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#81 Maxman

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Posted 01 December 2012 - 10:15 AM

Maybe it says something about him that the 2 great players he's actually drafted are at lesser valuable positions.


Well CB is a less value position. But when you have the best one in the game, and use him the way the Jets do, I think that shows his worth. Besides if anyone knew how good Revis was going to be, there would have been more people trading up for him.
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Posted 01 December 2012 - 10:16 AM

Awwww come on Max, I was just having a little fun and breaking some balls. Now I feel like Billy Bats.


LOL, who is Billy bats?
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Posted 01 December 2012 - 10:16 AM

Well CB is a less value position. But when you have the best one in the game, and use him the way the Jets do, I think that shows his worth. Besides if anyone knew how good Revis was going to be, there would have been more people trading up for him.

No one knew he would be as good as he is. There is alot of luck involved in that as well.
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Posted 01 December 2012 - 10:17 AM

Reading this thread, I think it's clear that we should hire Eric Mangini to replace Mike Tannenbaum immediately.


All joking aside, it would probably be a really good idea to hire Mangini back in some capacity. Clearly him and Tanny could assemble a roster together. Mangini was not as bad at it in Cleveland as people think either. That pantry was totally empty when he went there. Also, Mangini was not given much time there either, as he was not here. After seeing what Sean Payton means to NO I think its time Woody breaks the bank on a real, proven coach.

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Posted 01 December 2012 - 10:25 AM

I agree. Revis was the draft's best corner. The Jets needed a corner. Not a genius pick. I do not think they could have projected him to be this good, coming out of the Big East. I think you can project players to some extent, but they usually surprise one way or another.


Actually, you disagree. The Jets could have stood pat and gotten that dog Ross like everybody projected. They moved up and got an all-time great. Sure there is luck involved, but you can say that with any of them. If they got lucky with Sanchez who they liked over Freeman we would be calling him a genius.
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Posted 01 December 2012 - 10:44 AM

All joking aside, it would probably be a really good idea to hire Mangini back in some capacity. Clearly him and Tanny could assemble a roster together. Mangini was not as bad at it in Cleveland as people think either. That pantry was totally empty when he went there. Also, Mangini was not given much time there either, as he was not here. After seeing what Sean Payton means to NO I think its time Woody breaks the bank on a real, proven coach.


Mangini pretty much ratted himself out of the league with spygate. Would you hire a guy who you know publicly exposed a previous employer? Costing them money and a draft pick? I wouldn't.
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Posted 01 December 2012 - 10:45 AM

No one knew he would be as good as he is. There is alot of luck involved in that as well.


So he doesn't get credit for good luck. But he gets all the blame for bad luck. Got it.
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Posted 01 December 2012 - 10:47 AM

Mangini pretty much ratted himself out of the league with spygate. Would you hire a guy who you know publicly exposed a previous employer? Costing them money and a draft pick? I wouldn't.


As long as you are doing nothing wrong, what are you worried about?

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Posted 01 December 2012 - 11:06 AM

As long as you are doing nothing wrong, what are you worried about?


Everyone in the league is doing something against the rules. The Jets have been accused of tampering more than a couple times.

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Posted 01 December 2012 - 11:22 AM

Everyone in the league is doing something against the rules. The Jets have been accused of tampering more than a couple times.

No one likes a rat.


How old are you? Do you work in the real world? Serious question.

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Posted 01 December 2012 - 11:27 AM

How old are you? Do you work in the real world? Serious question.


48, yes.

If you don't think every team in the league is breaking the rules, maybe you're the one not living in the real world.

No one's hiring Mangini. Ask yourself why.
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Posted 01 December 2012 - 11:29 AM

48, yes.

No one's hiring Mangini. Ask yourself why.


You don't think the NFL polices itself? I'm sure some teams try to bend the rules - but no one wants to end up like the Saints did.

"No body likes a rat"

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Posted 01 December 2012 - 11:37 AM

You don't think the NFL polices itself? I'm sure some teams try to bend the rules - but no one wants to end up like the Saints did.

"No body likes a rat"

lol

OK Ray Liotta lolz


EVERY team BREAKS the rules. Every last one of them. No one's hiring a whistle blower. At least nowhere in the "real world," a place you seem to've heard of, but yet never visited.
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Posted 01 December 2012 - 11:41 AM

EVERY team BREAKS the rules. Every last one of them. No one's hiring a whistle blower. At least nowhere in the "real world," a place you seem to've heard of, but yet never visited.


Not every team breaks the rules. Bends them, yes. I'm an auditor so I'm assuming it happens about at the same percentage in the NFL as it does in the real world. Some companies actually like to hire ex whistle blowers - because if nothing else it gives the perception that the company cares about doing things the right way. I know this doesn't make sense for you because of all of the Goodfellas movies you watch in your moms basement. But this is true.

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Posted 01 December 2012 - 11:46 AM

Not every team breaks the rules. Bends them, yes. I'm an auditor so I'm assuming it happens about at the same percentage in the NFL as it does in the real world. Some companies actually like to hire ex whistle blowers - because if nothing else it gives the perception that the company cares about doing things the right way. I know this doesn't make sense for you because of all of the Goodfellas movies you watch in your moms basement. But this is true.


Companies =/= NFL teams.

Mafia flicks beat the hell out of the Disney films you seem to enjoy. You must be a helluvan auditor thru those rose-colored glasses.

Eric Mangini remains unemployed. Why?

My mother died a few years ago.

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Posted 01 December 2012 - 11:48 AM

Not every team breaks the rules.


Yeah. They really do.

(Chandler)'s a nice piece as long as he's the 7th most important player on your roster....I think they're going to be disappointed when they see he's just a pumped-up Drew Gooden.


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Posted 01 December 2012 - 11:55 AM

Companies =/= NFL teams.

Mafia flicks beat the hell out of the Disney films you seem to enjoy. You must be a helluvan auditor thru those rose-colored glasses.

Eric Mangini remains unemployed. Why?

My mother died a few years ago.

GFY.


lol! I didn't know auditing was an opinion. I thought it was based on facts and numbers. lol

Idk, why did no one except Parcells want to hire Sean Payton or Tom Coughlin at one time? Why is Jon Gruden and Herm Edwards unemployed? Probably because none of them had great resumes up until that point.

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Posted 01 December 2012 - 12:07 PM

LOL, who is Billy bats?


guy who Joe Pesci whacks in Goodfellas for telling him to "get your ****ing shine box"

Id post the video but its not exactly forum friendly.
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Posted 01 December 2012 - 12:08 PM

You don't think the NFL polices itself? I'm sure some teams try to bend the rules - but no one wants to end up like the Saints did.

"No body likes a rat"

lol

OK Ray Liotta lolz


That makes 2 goodfellas references in one thread. Its gonna be a good day
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Posted 01 December 2012 - 03:36 PM

48, yes.

If you don't think every team in the league is breaking the rules, maybe you're the one not living in the real world.

No one's hiring Mangini. Ask yourself why.


Call it a hunch but I think it has something to do with his .413 winning percentage. Nobody is going to run to hire a guy that won 10 of his last 32 games.
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