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#21 #27TheDominator

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 04:13 PM

Dear God. This is moronic. All I hear is "Our coach is a clown!" "Why does he talk so much to the media?" "Why can't he be like Belichick?" "Blah, blah, blah, bulletin board". Then he spits out the oldest cliche in the book. The one every coach gets handed when they sign their contract and we have a full article and a thread devoted to dissecting it? ****ing A.
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Posted 05 December 2012 - 04:38 PM

Dear God. This is moronic. All I hear is "Our coach is a clown!" "Why does he talk so much to the media?" "Why can't he be like Belichick?" "Blah, blah, blah, bulletin board". Then he spits out the oldest cliche in the book. The one every coach gets handed when they sign their contract and we have a full article and a thread devoted to dissecting it? ****ing A.


Rex is a clown.

He loves the all attention from the media while other HCs see dealing with the press as a pain in the azz. Theres no telling what "Rex the Clown" will say next.

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 04:39 PM

Rex is a clown.

He loves the all attention from the media while other HCs see dealing with the press as a pain in the azz. Theres no telling what "Rex the Clown" will say next.


Yeah. He might say "gives us the best chance to win." Can you imagine?
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Posted 05 December 2012 - 04:43 PM

My reason for using the word "only" wasn't to minimize, it was used for comparison..it isn't often any QB has six or seven games in a row..and Tebow managed it in his first time as starter..after a loss as you mentioned.

I am merely making a case that the continuance of "Tebow isn't an NFL QB" is erroneous, and likewise, so is "Tebow isn't a winner" themes.. it just isn't. He may be a dork, he may be weird, he may be a rapture bunny, he may be whatever..but he damn sure is a winning QB when he gets to play long enough.
If he sucks balls so bad, I am wondering why the insistence he never show it.. I continually get the impression that people want to cover their own asses when it comes to evaluation, they pegged him as a loser..and don't want to see anything different.
Since we are mincing words like "only" He wasn't on the team for two years, last year was his second year...and he had NO reps with the first team until after game five. There is a huge difference between practicing with the seconds and firsts.

As for him sucking 3 3/4s of the game, that wasn't always the case, I know he has issues, it is obvious that his delivery *has been* an issue..don't know how bad that still is.. and he had a tendency to tuck the ball and use his feet..

I personally don't care what the delivery looks like if it gets the job done, and I would much rather a QB take off and try to get the play than just fold every time the back field gets crowded like Mark does.


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you make no sense. You talk about sample size that you cant classify tebow as a winner then you turn right around and say hes a loser.....

sample size!


Show me where I said he was a loser? I said he sucks. I didn't say he was a loser.

How do you characterize a QB who is 9-7 as an NFL starter as this big "winner?"
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Posted 05 December 2012 - 04:47 PM

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Show me where I said he was a loser? I said he sucks. I didn't say he was a loser.

How do you characterize a QB who is 9-7 as an NFL starter as this big "winner?"


oh i took sucking as looser. Im not saying you can classify him a winner but i still dont know if he sucks either. Hes never had an offseason or a full starting year for that matter. Sample size way small lol.

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 04:49 PM

Sanchez is more clueless than Rex, if that is even possible.
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Posted 05 December 2012 - 05:05 PM

Yeah. He might say "gives us the best chance to win." Can you imagine?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the article about the actions and not words of this regime? Does Sanchez give us the best chance to win? Did he against Arizona? Are we a ground and pound offense? If so, doesn't accuracy and minimizing turnovers play a bigger role in that sort of offense?

Either I'm missing the point that you're trying to make, or you're missing the point of the article, IMO...
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Posted 05 December 2012 - 05:18 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the article about the actions and not words of this regime? Does Sanchez give us the best chance to win? Did he against Arizona? Are we a ground and pound offense? If so, doesn't accuracy and minimizing turnovers play a bigger role in that sort of offense?

Either I'm missing the point that you're trying to make, or you're missing the point of the article, IMO...


Eh you're right. The article goes on about plenty of actions, but it acts as if this decision and trite quote necessarily mean something. It is certainly possible that Sanchez actually gives us the best chance to win. In fact, it's pretty likely. It's also pretty likely that McElroy isn't the future and that everybody involved knows that already too. What are we losing? A valuable opportunity to evaluate McElroy? To that I say Whoopty Damn Doo.
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Posted 05 December 2012 - 05:23 PM

Eh you're right. The article goes on about plenty of actions, but it acts as if this decision and trite quote necessarily mean something. It is certainly possible that Sanchez actually gives us the best chance to win. In fact, it's pretty likely. It's also pretty likely that McElroy isn't the future and that everybody involved knows that already too. What are we losing? A valuable opportunity to evaluate McElroy? To that I say Whoopty Damn Doo.

We're losing a chance for the regime to show us that they are competent and have a clue what they are doing.
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Posted 05 December 2012 - 05:27 PM

I don't necessarily agree with this decision but I still support the Jets and will root for them through the rest of the season. I want them to win games, not lose them. This article, about how Tebow can secretly save the team, is bullcrap. Mark is terrible but it makes sense that Rex and co believe he's still the best Qb on the team. I know how bad that sounds. But it is what it is. Greg McElroy is different but not necessarily better.



Especially considering this is Rex and Co. full time jobs.
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Posted 05 December 2012 - 05:31 PM

Eh you're right. The article goes on about plenty of actions, but it acts as if this decision and trite quote necessarily mean something. It is certainly possible that Sanchez actually gives us the best chance to win. In fact, it's pretty likely. It's also pretty likely that McElroy isn't the future and that everybody involved knows that already too. What are we losing? A valuable opportunity to evaluate McElroy? To that I say Whoopty Damn Doo.

Good points. I'm not so sure that the people involved know much about anything at this point, but then again they get paid to work in the NFL and I don't.

Something needs to change. This much, we all know. I think it wouldn't be a bad idea to see what we have with McElroy. We tried it the other way. Those results aren't too impressive. And those results were in direct relation to the decisions of "everyone involved"...
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Posted 05 December 2012 - 06:11 PM

The entire development plan of Rex Ryan's Jets was to acquire more swagger. That's not even a joke.
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Posted 05 December 2012 - 06:17 PM

The entire development plan of Rex Ryan's Jets was to acquire more swagger. That's not even a joke.

Cool! We're the Ron Jeremy's of the NFL. Lots of swagger, and still no accomplishments that the mainstream can appreciate...
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Posted 05 December 2012 - 06:22 PM

The entire development plan of Rex Ryan's Jets was to acquire more swagger. That's not even a joke.


Do you see any swagger? That's the problem. Failure to acquire swagger. Blame Tannenbaum.
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Posted 05 December 2012 - 06:25 PM

We're losing a chance for the regime to show us that they are competent and have a clue what they are doing.


Dude they could win out and win the super bowl and you wouldn't admit competence. In fact the majority of this board has complained that they make moves "for the money" or "for the media" or "for the fans." They know this isn't going to be popular n with the fans. If they give up on Sanchez and go with McElroy they get the opportunity to try blame it all on Mark and get off the way people were blaming Schottenhiemer. Maybe they just think this is the right move. There is a pretty good chance that it is. Sort of like a blow to the head is better than a knife to the chest, but better none the less.
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Posted 05 December 2012 - 06:39 PM

no, hey had a plan

step 1: sanchez will blossom in his 4th year

step 2 ?

step 3 : SB
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Posted 05 December 2012 - 07:33 PM

Dude they could win out and win the super bowl and you wouldn't admit competence. In fact the majority of this board has complained that they make moves "for the money" or "for the media" or "for the fans." They know this isn't going to be popular n with the fans. If they give up on Sanchez and go with McElroy they get the opportunity to try blame it all on Mark and get off the way people were blaming Schottenhiemer. Maybe they just think this is the right move. There is a pretty good chance that it is. Sort of like a blow to the head is better than a knife to the chest, but better none the less.

This post is pure silliness. They aren't winning out. They aren't winning the Super Bowl. You know why? Because this front office filled the roster with sh*te and drafted a QB no 5 overall who's playing like the worst QB in the NFL. Thats what gets you fired.

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 09:20 AM

This post is pure silliness. They aren't winning out. They aren't winning the Super Bowl. You know why? Because this front office filled the roster with sh*te and drafted a QB no 5 overall who's playing like the worst QB in the NFL. Thats what gets you fired.


It's not silliness. It doesn't matter that they're not winning out. They have to try to win out or they are a bigger bunch of pussies than you think. You want to roll up in a ball because they aren't the best team. That's not the way it works. You fight through it and try. You don't start auditioning players for the next regime while you are still in the playoff hunt. Bad as they are, they are 8th and 6 teams make it.
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Posted 06 December 2012 - 09:31 AM

Its amazing over the past 4 years what the Ravens have been able to continue to do while the Jets have gotten dramatically worse. They lost two of their best players this year as did we. One team has direction, one does not.

There's no excuse for how poor of a job Woody, Tanny and Rex have done.

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 10:42 AM

Its amazing over the past 4 years what the Ravens have been able to continue to do while the Jets have gotten dramatically worse. They lost two of their best players this year as did we. One team has direction, one does not.

There's no excuse for how poor of a job Woody, Tanny and Rex have done.

The Ravens haven't gone much further than the Jets have because their QB is just average.
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