T0mShane Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Did this need its own thread? No. I just wanted another catastrophic Tannenbaum f*ck up to be burned into your corneas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Did this need its own thread? No. I just wanted another catastrophic Tannenbaum f*ck up to be burned into your corneas. as whitlock would quote, The Original Sin mon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 farvuh comes to the jets and gets injured tebow comes to the jets and becomes boring what makes you think freeman would come here and do well ? this is a cursed team dude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ILK Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 But Klaco said Freeman sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFtoLong Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 farvuh comes to the jets and gets injured tebow comes to the jets and becomes boring what makes you think freeman would come here and do well ? this is a cursed team dude I agree Freeman would have come here and sucked, but not because of a curse. It's because we are an incompetent franchise, not a cursed one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackDynamite Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Did this need its own thread? No. I just wanted another catastrophic Tannenbaum f*ck up to be burned into your corneas. He's been mediocre at best until this season, when he got a new coaching staff with Shianoe, so give the coach the credit for getting him to produce. Maybe the Jets could learn something from this? Probably not in this case....... BD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn306 Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Did this need its own thread? No. I just wanted another catastrophic Tannenbaum f*ck up to be burned into your corneas. Strange how some people can do amazing things with a running game a game breaker at WR and a competent coaching staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Freeman has had a great season. Vincent Jackson and Doug Martin have been a big part of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Nice try, how many championship games and road playoff wins does Freeman have under his belt? Marks a winner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 But Klaco said Freeman sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Did this need its own thread? No. I just wanted another catastrophic Tannenbaum f*ck up to be burned into your corneas. Is Freeman better than Sanchez now, obviously, would thing here be any different with Freeman, hell no, where is our M Williams, V Jackson, and D Martin? And an Offensive philosophy that knows what the **** to do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Did this need its own thread? No. I just wanted another catastrophic Tannenbaum f*ck up to be burned into your corneas. The bigger question is where is our H Nicks, and L McCoy? 2 players we could have drafted if we decided to do the smart thing, and not trade up, and not draft a QB that year early, instead get rid of Schotty, bring in Rex's O-Coordinator H Jackson, and sign a Vet game manager like J Cambell, add the 2 guys above to the 2010 team with Cambell, and the Jets D we might have a SB win, and hopefully had been smart enough to draft a Kapernick, Dalton, ect.. in the 2nd round 2010, or 2011! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Josh Freeman sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 He's been mediocre at best until this season, when he got a new coaching staff with Shianoe, so give the coach the credit for getting him to produce. Maybe the Jets could learn something from this? Probably not in this case....... BD Huh? He was a bit better than mediocre in his 2nd season. 25 TDs to 6 INTs. People here would have been insisting Sanchez got enshrined in Canton already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackDynamite Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Huh? He was a bit better than mediocre in his 2nd season. 25 TDs to 6 INTs. People here would have been insisting Sanchez got enshrined in Canton already. That year was bracketed by two years where he had MANY more INTs to TDs. This guy is good one year, bad the next, which to me equals mediocre..... BD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 That year was bracketed by two years where he had MANY more INTs to TDs. This guy is good one year, bad the next, which to me equals mediocre..... BD You said he's been mediocre at best until this season. That is wrong. He has now been above average 2 of the past 3 seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackDynamite Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 You said he's been mediocre at best until this season. That is wrong. He has now been above average 2 of the past 3 seasons. Actually, I was overrating him. He was deficient as a QB in 2 out his 3 seasons. NOW he is mediocre...... BD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Actually, I was overrating him. He was deficient as a QB in 2 out his 3 seasons. NOW he is mediocre...... BD Whatever. You were wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackDynamite Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Whatever. You were wrong. Feel free to give any fact thats would prove that...... BD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Could have went Freeman- Mccoy in 2009 instead of Sanchez-Greene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackDynamite Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Could have went Freeman- Mccoy in 2009 instead of Sanchez-Greene. Yeah, that would've been great...... BD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Could have went Freeman- Mccoy in 2009 instead of Sanchez-Greene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Feel free to give any fact thats would prove that...... BD I already did, so it seems a fruitless endeavor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted November 23, 2012 Author Share Posted November 23, 2012 Could have went Freeman- Mccoy in 2009 instead of Sanchez-Greene. At least the guy who gave Greene a first round grade didn't get promoted to personnel director or anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackDynamite Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 I already did, so it seems a fruitless endeavor. Now you are wrong. He's had two good years, and two bad years, which is what I said. So how is he anything more than mediocre? How was I wrong? Feel free to correct me, if you can...... BD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 At least the guy who gave Greene a first round grade didn't get promoted to personnel director or anything. Every single person associated to the Jets scouting and front office need to be let go. Tannenbaum did a nice job signing all of those guys in 2008, but it was short term, and the drafting coinciding these quick fixes has been awful. Sanchez being pathetic aside, we're playing two guys significantly on offense who werent even in the league during training camp...and that's not even Austin Howard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeShelter Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 He's been mediocre at best until this season, when he got a new coaching staff with Shianoe, so give the coach the credit for getting him to produce. Maybe the Jets could learn something from this? Probably not in this case....... BD Agree. Last year he was taking the same step backwards that Sanchez was. Good to see him now look like the QB many thought he would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackDynamite Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Agree. Last year he was taking the same step backwards that Sanchez was. Good to see him now look like the QB many thought he would. I wouldn't break my arm patting him on the back. His history says next year, he'll be worse than Sanchez...... BD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Could have went Freeman- Mccoy in 2009 instead of Sanchez-Greene. Nicks, McCoy, sign J Cambell, draft a QB in late 1st, or 2nd round in 2010, and 2011, like Dalton, or Kaepernick let them sit behind the Cambell type QB, while the Jets win games, plug in said QB 2012 with a good Offensive supporting cast, the Jets could have had at SB win, and prob def at least a SB appearance by then, but we have an attention whore owner who has no patience to build a winner the right way, and continue to build the right way with a year or two in between where u are not great, but can always play good enough to win, while having windows of SB chances every couple of years, AKA the Steelers, Giants, Saints, Colts, Ravens, and now the 49ers, look like they will join this list to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Nicks, McCoy, sign J Cambell, draft a QB in late 1st, or 2nd round in 2010, and 2011, like Dalton, or Kaepernick let them sit behind the Cambell type QB, while the Jets win games, plug in said QB 2012 with a good Offensive supporting cast, the Jets could have had at SB win, and prob def at least a SB appearance by then, but we have an attention whore owner who has no patience to build a winner the right way, and continue to build the right way with a year or two in between where u are not great, but can always play good enough to win, while having windows of SB chances every couple of years, AKA the Steelers, Giants, Saints, Colts, Ravens, and now the 49ers, look like they will join this list to. Yeah but then we wouldnt have those AFC Championship game participant rings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Yeah but then we wouldnt have those AFC Championship game participant rings. Lol, yea I guess I couldn't convince Woody to give those up for the rings that say you won those games, and possibly a ring for winning the BIG game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ILK Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 But Gato said Freeman sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbanmadmike1 Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Could have went Freeman- Mccoy in 2009 instead of Sanchez-Greene. That implies competence in the FO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirlancemehlot Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Could have went Freeman- Mccoy in 2009 instead of Sanchez-Greene. Right. And still had a third rd pick, our starting safety in Elam and all those picks we pissed away to get Greene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDKostempski Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Now you are wrong. He's had two good years, and two bad years, which is what I said. So how is he anything more than mediocre? How was I wrong? Feel free to correct me, if you can...... BD That may be true, but Freeman's bad years have been pretty much on a par with Sanchez's numbers during those same years, and he had much less talent around him until this season when his team finally got him some weapons. Sanchez had a much better team around him in 2009 and 2010, and didn't put up particularly good numbers: Freeman: 2009: 10 games, 9 starts, 54.5% completions, 1855 yds, 6.4 ypa, 10 TDs, 18 INTs, 2 lost fumbles, 20 sacks, 59.9 rating 2010: 16 games, 16 starts, 61.4% completions, 3451 yards, 7.3 ypa, 25 TDs, 6 INTs, 3 lost fumbles, 28 sacks, 95.9 rating 2011: 15 games, 15 starts. 62.8% completions, 3592 yards, 6.5 ypa, 16 TDs, 22 INTs, 5 lost fumbles, 29 sacks, 74.6 rating 2012: 10 games, 10 starts, 56.4% completions, 2505 yards, 7.9 ypa, 21 TDs, 7 INTs, 1 lost fumble, 14 sacks, 94.6 rating Sanchez: 2009: 15 games, 15 starts, 53.8% completions, 2444 yards, 6.7 ypa, 12 TDs, 20 INTs, 3 lost fumbles, 26 sacks, 63.0 rating. 2010: 16 games, 16 starts, 54.8% completions, 3291 yards, 6.5 ypa, 17 TDs, 13 INTS, 1 lost fumble, 27 sacks, 75.3 rating 2011: 16 games, 16 starts, 56.7% completions, 3474 yards, 6.4 ypa, 26 TDs, 18 INTs, 8 lost fumbles, 39 sacks, 78.2 rating 2012: 11 games, 11 starts, 55.4% completions, 2339 yards, 6.7 ypa, 12 TDs, 10 INTs, 5 lost fumbles, 26 sacks, 75.6 rating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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