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#101 unbanmadmike1

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 10:54 AM

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#102 Integrity28

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 11:33 AM

Andy Reid had nothing to do with the Eagles defense. During their limelight years that was all Jim Johnson.

Reid is an offensive coach and veers to the passing game as much as Rex veers to the running game. he will get a QB killed with the Jets. i would want no part of him. Horrible game day manager and horrible with managing a clock.

Brilliant offensive coach, but stubborn


Reid has a bias, as all coaches do. But in the role of head coach he takes care of the whole. Even if it's as simple as him working with Jim Johnson. Reid oversaw the whole operation.

It wasn't like what we have now with Rex basically being a defensive coordinator neglecting the whole.

It wasn't like what Dolemite is advocating we have with Gruden, and how he insists that all head coaches are only capable of coaching to the side of their bias. Reid, Dungy, Cowher are amongst a number of coaches that come up on one side of the ball, but when they take the helm of the whole team... they run the whole team.

Gruden was and is offense only. Monte Kiffin ran the D in Tampa that won the SB, and it was Dungy's defense... it functioned on it's own independent of what Gruden did. The Jets need whole leadership, experienced leadership... not just another over-promoted coordinator learning on the job, or like in Gruden's case, over-correcting one side of the ball while the other suffers.

In 3-4 years with Gruden we'd have a top 15 offense and a sh*t defense. Opposite of what we have now... but then the same in a lot of ways.
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Posted 26 November 2012 - 12:36 PM

Reid has a bias, as all coaches do. But in the role of head coach he takes care of the whole. Even if it's as simple as him working with Jim Johnson. Reid oversaw the whole operation.

It wasn't like what we have now with Rex basically being a defensive coordinator neglecting the whole.

It wasn't like what Dolemite is advocating we have with Gruden, and how he insists that all head coaches are only capable of coaching to the side of their bias. Reid, Dungy, Cowher are amongst a number of coaches that come up on one side of the ball, but when they take the helm of the whole team... they run the whole team.

Gruden was and is offense only. Monte Kiffin ran the D in Tampa that won the SB, and it was Dungy's defense... it functioned on it's own independent of what Gruden did. The Jets need whole leadership, experienced leadership... not just another over-promoted coordinator learning on the job, or like in Gruden's case, over-correcting one side of the ball while the other suffers.

In 3-4 years with Gruden we'd have a top 15 offense and a sh*t defense. Opposite of what we have now... but then the same in a lot of ways.


I know you don't want Gruden...but wanted clarify this for the discussion...Gruden teams in Tampa Bay never finished in the top 15 for points scored in his seven years in Tampa Bay(18th, 18th, 23rd, 20th, 31st, 18th, 19th...he got lucky with a veteran QB in Oakland...Gannon fit the West Coast offense to a T...nice match...parlayed that into a fat contract with the Bucs...but never duplicated this accomplishment with the Bucs and/or any of the plethora of QBs he tried...he's overrated as an offensive guru.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 11:54 AM

"Why can't Woody hire anyone with experience?"


Because Woody has no experience ?
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