader Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 i definately bring keller back. his failures are more systemic to the offense as a whole. true he doesnt have the greatest awareness, but he is borderline very good at times, and could get better. I do think he'd be better if not the focal point in the middle of the field. I actual;ly think the Jets should grab a primo BIG TE and go two TE, two WR, one back, often. Ideally, the RB should be able to catch as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Keep Keller, draft another TE that can both catch and block like Michael Williams from Alabama. Or draft another with that is a better pass catcher than Cumberland. Either one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Is Heath Miller also an underachiever? Heath Miller last three years: Avg. 56 recs 3 TDs Dustin Keller last three years: Avg. 55 recs 4 TDs People don't want to face it, but Keller is one of the top 5-6 TEs in the game over the last three seasons..... BD Retarded comparison. Ones an oversized wr who can't block and the other is Heath Miller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Who says Rex will be here to worry about it? (Woody probably won't fire him, even though he probably should) BD You're letting your imagination get the better of you. Rex is returning unless the Jets lose their last 6 and to finish 4-12. Even then it's no slam dunk, particularly if the talk of the town continues to be the Knicks rather than the Giants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Resigning the overweight slow receiver who trips after catches and still hasnt learned to blocked anyone would reinforce what we already know about the CS and GM. Is Keller what a supposed ground and pound team needs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 You make a fair offer, take it or leave it. Keller will get a over market offer from some team. Then u let him go. This is about it. I'd consider the franchise tag, too, because its low for TEs, and that way the team would only be tied to him for a year. Whatever your opinion on Keller, he's useful here. If you're going to let him go, you need to be prepared to find someone better in free agency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 If I was him I'd ask to be let go. There's 10 teams he could start on and make the probowl for. Sanchez and this FO could have ruined Jerry Rices career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackDynamite Posted November 20, 2012 Author Share Posted November 20, 2012 Retarded comparison. Ones an oversized wr who can't block and the other is Heath Miller Boy, you should've been a surveyor...... BD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 keller was a 3rd 4th round pick till tanny thought he was pulling a fast one on the giants and moving 1 place ahead and stealing him.keller already has it in his head that he is valuable.dude cant block to save his life. 95% gone already i do agree he's 95% gone but look at his combine workouts again he was a 2nd rounder who became a late first by having a huge vertical leap and other measurables. plus a ton of production at Purdue. guys with those numbers go way higher than round 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason423 Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Id let Keller walk. Because of his numbers he is going to probably end up around 6.8-7 million a year which is just too much to spend on Keller with the state of the offense. The reason I say that is because there is no realistic reason to expect the Jets offense to explode next season and for the most part TEs begin their decline as soon as their extension years kick in on the contracts. You will essentially be spending money at a position that gives you no value. If the Jets were a good offensive team this year it is probably worthwhile to keep him and hope you get strong numbers in 2013 and you will deal with the declines after that. Because of where the Jets are they will end up getting 3rd round compensation for him. Thats more valuable that keeping a TE at 7 million a year on this offense. http://www.nyjetscap.com/2012_Articles/nflrisk.php http://www.nyjetscap.com/2012_Articles/dustinkellerprice.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Keller is middle of the road TE and should be paid as such, if he gets ridiculous with his contract demands then we should let him walk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yanks9596 Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Absolutely would not sign him. You don't hand out multi year extensions to average players. Time to recoginize that Keller is average, and certainly not a well-rounded TE either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Good TEs cost $6-7M, and Keller is a good QB. Unless, you have someone to replace him with that'll get you 55-65 recs..... BD For TE that cannot even block. Ok. Only If you say so! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackDynamite Posted November 20, 2012 Author Share Posted November 20, 2012 For TE that cannot even block. Ok. Only If you say so! So all of these 55-65 recs TEs are blockers too? If you say so..... BD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 So all of these 55-65 recs TEs are blockers too? If you say so..... BD You know it he is not worth that much for the position he plays. Guys like Gronk and Hernandez deserve the 8-9 mill they got. But Keller based on comparison value is a 5-6 mill guy. Which mean Tanny will pay a lot more. Period. And then in a couple of season guys like you will start threads telling people how we overpaid for Keller! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackDynamite Posted November 20, 2012 Author Share Posted November 20, 2012 You know it he is not worth that much for the position he plays. Guys like Gronk and Hernandez deserve the 8-9 mill they got. But Keller based on comparison value is a 5-6 mill guy. Which mean Tanny will pay a lot more. Period. And then in a couple of season guys like you will start threads telling people how we overpaid for Keller! I never said he was Gronk. I said he's probably getting a 4 year $25M deal. You missed that part? BD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 I never said he was Gronk. I said he's probably getting a 4 year $25M deal. You missed that part? BD Although on the higher side, thats what you say. My point is if we sign him Tanny will end up overpaying! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Keller is a good QB. I disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackDynamite Posted November 20, 2012 Author Share Posted November 20, 2012 Although on the higher side, thats what you say. My point is if we sign him Tanny will end up overpaying! Tanny won't be here. They'll keep Rex, and Tanny will be The Fall Guy..... BD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 I disagree. Dammit! I was hoping it was inside info and not a typo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Although on the higher side, thats what you say. My point is if we sign him Tanny will end up overpaying! If Tanny doesn't overpay, some team will still offer Keller a boatload of money. I could see the Colts viewing him as Luck's Dallas Clark. In any event, unless the Jets hit him with the franchise tag, he is not coming back. If, by chance, he does we are screwed -- as you said, Tanny is dumb enough to vastly overpay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 If Tanny doesn't overpay, some team will still offer Keller a boatload of money. I could see the Colts viewing him as Luck's Dallas Clark. In any event, unless the Jets hit him with the franchise tag, he is not coming back. If, by chance, he does we are screwed -- as you said, Tanny is dumb enough to vastly overpay. Colts took 2 tight ends relatively early in this years draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kay_gee Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 If it's at the right price, I'd take him back. If it's not...let him go. Obviously what that price is is debatable but my point is don't overpay for an average player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornJetsFan1983 Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 He won't come cheap, and he's the only receiver, besides Kerley, mark likes throwing the ball to, because he's pretty reliable catching it. In his first 3 years he had about 45 receptions in year 1, 55 in Year 2, and 65 last year, where he had similar production to Vernon davis and Antonio Gates. He's obviously been hurt this season. Jets have the cap space to sign him, given 2014 they have few obligations, so the can structure a deal that is light on the cap in 2013. I say sign him, provided it's nothing outrageous. Not like the Jets have anyone else who is worth signing long-term. He's earned some paper. I'd give him a 3-4 year deal. BD what has he earned? nothing, this guy disappears for games and seasons...why pay for him we can get just as much value as a vet minimum guy. Screw keller that ball dropping no body Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackDynamite Posted November 20, 2012 Author Share Posted November 20, 2012 what has he earned? nothing, this guy disappears for games and seasons...why pay for him we can get just as much value as a vet minimum guy. Screw keller that ball dropping no body You're right. He's only caught 120 passes over the last two seasons with 8 TDs. I'm sure the Jets can find that laying around. Wait a minute...... BD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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