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#51 denden29

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 08:10 PM

Of course it's insulting and false. The underlying information isn't work, yours, his, or otherwise, because facts aren't proprietary, and I think the conclusion that this record is one of a 'draft genius' is sufficiently insane as to rule out the possibility that it actually came from somewhere.


Too much for you to understand that people refer to Tannenbaum as a cap genius, which he is terrible at, but a bad drafter, so why isn’t he a draft genius if he’s a cap genius? The title is meant as being humorous begging the question how did Tanny get such a bad rep as a drafter and a good one as a cap guy when the facts don’t point that out.

All I can say is look over the articles I have written and tell me where I stole them from?
Saying I plagiarized someone’s work is BS (period).

The fact is anyone can criticize my writings/opinions but my articles stand alone, take lots of time to research/write and are all my doing:


http://www.jetnation...ont-be-benched/
http://www.jetnation...-have-happened/
http://www.jetnation...s-one-got-away/
http://www.jetnation...ets-left-guard/
http://www.jetnation...lready-retired/
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#52 BlackDynamite

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 08:12 PM

Jason does a great job with his site and is very generous with his time but you will see that everything on here is linked and verified by various sources. I’ve worked hard compiling the Tannenbaum records for weeks and have done extensive research. Below is just some that I’ve done.

Funny I wrote Sione Po’uha would be cut for salary cap reasons on Sept. 12 now everyone is saying it, that doesn’t mean they stole it from me? Just look through the history of my writings, they stand on their own.

http://www.jetnation...eason-as-a-jet/

Here is just portion of my research:

2012:
1st (16) DE - Quinton Coples.
2nd (43) WR - Stephen Hill.
· Jets trade 2nd (47), 5th (154) & 7th (232) to Seattle Seahawks for 2nd (43) WR – Stephen Hill.
3rd (77) LB - Demario Davis.
4th (108) Jets (None).
· Jets trade 4th (108) & 6th (188) for QB – Tim Tebow & 7th (232) from Denver.
· Jets trade QB – Drew Stanton & 7th (214), got from Jacksonville Jaguars for DB Dwight Lowery trade, to Indianapolis Colts for 6th (187) DB - Josh Bush.
5th (154) Jets (None).
· Jets trade 2nd (47), 5th (154) & 7th (232) to Seattle Seahawks for 2nd (43) WR – Stephen Hill.
6th (187) DB – Josh Bush.
· Jets trade QB – Drew Stanton & 7th (214), got from Jacksonville Jaguars for DB Dwight Lowery trade, to Indianapolis Colts for 6th (187) DB - Josh Bush.
6th (202) COMP - RB - Terrance Ganaway.
6th (203) COMP - OL – Robert T. Griffin.
7th (214) Jets via Jacksonville (None)
· Jets trade QB – Drew Stanton & 7th (214), got from Jacksonville Jaguars for DB Dwight Lowery trade, to Indianapolis Colts for 6th (187) DB - Josh Bush.
7th (224) Jets (None)
· Jets trade 7th (224) to Green Bay Packers for OL – Caleb Schlauderaff.
7th (232) Jets via Denver Broncos (None).
· Jets trade 4th (108) & 6th (188) for QB – Tim Tebow & 7th (232) from Denver.
7th (242) COMP - DB - Antonio Allen.
7th (244) COMP - WR – Jordan White.
2011:
1st (30) DL - Muhammad Wilkerson.
2nd (61) Jets (None).
· Jets trade 2nd (61) to San Diego Chargers for CB Antonio Cromartie (Became a free agent in 2011, resigned by Jets).
3rd (94) DT - Kenrick Ellis.
4th (126) RB - Bilal Powell.
5th (153) WR – Jeremy Kerley.
· Jets trade 5th (161) & 6th (194) to Philadelphia Eagles for 5th (153) WR - Jeremy Kerley & 7th (227).
6th (194) Jets (None).
· Jets trade 5th (161) & 6th (194) to Philadelphia Eagles for 5th (153) WR - Jeremy Kerley & 7th (227).
7th (231) Jets (None).
· Jets trade 7th (231) to Detroit Lions for QB – Kevin O’Connell. Trade made Sept. 6, 2009. (2009 & 2011, zero games).
7th (208) QB – Greg McElroy.
· Jets get 7th (208) from Arizona Cardinals, 2010 Kerry Rhodes trade, pick QB – Greg McElroy.
7th (227) WR – Scotty McKnight.
· Jets trade 5th (161) & 6th (194) to Philadelphia Eagles for 5th (153) WR - Jeremy Kerley & 7th (227) pick WR – Scotty McKnight.
2010:
1st (29) - Kyle Wilson.
2nd (61) - Vladimir Ducasse.
3rd (92) Jets (None).
· Jets trade 3rd (92) & 5th (160) to Cleveland for WR- Braylon Edwards (12 games 2009, 16 games 2010).
4th (127) Jets (None).
· Jets trade 4th (127) to Philadelphia Eagles for CB - Lito Sheppard, get 5th (155) from Philadelphia Eagles.
4th (112) RB – Joe McKnight.
· Jets trade 4th (124), from Arizona Cardinals for Kerry Rhodes, & 6th (198) for 4th (112) from Carolina Panthers, Jets select RB – Joe McKnight.
5th (139) FB- John Connor.
· Jets trade Leon Washington & 7th (236) to Seattle Seahawks for 5th (139) Jets select FB- John Connor.
5th (155) Jets via Philadelphia (None).
· Jets trade 5th (155), got from Philadelphia Eagles swap 4th – 127 (Jets) & 5th – 155 (Eagles) - CB Lito Sheppard, then traded (155) to Pittsburgh Steelers for WR Santonio Holmes (2010, 12 games 52 REC, 746 YRDS, 2011, 16 games, 51 REC, 654 YRDS). Became a free agent after 2010, resigned by Jets.
5th (160) Jets (None)
· Jets trade 3rd (92) & 5th (160) to Cleveland for WR- Braylon Edwards (12 games 2009, 16 games 2010).
6th (198) Jets (None).
· Jets trade 4th (124), from Arizona Cardinals for Kerry Rhodes, & 6th (198) for 4th (112) from Carolina Panthers, Jets select RB – Joe McKnight.
7th (236) Jets (None)
· Jets trade Leon Washington & 7th (236) to Seattle Seahawks for 5th (139) Jets select FB- John Connor.
2009:
1st (5) QB – Mark Sanchez.
· Jets trade 1st (17) & 2nd (52) to Cleveland Browns for 1st (5) QB – Mark Sanchez.
2nd (52) Jets (None).
· Jets trade 1st (17) & 2nd (52) to Cleveland Browns for 1st (5) QB – Mark Sanchez.
3rd (65) RB - Shonn Greene
· Jets Trade 3rd (76), got from New Orleans Saints for Vilma trade, 4th (115), from Washington Redskins for 2007 Pete Kendall trade, and 7th (228) to Detroit Lions for 3rd (65) RB - Shonn Greene.
3rd (76) Jets via New Orleans (None)
· Jets Trade 3rd (76), got from New Orleans Saints for Vilma trade, 4th (115), from Washington Redskins for 2007 Pete Kendall trade, and 7th (228) to Detroit Lions for 3rd (65) RB - Shonn Greene.
3rd (83) Jets (None).
· Jets trade 3rd (83) to Green Bay for QB – Brett Favre (One season 2008); GB used to trade up for Clay Mathews.
4th (115) Jets via Washington (None)
· Jets Trade 3rd (76), got from New Orleans Saints for Vilma trade, 4th (115), from Washington Redskins for 2007 Pete Kendall trade, and 7th (228) to Detroit Lions for 3rd (65) RB - Shonn Greene.
4th (118) Jets (None)
· Jets gave their 4th (118) round pick to New Orleans, Jets got 3rd (76) New Orleans, Vilma trade.
5th (153) Jets (None)
· Jets trade 5th (153) to Philadelphia Eagles for CB – Lito Sheppard (One season 2009)
6th (193) OL- Matt Slauson
7th (228) Jets (None)
· Jets Trade 3rd (76), got from New Orleans Saints for Vilma trade, 4th (115), from Washington Redskins for 2007 Pete Kendall trade, and 7th (228) to Detroit Lions for 3rd (65) RB - Shonn Greene.
2008:
1st (6) DE/OLB – Vernon Gholston .
1st (30) TE - Dustin Keller.
· Jets trade 2nd (36) & 4th (113), Got from New Orleans Saints for Vilma trade, to Green Bay for 1st (30) draft TE - Dustin Keller.
2nd (36) Jets (None).
· Jets trade 2nd (36) & 4th (113), Got from New Orleans Saints for Vilma trade, to Green Bay for 1st (30) draft TE - Dustin Keller.
3rd (67) Jets (None).

· Jets trade a 3rd (67) & 5th (141) to Carolina Panthers for Kris Jenkins NT/DT. (2008 – 16 games, 2009 - 6 games, 2010 – 1 game).
4th (102) Jets (None).
4th (113) DB - Dwight Lowery.
· Green Bay trades 4th (113) – Jets pick DB - Dwight Lowery and 5th (162) Jets pick QB - Erik Ainge for Jets 4th (102).
5th QB - Erik Ainge.
· Green Bay trades 4th (113) – Jets pick DB - Dwight Lowery and 5th (162) Jets pick QB - Erik Ainge for Jets 4th (102).
6th (171) WR - Marcus Henry.
7th (211) OT - Nate Garner.
2007:
1st CB - Darrelle Revis.
· Jets trade 1st (25), 2nd (59) & 5th (164) to Carolina Panthers for 1st (14) pick CB - Darrelle Revis.
1st (25) Jets (None)
2nd (37) Jets None
· Jets traded 2nd (37), obtained from Washington Redskins in Jets trade-back made in 2006, then traded pick to Chicago Bears for RB Thomas Jones & Bears 2nd (63).
2nd (47) LB - David Harris
· Jets trade 2nd (63), obtained from Chicago Bears, 3rd (89) & 6th (191) to Green Bay Packers for 2nd (47) LB - David Harris & Green Bay 7th (235), used by Jets to pick WR Chansi Stuckey .
2nd (63) Jets via Chicago Bears (None)
· Jets traded 2nd (37), obtained from Washington Redskins in Jets trade-back made in 2006, then traded pick to Chicago Bears for RB Thomas Jones & Bears 2nd (63).
3rd (89) Jet (None)
· Jets trade 2nd (63), obtained from Chicago Bears, 3rd (89) & 6th (191) to Green Bay Packers for 2nd (47) LB - David Harris & Green Bay 7th (235), used by Jets to pick WR Chansi Stuckey .
4th Jets (None)
· Jets trade 4th (124) to San Francisco 49ers for RB Kevan Barlow (One season, 2006, 12 games, 370 YDS, 2.8 YPC).
6th (177) OT – Jacob Bender.
· Tampa Bay Buccaneers Trade 6th (177) for Jets TE – Doug Jolley, Jets use (177) selected OT – Jacob Bender.
6th (191) Jets (None)
· Jets trade 2nd (63), obtained from Chicago Bears, 3rd (89) & 6th (191) to Green Bay Packers for 2nd (47) LB - David Harris & Green Bay 7th (235), used by Jets to pick WR Chansi Stuckey .
7th (212) Jets via Detroit 9None)
· Jets trade DB – John McGraw to Detroit Lions for 7th (212), Jets then trade this pick (212) to Dallas Cowboys for TE – Sean Ryan (2009, 6 Rec. 44 YRDS; 2010 3 Rec. 6 YRDS).
7th (235) WR - Chansi Stuckey
· Jets trade 7th pick (735) to Green Bay Packers OL Steve Morley in 2005 but Green Bay traded it back in the David Harris Deal, Jets select WR - Chansi Stuckey.
2006:
1st (4) OT – D’Brickashaw Ferguson.
1st (29) C – Nick Mangold.
· Jets traded DE – John Abraham to Atlanta Falcons for 1st (29) select C – Nick Mangold.
2nd (35) Jets (None).
· Jets traded 2nd (35) to Washington Redskins for their 2nd (53), 6th (189) and 2007, 2nd round pick.
2nd (49) QB – Kellen Clemens.
Jets trade 2nd (53), 6th (189), got from Washington Redskins trade, & 7th (211) got Dallas Cowboys 2nd (49) select QB – Kellen Clemens.
3rd (71) Jets (none).
3rd (76) LB - Anthony Schlegel.
· Jets trade 3rd (71) to Philadelphia Eagles for 3rd (76), Jets select LB - Anthony Schlegel, & 7th (220) DL- Titus Adams.
3rd (97) DB – Eric Smith (Compensatory).
4th (103) WR/QB/KR – Brad Smith.
4th (117) RB – Leon Washington.
· Jets traded Head Coach Herman Edwards to Kansas City Chiefs for 4th (117) Jets select RB – Leon Washington.
5th (138) Jets (None).
· Jets trade 5th (138) to Dallas Cowboys for their 5th (150) & 6th (189), originally Jets pick via Washington Redskins then traded to Dallas Cowboys in Kellen Clemens 2nd (49) trade but Jets got it back by trading back from (138), get (5th 150, select TE - Jason Pociask & 6th 189, CB - Drew Coleman).
5th (150) TE - Jason Pociask.
· Jets trade 5th (138) to Dallas Cowboys for their 5th (150) & 6th (189), originally Jets pick via Washington Redskins then traded to Dallas Cowboys in Kellen Clemens 2nd (49) trade but Jets got it back by trading back from (138), get (5th 150, select TE - Jason Pociask & 6th 189, CB - Drew Coleman).
6th (173) Jets (None).
· Jets trade 6th (173) to Washington Redskins for QB – Patrick Ramesy (One season 2006, one pass attempt, incomplete).
6th (189) CB - Drew Coleman.
· Jets trade 5th (138) to Dallas Cowboys for their 5th (150) & 6th (189), originally Jets pick via Washington Redskins then traded to Dallas Cowboys in Kellen Clemens 2nd (49) trade but Jets got it back by trading back from (138), get (5th 150, select TE - Jason Pociask & 6th 189, CB - Drew Coleman).
7th (211) Jets (None)
Jets trade 2nd (53), 6th (189), got from Washington Redskins trade, & 7th (211) got Dallas Cowboys 2nd (49) select QB – Kellen Clemens.
7th (220) DL- Titus Adams.
· Jets trade 3rd (71) to Philadelphia Eagles for 3rd (76), Jets select LB - Anthony Schlegel, & 7th (220) DL- Titus Adams.
Players for picks:
2006)
· Jets traded DE – John Abraham to Atlanta Falcons for 1st (29) select C – Nick Mangold.
· Jets traded Head Coach Herman Edwards to Kansas City Chiefs for 4th (117) Jets select RB – Leon Washington.
2007)
· Tampa Bay Buccaneers Trade 6th (177) for Jets TE – Doug Jolley, Jets use 6th (177) selected OT – Jacob Bender.
· Jets trade DB (August 2005) – John McGraw to Detroit Lions for 7th (212), eventually traded to Dallas for TE- Sean Ryan (2009, 6 Rec. 44 YRDS; 2010 3 Rec. 6 YRDS).
2008)
· Jets got 4th (113), from New Orleans Saints for Vilma trade.
2009)
· Jets gave their 4th (118) round pick to New Orleans, Jets got 3rd (76) New Orleans, Vilma trade.
· Jets got 4th (115) from Washington Redskins for 2007 Pete Kendall trade.
2010)
· Jets acquire 4th (124), from Arizona Cardinals for Kerry Rhodes.
· Jets trade Leon Washington & 7th (236) to Seattle Seahawks for 5th (139) Jets select FB- John Connor.
2011)
· Jets get 7th (208) from Arizona Cardinals, 2010 Kerry Rhodes trade, pick QB – Greg McElroy.
2012)
· Jets trade QB – Drew Stanton & 7th (214), got from Jacksonville Jaguars for DB Dwight Lowery trade, to Indianapolis Colts for 6th (187) DB - Josh Bush.
· Jets get 7th (214) from Jacksonville Jaguars for DB Dwight Lowery.
Picks for players:
2006)
· Jets trade 6th (173) to Washington Redskins for QB – Patrick Ramesy (One season 2006, one pass attempt, incomplete).
2007)
· Jets traded 2nd (37), obtained from Washington Redskins in Jets trade-back made in 2006, then traded pick to Chicago Bears for RB Thomas Jones & Bears 2nd (63).
· Jets trade 4th (124) to San Francisco 49ers for RB Kevan Barlow, trade made in august 2006, (One season, 2006, 12 games, 370 YDS, 2.8 YPC).
· Jets trade DB – John McGraw to Detroit Lions for 7th (212), Jets then trade this pick (212) to Dallas Cowboys for TE – Sean Ryan (2006, 16 games, 6 REC, 44 YRDS, 2007, 10 Games, 3 REC, 46 YRDS).
2008)
· Jets trade a 3rd (67) & 5th (141) to Carolina Panthers for Kris Jenkins NT/DT. (2008 – 16 games, 2009 - 6 games, 2010 – 1 game).
2009)
· Jets trade 3rd (83) to Green Bay for QB Brett Favre (One season 2008). GB used to trade up for Clay Mathews.
· Jets trade 5th (153) to Philadelphia Eagles for CB – Lito Sheppard (One season 2009).
2010)
· Jets trade 3rd (92) & 5th (160) to Cleveland for WR- Braylon Edwards (12 games 2009, 16 games 2010).
· Jets trade 4th (127) to Philadelphia Eagles for CB - Lito Sheppard, get 5th (155) from Philadelphia Eagles.
· Jets trade 5th (155), got from Philadelphia Eagles swap 4th (127) for CB Lito Sheppard, then traded (155) to Pittsburgh Steelers for WR Santonio Holmes (2010, 12 games 52 REC, 746 YRDS, 2011, 16 games, 51 REC, 654 YRDS). Became a free agent after 2010, resigned by Jets.
2011)
· Jets trade 2nd (61) to San Diego Chargers for CB Antonio Cromartie (Became a free agent in 2011, resigned by Jets).
· Jets trade 7th (231) to Detroit Lions for QB – Kevin O’Connell.
2012)
· Jets trade 4th (108) & 6th (188) for QB – Tim Tebow & 7th (232) from Denver.
· Jets trade 7th (224) to Green Bay Packers for OL – Caleb Schlauderaff.

Trade backs for extra picks:
2006)
· Jets traded 2nd (35) to Washington Redskins for their 2nd (53), 6th (189) and 2007, 2nd round pick.
· Jets trade 3rd (71) to Philadelphia Eagles for 3rd (76), Jets select LB - Anthony Schlegel, & 7th (220) DL- Titus Adams.
· Jets trade 5th (138) to Dallas Cowboys for their 5th (150) & 6th (189), originally Jets pick via Washington Redskins then traded to Dallas Cowboys for Kellen Clemens trade but Jets got it back by trading back from (138), get (5th 150, select TE - Jason Pociask & 6th 189, CB - Drew Coleman).
2008)
· Green Bay obtain 4th (102), Jets get (113 – Jets pick DB Dwight Lowery) and 5th (162 QB – Jets pick QB Erik Ainge).
Trade up in draft losing picks:
2006)
· Jets trade 2nd (53), 6th (189), got from Washington Redskins trade, & 7th (211) got Dallas Cowboys 2nd (49) select QB – Kellen Clemens.
2007)
· Jets trade 1st (25), 2nd (59) & 5th (164) to Carolina Panthers for 1st (14) pick CB Darrelle Revis.
· Jets trade 2nd (63), obtained from Chicago Bears, 3rd (89) & 6th (191) to Green Bay Packers for 2nd (47) David Harris & Green Bay 7th (235), used by Jets to pick WR Chansi Stuckey .
2008)
· Jets trade 2nd (36) & 4th (113), Got from New Orleans Saints for Vilma trade, to Green Bay for 1st (30) draft Dustin Keller - TE.
2009)
· Jets trade 1st (17) & 2nd (52) to Cleveland Browns for 1st (5) QB – Mark Sanchez.
· Jets Trade 3rd (76), got from New Orleans Saints for Vilma trade, 4th (115), from Washington Redskins for 2007 Pete Kendall trade, and 7th (228) to Detroit Lions for 3rd (65) RB - Shonn Greene.
2010)
· Jets trade 4th (124), from Arizona Cardinals for Kerry Rhodes, & 6th (198) for 4th (112) from Carolina Panthers, Jets select RB – Joe McKnight.
2011)
· Jets trade 5th (161) & 6th (194) to Philadelphia Eagles for 5th (153) WR - Jeremy Kerley & 7th (227), from Philadelphia Eagles, pick WR – Scotty McKnight.
2012)
· Jets trade 2nd (47), 5th (154) & 7th (232) to Seattle Seahawks for 2nd (43) WR – Stephen Hill.
2006:
Players for picks:
2006)
Jets traded DE – John Abraham to Atlanta Falcons for 1st (29) select C – Nick Mangold.
Jets traded Head Coach Herman Edwards to Kansas City Chiefs for 4th (117) Jets select RB – Leon Washington.
Picks for players:
2006)
Jets trade 6th (173) to Washington Redskins for QB – Patrick Ramesy (One season 2006, one pass attempt, incomplete).
Trade backs for extra picks:
2006)
Jets traded own 2nd (35) to Washington Redskins for their 2nd (53), 6th (189) and 2007, 2nd round pick.
Jets trade own 3rd (71) to Philadelphia Eagles for 3rd (76), Jets select LB - Anthony Schlegel, & 7th (220) DL- Titus Adams.
Jets trade own 5th (138) to Dallas Cowboys for their 5th (150) & 6th (189), originally Jets pick via Washington Redskins then traded to Dallas Cowboys for Kellen Clemens trade but Jets got it back by trading back from (138), get (5th 150, select TE - Jason Pociask & 6th 189, CB - Drew Coleman).
Trade up in draft losing picks:
2006)
Jets trade 2nd (53), 6th (189), got from Washington Redskins trade, & Jets own 7th (211) got Dallas Cowboys 2nd (49) select QB – Kellen Clemens.
2007:
Players for picks:
2007)
Tampa Bay Buccaneers Trade 6th (177) for Jets TE – Doug Jolley, Jets use 6th (177) selected OT – Jacob Bender.
Jets trade DB (August 2005) – John McGraw to Detroit Lions for 7th (212), eventually traded to Dallas for TE- Sean Ryan (2009, 6 Rec. 44 YRDS; 2010 3 Rec. 6 YRDS).
Picks for players:
2007)
Jets trade DB – John McGraw to Detroit Lions for 7th (212), Jets then trade this pick (212) to Dallas Cowboys for TE – Sean Ryan (2006, 16 games, 6 REC, 44 YRDS, 2007, 10 Games, 3 REC, 46 YRDS).
Jets trade 4th (124) to San Francisco 49ers for RB Kevan Barlow, trade made in august 2006, (One season, 2006, 12 games, 370 YDS, 2.8 YPC).
Jets traded 2nd (37), obtained from Washington Redskins in Jets trade-back made in 2006, then traded pick to Chicago Bears for RB Thomas Jones & Bears 2nd (63).
Trade up in draft losing picks:
2007)
Jets trade 1st (25), 2nd (59) & 5th (164) to Carolina Panthers for 1st (14) pick CB Darrelle Revis. (Lose 2 picks)
Jets trade 2nd (63), obtained from Chicago Bears, 3rd (89) & 6th (191) to Green Bay Packers for 2nd (47) David Harris & Green Bay 7th (235), used by Jets to pick WR Chansi Stuckey . (Lose 1 pick)
2008:
Players for picks:
2008)
Jets got 4th (113), from New Orleans Saints for Vilma trade.
Jets traded 4th (113) along with 2nd (36) to Green Bay for 1st (30) select Dustin Keller.
Green Bay trades 4th (113) – Jets pick DB Dwight Lowery and 5th (162) Jets pick QB Erik Ainge for Jets 4th (102).
Picks for players:
2008)
Jets trade a 3rd (67) & 5th (141) to Carolina Panthers for Kris Jenkins NT/DT. (2008 – 16 games, 2009 - 6 games, 2010 – 1 game)
Jets got 4th (113) from New Orleans Saints for Vilma trade.
Jets trade 2nd (36) & 4th (113), Got from New Orleans Saints for Vilma trade, to Green Bay for 1st (30) draft Dustin Keller - TE.
Trade backs for extra picks:
2008)
Green Bay trade for Jets 4th (102) gave up (4th (113) – Jets pick DB Dwight Lowery and 5th (162) QB – Jets pick QB Erik Ainge).

Trade up in draft losing picks:
2008)
Jets trade 2nd (36) & 4th (113), Got from New Orleans Saints for Vilma trade, to Green Bay for 1st (30) draft Dustin Keller - TE.
2009:
Players for picks:
2009)
Jets got 3rd (76) from New Orleans Saints trade for Vilma.
Jets got 4th (115) from Washington Redskins for 2007 Pete Kendall trade.
Jets Trade 3rd (76), got from New Orleans Saints for Vilma trade, 4th (115), from Washington Redskins for 2007 Pete Kendall trade, and 7th (228) to Detroit Lions for 3rd (65) RB - Shonn Greene.
Picks for players:
2009)
Jets trade 3rd (83) to Green Bay for QB Brett Favre (One season 2008).
Jets trade 5th (153) to Philadelphia Eagles for CB – Lito Sheppard (One season 2009).
Trade up in draft losing picks:
2009)
Jets trade 1st (17) & 2nd (52) to Cleveland Browns for 1st (5) QB – Mark Sanchez. (Lose 1 pick)
Jets Trade 3rd (76), got from New Orleans Saints for Vilma trade, 4th (115), from Washington Redskins for 2007 Pete Kendall trade, and 7th (228) to Detroit Lions for 3rd (65) RB - Shonn Greene. (Lose 2 picks)
2010:
Players for picks:
2010)
Jets acquire 4th (124), from Arizona Cardinals for Kerry Rhodes.
Jets trade 4th (124), & 6th (198) for 4th (112) from Carolina Panthers, Jets select RB – Joe McKnight.
Jets trade Leon Washington & 7th (236) to Seattle Seahawks for 5th (139) Jets select FB- John Connor.
Picks for players:
2010)
Jets trade 3rd (92) & 5th (160) to Cleveland for WR- Braylon Edwards (12 games 2009, 16 games 2010).
Jets trade 4th (127) to Philadelphia Eagles for CB - Lito Sheppard, get 5th (155) from Philadelphia Eagles.
Jets trade 5th (155), got from Philadelphia Eagles swap 4th (127) for CB Lito Sheppard, then traded (155) to Pittsburgh Steelers for WR Santonio Holmes (2010, 12 games 52 REC, 746 YRDS, 2011, 16 games, 51 REC, 654 YRDS). Became a free agent after 2010, resigned by Jets.
Trade up in draft losing picks:
2010)
Jets trade 4th (124), from Arizona Cardinals for Kerry Rhodes, & 6th (198) for 4th (112) from Carolina Panthers, Jets select RB – Joe McKnight.
2011:
Players for picks:
2011)
Jets get 7th (208) from Arizona Cardinals, 2010 Kerry Rhodes trade, pick QB – Greg McElroy.
Trade up in draft losing picks:
2011)
Jets trade 5th (161) & 6th (194) to Philadelphia Eagles for 5th (153) WR - Jeremy Kerley & 7th (227), from Philadelphia Eagles, pick WR – Scotty McKnight. (Even)
Picks for players:
2011)
Jets trade 2nd (61) to San Diego Chargers for CB Antonio Cromartie (Became a free agent in 2011, resigned by Jets).
Jets trade 7th (231) to Detroit Lions for QB – Kevin O’Connell.
2012:
Players for picks:
2012)
Jets get 7th (214) from Jacksonville Jaguars for DB Dwight Lowery.
Jets trade QB – Drew Stanton & 7th (214), got from Jacksonville Jaguars for DB Dwight Lowery trade, to Indianapolis Colts for 6th (187) DB - Josh Bush.
Picks for players:
2012)
Jets trade 4th (108) & 6th (188) for QB – Tim Tebow & 7th (232) from Denver.
Trade up in draft losing picks:
2012)
Jets trade 2nd (47), 5th (154) & 7th (232) to Seattle Seahawks for 2nd (43) WR – Stephen Hill.
Jets Trades:
John Abraham:
2006) To Atlanta Falcons for their 1st (29)
Coach Herm Edwards:
2006) Traded Head Coach Herman Edwards to Kansas City Chiefs for 4th (117)
2007)
Tampa Bay Buccaneers Trade 6th (177) for Jets TE – Doug Jolley, Jets use 6th (177).
Jets trade DB (August 2005) – John McGraw to Detroit Lions for 7th (212), eventually traded to Dallas for TE- Sean Ryan.
Jonathan Vilma:
2008) Jets got 4th (113), from New Orleans Saints for Vilma trade.
2009) Jets gave their 4th (118) round pick to New Orleans, Jets got 3rd (76) New Orleans, Vilma trade.
Kerry Rhodes:
2010) Jets acquire 4th (124), from Arizona Cardinals.
2011) Jets get 7th (208), from Arizona Cardinals.
Leon Washington:
2010) Jets trade Leon Washington & 7th (236) to Seattle Seahawks for 5th (139).
Dwight Lowery:
2012) Jets get 7th (214) from Jacksonville Jaguars


Pretty damn sure I was talking to Maxman, not you. Unless, you are someone else he failed to credit in the blog post.

Ok......
BD

Edited by BlackDynamite, 30 November 2012 - 08:13 PM.

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#53 denden29

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 08:24 PM

If copying and pasting entires and footnotes from Wikipedia under bolded headers qualifies as work and research then I am in the wrong ****ing business.


Why don't you go to Wikipedia and produce the same document I did to use as a reference for all the moves Tannenbaum has made during the draft. You will see that you need to use many resources and cutting and pasting from these resources is not an option.

I had to find corresponding articles to every draft move either remembering who was traded when and what they gave up or got so I could like them later if needed. I also had to categorize the articles. I broke up the moves into separate categorize to make them easier to find and insert into any article I was going to write.

Fact is I gathered resources to be prepared for when a Tannenbaum article would be appropriate and planned on doing more than one on Tanny’s record. Like how he changed his drafting/building strategy since 2007 or how Woody Johnson has possible been calling the shoots, but I guess I just stole that as well or maybe I can just cut and paste it.

The bottom line is the appreciation for the hard work I put into this piece was to say I stole it and put my name on it and then just cut and paste some stuff. Two things which are just not true.
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Posted 30 November 2012 - 08:29 PM

Pretty damn sure I was talking to Maxman, not you. Unless, you are someone else he failed to credit in the blog post.

Ok......
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No you accused ME of stealing this and I don’t like being called a plagiarizer. Please show me where Jason did anything like this. Sure some of these moves have probably been criticized by Jason along with countless others but this, like all my other articles, are of my own hard work, I don’t need to copy anything anyone else does, so no not OK!
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Posted 30 November 2012 - 08:34 PM

Why don't you go to Wikipedia and produce the same document I did to use as a reference for all the moves Tannenbaum has made during the draft. You will see that you need to use many resources and cutting and pasting from these resources is not an option.

I had to find corresponding articles to every draft move either remembering who was traded when and what they gave up or got so I could like them later if needed. I also had to categorize the articles. I broke up the moves into separate categorize to make them easier to find and insert into any article I was going to write.

Fact is I gathered resources to be prepared for when a Tannenbaum article would be appropriate and planned on doing more than one on Tanny’s record. Like how he changed his drafting/building strategy since 2007 or how Woody Johnson has possible been calling the shoots, but I guess I just stole that as well or maybe I can just cut and paste it.

The bottom line is the appreciation for the hard work I put into this piece was to say I stole it and put my name on it and then just cut and paste some stuff. Two things which are just not true.


With how defensive you're getting, you're not helping your cause very much.
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(Chandler)'s a nice piece as long as he's the 7th most important player on your roster....I think they're going to be disappointed when they see he's just a pumped-up Drew Gooden.


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Posted 30 November 2012 - 08:40 PM

With how defensive you're getting, you're not helping your cause very much.


Not helping what cause, I could care less if every post in this forum said this was the worst piece of garbage they ever read but it has my name on it and was done via my effort no one else’s. Jason has a wonderful site I would recommend to anyone but he writes in this forum so let’s see if he thinks I stole this article from him?
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Posted 30 November 2012 - 08:47 PM

Not helping what cause, I could care less if every post in this forum said this was the worst piece of garbage they ever read but it has my name on it and was done via my effort no one else’s. Jason has a wonderful site I would recommend to anyone but he writes in this forum so let’s see if he thinks I stole this article from him?


The cause that this isn't consolidated Wikipedia entries.
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(Chandler)'s a nice piece as long as he's the 7th most important player on your roster....I think they're going to be disappointed when they see he's just a pumped-up Drew Gooden.


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Posted 30 November 2012 - 09:03 PM

The bottom line is the appreciation for the hard work I put into this piece was to say I stole it and put my name on it and then just cut and paste some stuff. Two things which are just not true.


If you're going to be in the content business you're just going to have to grow up and put this ridiculous notion that anybody cares about your hard work right out of your mind. I'm being constructive here. The level of detail you went into on the individual transactions doesn't really bolster your argument in any way. This isn't research you had to do. It's time you wasted Googling. What you think is your process is really just a distraction. Next time just sit down, close the browser, and make your point. And knock it off with the quotation marks.
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Posted 30 November 2012 - 09:05 PM

The cause that this isn't consolidated Wikipedia entries.


Here is the link to the article in question read it and prove I cut and paste from Wikipedia to make it.

http://www.jetnation...ary-cap-novice/

The document I copy and pasted in the post was 2 word documents I typed out myself after verifying moves by finding articles that match what happened. I remember all the trades the Jets have made since Tannenbaum became GM I don’t need nor would trust Wikipedia as a reliable source otherwise I would have just linked them and not the articles I did. Please go through every article I’ve done on JN and you will not find one link to Wikipedia!

Do you think Wikipedia mentions Santonio Holmes became a free agent in 2010? No, I added in information to use later a history of what happen to the player after the draft or does Wikipedia have Kris Jenkins years and games played, no, etc, etc. I put in so much information to use in this article, like I always do, using my own time.

The fact is the document I have has everything I need to break down the Tannenbaum’s drafts without forgetting things and links to back them up
I broke my ass for 2 weeks to get the information correct and link up articles to prove my points so I would be reminded that Cromartie became a free agent after 2011 and then he signed a large contract.

So NO THIS IS NOT WIKIPEDIA and you’re welcome please keep enjoying my work.
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Posted 30 November 2012 - 09:13 PM

Do you think Wikipedia mentions Santonio Holmes became a free agent in 2010?


I'd certainly hope not.
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Posted 30 November 2012 - 09:18 PM

If you're going to be in the content business you're just going to have to grow up and put this ridiculous notion that anybody cares about your hard work right out of your mind. I'm being constructive here. The level of detail you went into on the individual transactions doesn't really bolster your argument in any way. This isn't research you had to do. It's time you wasted Googling. What you think is your process is really just a distraction. Next time just sit down, close the browser, and make your point. And knock it off with the quotation marks.


You’re missing the point I work hard on every piece I do for JN and understanding the CBA isn’t exactly easy. The thing was someone said I stole this article, not true, I worked hard on it did the proper research cause I’m held to a higher standard. I can simple cut and paste anything without proper citing unlike forum post. The hard work aspect is that it was “my work” not someone else’s that produced this article.

You also have no clue about how I get information. I use many sources, like people at the NFL or former NFL executive to verify information, yes I know these types of people. You all think it is so easy just use Google well remember my name is on this and the accuracy of anything I do is of utmost importance.

The forum folks have criticized my work before and I usually don’t respond cause they are entitled to their opinion even if it is different than mine but do not accuse me of stealing material, that is not fair to me and I will than fight back not just accept it.
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Posted 30 November 2012 - 09:24 PM

No you accused ME of stealing this and I don’t like being called a plagiarizer. Please show me where Jason did anything like this. Sure some of these moves have probably been criticized by Jason along with countless others but this, like all my other articles, are of my own hard work, I don’t need to copy anything anyone else does, so no not OK!


Slow your ignorance.

Madman started this forum. Do you not see that?

Compare the first post, where his name posts, not yours, to the top article at NYJetsCap.com Then talk to me.....
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Posted 30 November 2012 - 09:30 PM

Slow your ignorance.

Madman started this forum. Do you not see that?

Compare the first post, where his name posts, not yours, to the top article at NYJetsCap.com Then talk to me.....
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Well D.B. can fight you on this one considering the first article on Jason’s page “Focus on Decision Making not the Salary Cap” was put up on November 30th while my article was put up on November 29th, so I guess I’m a mind reader.

http://www.jetnation...ary-cap-novice/
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Posted 30 November 2012 - 09:36 PM

The forum folks have criticized my work before and I usually don’t respond cause they are entitled to their opinion even if it is different than mine but do not accuse me of stealing material, that is not fair to me and I will than fight back not just accept it.


See, Jason's article is like dun-dun-dun-dundundun-dun, dun-dun-dun-dundundun-dun.

And yours is like dun-dun-dun-dundundun-dun, DA-dun-dun-dun-dundundun-dun.

You're both so proud of yourselves that I can't figure out how it matters a fraction of a flash what anybody else thinks anyway.
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Posted 30 November 2012 - 09:43 PM

See, Jason's article is like dun-dun-dun-dundundun-dun, dun-dun-dun-dundundun-dun.

And yours is like dun-dun-dun-dundundun-dun, DA-dun-dun-dun-dundundun-dun.

You're both so proud of yourselves that I can't figure out how it matters a fraction of a flash what anybody else thinks anyway.


Not True

Jason's article is like: dun-dun-dun-dundundun-dun TEBOW, dun-dun-dun- (TEBOW) dundundun-dun.

And mine is like dun-dun-dun-dundundun-dun SANCHEZ, DA-dun-dun-dun-dundundun (SANCHEZ)-dun.
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Posted 30 November 2012 - 09:53 PM

I use many sources, like people at the NFL or former NFL executive to verify information, yes I know these types of people. You all think it is so easy just use Google well remember my name is on this and the accuracy of anything I do is of utmost importance.


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(Chandler)'s a nice piece as long as he's the 7th most important player on your roster....I think they're going to be disappointed when they see he's just a pumped-up Drew Gooden.


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Posted 30 November 2012 - 10:42 PM

but it's the trading up that's the reason the jets have no depth so 2 injuries sinks a season

and he goes after too many celebrities and not enough value starters

fire his ass
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Posted 01 December 2012 - 12:23 AM

I see you failed to give Jason Malito his due for this article over at NYJetsCap.com, and passed this off as your own.....

Nice!
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What are you talking about?
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Posted 01 December 2012 - 12:31 AM

If copying and pasting entires and footnotes from Wikipedia under bolded headers qualifies as work and research then I am in the wrong ****ing business.


Why did you stop writing articles? You should know, better than anyone, that this stuff takes work.
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Posted 01 December 2012 - 12:34 AM

Slow your ignorance.

Madman started this forum. Do you not see that?

Compare the first post, where his name posts, not yours, to the top article at NYJetsCap.com Then talk to me.....
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Hey, I don't think we met. I am the guy who owns this site and has poured my heart, soul and money into it for the last 8 years.

You are the guy who I have no idea about, except the 10 complaints I got about you asking for you to be banned. I haven't read all of your posts, so I am giving you the benefit of the doubt.

But if you are going to accuse people of stealing, you should first make sure it has any validity. In this case it doesn't.
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Posted 01 December 2012 - 12:36 AM

Mangold plays center. He's great, but he's a center. Further, Tannenbaum doesn't get genius status for selecting the highest rated center and having it pay off. Same goes for Revis... D'Brick too....

7 years and he still has no QB.... He's been a failure.


LOL. So Tanny gets no credit for drafting a Hall of Fame Center and a Hall of Fame Cornerback. Got it.
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Posted 01 December 2012 - 12:39 AM

With how defensive you're getting, you're not helping your cause very much.


The guy said he stole it. Others claimed it wasn't work.

Knowing how much time Dennis puts in on the site, I would be getting defensive too.
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Posted 01 December 2012 - 01:12 AM

The guy said he stole it. Others claimed it wasn't work.

Knowing how much time Dennis puts in on the site, I would be getting defensive too.


Awwww come on Max, I was just having a little fun and breaking some balls. Now I feel like Billy Bats.
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Posted 01 December 2012 - 06:19 AM

Revis was a better draft pick than Namath. Namath was #1 overall. The Colts could make that pick. Are they geniuses for ending up with Peyton Manning, Luck and Jeff George? Hell they even had the Elway slot.

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I agree. Revis was the draft's best corner. The Jets needed a corner. Not a genius pick. I do not think they could have projected him to be this good, coming out of the Big East. I think you can project players to some extent, but they usually surprise one way or another.
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Posted 01 December 2012 - 06:42 AM

Reading this thread, I think it's clear that we should hire Eric Mangini to replace Mike Tannenbaum immediately.
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