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#26 JFtoLong

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 08:31 AM

or Tanny told him to play Mark.


If so, what does that say about Rex?
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Posted 05 December 2012 - 08:31 AM

I bet you'll see a better Sanchez against Jacksonville, with something to prove. Thinking they smoke the Jags like they did the Bills/Colts.

Not saying we've seen the last of McElroy, but until they lose or completely eliminated from the playoffs, Sanchez is the guy.
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Posted 05 December 2012 - 08:32 AM

My thoughts on the decision, and I'm probably going to get killed for this, but, I think Rex is thinking playoffs still, and he knows if they run the ball every single down the next 2 weeks they are pretty much guaranteed 2 wins, and at 7-7, and 2 more winnable games, one being another where they could win if they didn't pass the ball once against Buffalo.

If I'm right, and that's what Rex is really looking towards, the playoffs, he thinks Sanchez gives the team the best chance in the playoffs, Mark had gone head to head against Manning, and Brady in the playoffs, and beat them both, and outplayed them both in those 2 wins, and TBH if by some miracle the Jets do make the playoffs Sanchez is the only QB on the roster who could win a game, or two in the playoffs, he has proven that, and done after playing horrible going into the playoffs, the sad part is I think Rex is wrong in the thinking that Sanchez is the best option to get the team to 9-7 to have that slim shot at getting in, he needs a game manager who WON'T turn the ball over, and WON'T need to make many plays to win these 4 games, but again Sanchez is best QB if the Jets get gift wrapped a playoff spot these last 4 weeks. Mac's the man to get us the 4 wins the next 4 weeks, but Sanchez is the guy who can win the type of football you need to play in the playoffs, I don't see it happening either way thou, even if they got in Mark could get hot as balls, but he still wouldn't have the horses to make plays for him. And I see no chance in hell of him playing good football anyway in the playoffs if they got there, this is just my opinion on why Rex is going with Mark still, he is delusional, and still thinks this team is good enough to A get in the playoffs, and B actually win games if they got there.




No defense-first coach wants a QB that turns the ball over. They'd rather play the less dynamic guy that protects field position than play the guy who might be more talented but puts his defense on a short field twice a game. Rex intimated as much when he referenced Billick making the switch from Tony Banks to Trent Dilfer in Baltimore.
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Posted 05 December 2012 - 08:32 AM

Its the right decision for a couple reasons:
1) If you bench him for good, he will shrivel up and we will be eating his salary next year as a clipboard toter.
2) see how well he reacts to his benching, maybe it will open his eyes (but probably not) He

Guarantee the rope will be shorter this week, if he sucks Rex won't wait till the 3rd quarter to yank him.

In 2013 Sanchez will be holding a clipboard and eating salary no matter what.
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Posted 05 December 2012 - 08:33 AM

I think you need to bench him for at least a few games, if not the rest of the season, and see how he comes back next year.


Absolutely correct.

This year is shot. He needs to take a step back and do some soul searching. Nothing good can come from having a couple more bad performances. Mark is going to be the starter next year and this is another in the long line of missteps the Jets have taken with his growth.

Tanny needs to go bye bye.
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Posted 05 December 2012 - 08:33 AM

If so, what does that say about Rex?


That he listens to his boss like you and me?
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Posted 05 December 2012 - 08:34 AM

Btw, Rec should call Eric Mangini to get his perspective on how wise it is to stay loyal to Tannenbaum
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Posted 05 December 2012 - 08:34 AM

Accountability you and me have it in our jobs- The Jets organization do not seem to want to
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Posted 05 December 2012 - 08:36 AM

Peter Schwartzof FAN reporting that "some Jets players" are not going to be happy about this decision.

Gmac ?
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Posted 05 December 2012 - 08:37 AM

Absolutely correct.

This year is shot. He needs to take a step back and do some soul searching. Nothing good can come from having a couple more bad performances. Mark is going to be the starter next year and this is another in the long line of missteps the Jets have taken with his growth.

Tanny needs to go bye bye.


I agree, but so does Rex. If Rex is not smart enough to know how to develop a QB, which he has shown over and over again, or if he is not powerful enough to overrule our accountant GM, he needs to go just as fast.

This move makes zero sense to me.

Sit him the rest of the year, let him decide if he wants to be a QB or a celebrity, and compete next year, hopefully with some gained perspective, even though it probably won't matter.

This is so typical clueless Jets.
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Posted 05 December 2012 - 08:37 AM

When do the firings start?

WHEN?
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Posted 05 December 2012 - 08:38 AM

That he listens to his boss like you and me?


I think Woody is more Rex's boss than Tanny, I could be wrong of course.

In the NFL usually the coach is the much more valuable commodity than the GM.

Ecspecially when your GM is not a traiditonal NFL GM, but more of a cap/contract guy.
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Posted 05 December 2012 - 08:38 AM

Rex just has no idea what he's doing.
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Posted 05 December 2012 - 08:39 AM

Btw, Rec should call Eric Mangini to get his perspective on how wise it is to stay loyal to Tannenbaum


Mangini was fired by Woody, not Tanny.

Mangini was way too boring for Woody, Tanny and Mangini are still good friends to this day.
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Posted 05 December 2012 - 08:40 AM

Now the real question - GMAC or TEBOW - which one is inactive and which one is the #2??

This is a soap opera!
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Posted 05 December 2012 - 08:41 AM

or Tanny told him to play Mark.


Yup.

If so, what does that say about Rex?


That he listens to his boss?

Earlier, we get the scoop that Rex and Woody want to go with McElroy while Tannenbaum and Sparano want Sanchez. Today we find out they're going with Sanchez. Think that earlier leak was an accident? No way. Rex knew which way his boss would want to go, and he wants it to be clear that he doesn't agree. The Woody association is interesting, too. Maybe he's looking to dispel the idea that he meddles too much in the football side of things by taking the "losing side" of this debate.

I still think he went against orders when he pulled Sanchez in the first place. It'll be interesting to see how short a leash Mark has this Sunday.
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#42 JFtoLong

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 08:41 AM

Rex just has no idea what he's doing.


Zero clue, neither does anyone else in this disaster of a franchise.
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Posted 05 December 2012 - 08:42 AM

Just pour more gas on it.
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Posted 05 December 2012 - 08:43 AM

Yup.



That he listens to his boss?

Earlier, we get the scoop that Rex and Woody want to go with McElroy while Tannenbaum and Sparano want Sanchez. Today we find out they're going with Sanchez. Think that earlier leak was an accident? No way. Rex knew which way his boss would want to go, and he wants it to be clear that he doesn't agree. The Woody association is interesting, too. Maybe he's looking to dispel the idea that he meddles too much in the football side of things by taking the "losing side" of this debate.

I still think he went against orders when he pulled Sanchez in the first place. It'll be interesting to see how short a leash Mark has this Sunday.


So let me get this straight, Tanny is Rex's boss, and Woody is Tanny's boss.

So Rex has to listen to his boss, but Tanny does not?

And, Rex does not have to listen to his boss's boss?

Holy F'd up?

You are deducing a lot from made up sources.
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Posted 05 December 2012 - 08:44 AM

The Jets are just lucky this isn't a home game or they'd get booed out of the stadium.
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Posted 05 December 2012 - 08:45 AM

So the reports that are true depends on which side you are on.

Kind of like a Revis holdout, got it.
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Posted 05 December 2012 - 08:50 AM

So let me get this straight, Tanny is Rex's boss, and Woody is Tanny's boss.

So Rex has to listen to his boss, but Tanny does not?

And, Rex does not have to listen to his boss's boss?

Holy F'd up?

You are deducing a lot from made up sources.


I really don't know who Woody really wants out there. If he and the head coach really want McElroy, that's clearly who should be playing. Yet that's not what's happening. So what is?

My feeling is that Woody took the fan friendly side in the press, looking to clean up his meddling image, and threw Tannenbaum under the bus.
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Posted 05 December 2012 - 08:51 AM

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 08:52 AM

Cimini reporting it as well:

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FLORHAM PARK, N.J.  The New York Jets aren't ready to try a "Hail McElroy" just yet.




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Posted Image This was the safest move for Rex Ryan. It demonstrates the organization's commitment to Sanchez, its willingness to make it work, writes Rich Cimini. Blog
After mulling the most important decision of his head-coaching career, Rex Ryan decided to stick with embattled starting quarterback Mark Sanchez, the team announced Wednesday morning.
Backup Greg McElroy, the new fan favorite after rallying the Jets to a 7-6 win over the Arizona Cardinals, will remain on the bench with Tim Tebow -- for now.
Ryan, who informed the entire team of his decision to start Sanchez at its 8 a.m. meeting, will address the media at 11: 45 a.m. Wednesday.
The next question becomes the No. 2 job. Ryan apparently isn't ready to make that announcement. That will depend largely on Tebow's health, according to a source.


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Ryan benched Sanchez for the first time in his career, fueling a quarterback controversy. It intensified when McElroy, in his NFL debut, led the struggling offense to its only score.
Sanchez, coming off a three-interception nightmare, will return to his familiar role Sunday against the Jacksonville Jaguars. That the game is on the road should help him; he won't have to deal with the venom of the New York fans, many of whom have turned on him in recent weeks.
Ryan was noncommittal Sunday and Monday, claiming he needed time to make the decision. It was the first time in three-plus season he didn't publicly back Sanchez as his starter. Ryan said he wanted to have an "open discussion" with his staff.
That occurred Tuesday, sources said, as he huddled with owner Woody Johnson, general manager Mike Tannenbaum and offensive coordinator Tony Sparano.
Despite his struggles, Sanchez still has support within the organization, including the offensive coaching staff.
Financially, they have a lot invested in him, including $8.25 million in guaranteed money for 2013.
Sanchez, drafted fifth overall in 2009, helped the Jets to back-to-back AFC Championship Games in his first two seasons. Since then, his record is 13-15, with 44 turnovers. How Tebow fits into the equation remains to be seen. He's recovering from fractured ribs, which kept him out last week. He was the No. 2 quarterback for the first 11 games, but it's possible he could be deactivated for the second straight week.
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Posted 05 December 2012 - 08:56 AM

What a joke
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