Leisureforce
Posted 02 December 2012 - 09:11 PM
I think the fact he is NOT Sanchez or Tebow is pretty strong attribute.
(Chandler)'s a nice piece as long as he's the 7th most important player on your roster....I think they're going to be disappointed when they see he's just a pumped-up Drew Gooden.
An Original JNer
Posted 02 December 2012 - 09:14 PM
And he's dirt cheap and might just be the actual game managing, leader-type the Jets need. He actually fits the blabber mouth, coach's philosophy. God forbid if he's worth his salt as a steady, consistent, middle of the pack, game manager, a la Alex Smith, given his contract, if Rex and Tanny have any future (big, huge if) GMC could be the perfect solution, especially in 2014 when the Jets get out of cap hell.I think the fact he is NOT Sanchez or Tebow is pretty strong attribute.
Ready to compete
Posted 02 December 2012 - 09:15 PM
Absolutely. Addition by subtraction and that's not even up for debate. You saw it immediately as soon as he walked on the field. Sanchez was just sucking the collective life out of the team and had been doing so since last year.
Ready to compete
Posted 02 December 2012 - 09:17 PM
And he's dirt cheap and might just be the actual game managing, leader-type the Jets need. He actually fits the blabber mouth, coach's philosophy. God forbid if he's worth his salt as a steady, consistent, middle of the pack, game manager, a la Alex Smith, given his contract, if Rex and Tanny have any future (big, huge if) GMC could be the perfect solution, especially in 2014 when the Jets get out of cap hell.
Franchise Player
Posted 02 December 2012 - 09:17 PM
From Cold Hard Football facts..
The Jets held on to win the dreadful contest, 7-6.
In other words, in one drive, McElroy, a guy who had never taken an NFL snap, produced more points than Sanchez did in nearly three full quarters against a bad team.
LOL
Transition Player
Posted 02 December 2012 - 09:18 PM
From Cold Hard Football facts..
The Jets held on to win the dreadful contest, 7-6.
In other words, in one drive, McElroy, a guy who had never taken an NFL snap, produced more points than Sanchez did in nearly three full quarters against a bad team.
LOL
Ready to compete
Posted 02 December 2012 - 09:19 PM
I agree with almost everything you said, don't get me wrong. However, the Cardinals have a good defense. They are kind of like us. Their offense is just so brutally bad that it occasionally makes their defense look pitiful, because they're going 3 and out on every possession or turning the ball over in their own territory, etc.
Transition Player
Posted 02 December 2012 - 09:20 PM
Master Banned
Posted 02 December 2012 - 09:21 PM
Not saying anything that most of you don't know already, but GMC has a pitiful arm. Pitiful.
He's quick, can scramble with some of the best of 'em, he has a high football IQ and of course: teh intangiblez.But his arm is bloody awful.
Cazzone
Posted 02 December 2012 - 09:24 PM
Not saying anything that most of you don't know already, but GMC has a pitiful arm. Pitiful.
He's quick, can scramble with some of the best of 'em, he has a high football IQ and of course: teh intangiblez. But his arm is bloody awful.
Franchise Player
Posted 02 December 2012 - 09:25 PM
Not saying anything that most of you don't know already, but GMC has a pitiful arm. Pitiful.
He's quick, can scramble with some of the best of 'em, he has a high football IQ and of course: teh intangiblez. But his arm is bloody awful.
Leisureforce
Posted 02 December 2012 - 09:26 PM
A lot of the draft measurables used do not translate to success at the quarterback position in the NFL. It's possible McElroy was downgraded because his numbers didn't pop off the charts and he played on a very talented offense in college. That does not mean he will not be a good NFL quarterback. Quarterbacking in the NFL is hard to measure with a 40 time and a long jump. Its about just as many things that can not be measured. Like timing, anticipation, toughness, leadership, and intelligence (which can be measured to a point). Again I'm not saying he will be good or not.
(Chandler)'s a nice piece as long as he's the 7th most important player on your roster....I think they're going to be disappointed when they see he's just a pumped-up Drew Gooden.
Leisureforce
Posted 02 December 2012 - 09:30 PM
He's quick, can scramble with some of the best of 'em...
(Chandler)'s a nice piece as long as he's the 7th most important player on your roster....I think they're going to be disappointed when they see he's just a pumped-up Drew Gooden.
Franchise Player
Posted 02 December 2012 - 09:31 PM
Oh stop it. Of course they do.
http://www.footballo...rs.com/stats/qb
6th, 1st, 2nd, 1st, 1st, UDFA, 1st, 3rd, 1st, 1st, 1st, 3rd, 2nd, 1st, 1st...etc. Of course they translate over. If you're landing a starting QB you're generally landing one in the first 3 rounds and even more so in the first. Of course it's possible to find one elsewhere, it's just not probable. The odds are against him, that's really the only point I was making.
Statistics generally don't get figured into scouting reports to the degree at which you're arguing here. The Colt Brennans and Kliff Kingsburys of the college world never get taken that seriously because their physical deficiencies are blatantly obvious. That's where scouting pretty much starts and then they take it from there. McElroy was drafted in the 6th because nothing physically popped out on tape in the sense of him turning in to a starter anywhere near the immediate future, notably his arm strength which is incredibly weak, particularly with driving the deep ball. The consensus on him was that you could groom him to be a decent backup and he could possibly even turn in to a decent starter somewhere along the line because of his experience and intelligence. Today's performance doesn't really offer up any real basis to shift the argument away from that or even further towards it simply because it's one game where he threw 7 passes. By most reports he hasn't been given a ton of opportunity in practices either. So at this point you're really just dealing with what we were dealing with before, the fact that we have no idea what we're dealing with and that the only information we have is what we had before.
Mr. Jet Nation
Posted 02 December 2012 - 09:38 PM
On the real, we know he's not the long-term answer, but he has to start the rest of the season, then be the #2 next year and moving forward.
Can the Jets resist the temptation of making the same mistake the Bills did with Fitzpatrick? Remains to be seen.
But, the bottom line is that Mark Sanchez can never see the field again as a New York Jet. They need to bury that bone in the yard immediately.
Sanchez starts. No question.
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