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[Thor99]

The case against Tim Tebow: He sucks.

[Jetsouth]

Tebow can run the ball, simple as that.

Tebow stole several tds in college by running the spread option and keeping the ball..

Last year in Denver, Tebow was forced to run for his life because of his problems adjusting to the NFL, but mostly because he had Decker and Thomas..
Decker was the return man prior to the Elways trading off their best receiver to the pats, and Thomas was like Stephen Hill, almost a duplicate.. Since The Denver Elways got Manning, they quickly signed Tamme, Stokely and Dreesen.. Peyton being a pocket passer unlike RG3 and Cam and Wilson has to rely only on his arm.

Tim was never considered a "running QB " per say, but it fits depending on the situation.. He sure didn't win in Florida or against the Steelers last year with his running ability.. What Tim has that Mark and Greg don't have is no fear of being hit, and no fear of running the ball..

Tim is a real football player unlike Sanchez who has absolutely no fight whatsoever at this point, I doubt if he ever did.
Greg can't begin to match Tim's fight.. and that is what counts.. fight.

Just because a bunch of people who have been slurping down Marks loads and softly massaging his nutsack for the past four years don't want the jesus boy to replace him and make them look like the idiots they are, doesn't mean Tebow sucks.. You can say it fifty thousand times in the shower while fantasizing about Mark, it still doesn't mean its true...LOL.

This guy nailed it pretty good...you can tell when the same ol people follow it with "Tebow sux" and that is their assessment..

[slats]

Tebow stole several tds in college by running the spread option and keeping the ball..

Last year in Denver, Tebow was forced to run for his life because of his problems adjusting to the NFL, but mostly because he had Decker and Thomas..
Decker was the return man prior to the Elways trading off their best receiver to the pats, and Thomas was like Stephen Hill, almost a duplicate.. Since The Denver Elways got Manning, they quickly signed Tamme, Stokely and Dreesen.. Peyton being a pocket passer unlike RG3 and Cam and Wilson has to rely only on his arm.

Tim was never considered a "running QB " per say, but it fits depending on the situation.. He sure didn't win in Florida or against the Steelers last year with his running ability.. What Tim has that Mark and Greg don't have is no fear of being hit, and no fear of running the ball..

Tim is a real football player unlike Sanchez who has absolutely no fight whatsoever at this point, I doubt if he ever did.
Greg can't begin to match Tim's fight.. and that is what counts.. fight.

Just because a bunch of people who have been slurping down Marks loads and softly massaging his nutsack for the past four years don't want the jesus boy to replace him and make them look like the idiots they are, doesn't mean Tebow sucks.. You can say it fifty thousand times in the shower while fantasizing about Mark, it still doesn't mean its true...LOL.

This guy nailed it pretty good...you can tell when the same ol people follow it with "Tebow sux" and that is their assessment..

Who are these mythical creatures? The vast majority of people that you would consider to be Sanchez supporters generally acknowlege that he hasn't been good, and appears to be getting worse.

Tebow had a good run (despite generally poor play) followed by a bad run. If not for the unlikely win against the Steelers, the discussion of him as an NFL QB would barely exist. As bad as Mark has been, it's difficult to look at Tebow and see improvement. Even his supporters generally admit that a team needs to tailor their offense to his (limited) talents in order for him to be successful. What kind of case is that?

The fact is that the world is littered with outstanding college QBs that just aren't NFL QB material. IMHO, Tebow would be better served playing in the CFL, with it's wide open field, and run and shoot mentality. He's shown some promise with his deep ball, and he's much more of a threat to run when the field is spread with receivers. The lesser competition wouldn't hurt him, either.

[Lil Bit Special]

Just because a bunch of people who have been slurping down Marks loads and softly massaging his nutsack for the past four years don't want the jesus boy to replace him and make them look like the idiots they are, doesn't mean Tebow sucks.. You can say it fifty thousand times in the shower while fantasizing about Mark, it still doesn't mean its true...LOL.

This guy nailed it pretty good...you can tell when the same ol people follow it with "Tebow sux" and that is their assessment..

So in your warped little world, if people dislike Tebow and dont want him playing its because they are massaging Sanchez's nuts?

You are so far off and so f#cking clueless that its a waste of my time even responding to your ridiculous posts.

Maybe, just maybe, People here have seen enough out of Tim Tebow in his time in the pros and college to know what kind of football player he is and make a decision based on that. Maybe? Naw... its all because we love the Sanchize!!!

[Joe Jets fan]

The nut bags, will be nut bags.

No matter the argument they come up with, the counter is so easy. HE CAN'T THROW A FOOTBALL!!!!!

[Klecko73isGod]

The case against Tim Tebow: He sucks.

Doood!!! He's 9-7 as an NFL starter. That means he's a winner!!!!

[nj meadowlands]

Go away, moron.

[Jetsouth]

So, the general argument is Rex is soooo smart he can eval talent enough he knows Mark gives the JETS the best chance to win.. but he watched Tebow (in college perhaps) and then all last year, even when Tebow spanked teh Jets, and he is the braintrust of the NFL for NOT starting Tebow.. ok.

Four years of Sanchez, and you still think Rex knows talent ? Look at Sparano.. he lost his last job, and he has a job waiting ?
It's obvious why Rex doesn't want to start Tebow ...yet, when he does, there won't be any going back to Sanchez..

Slats, we haven't seen Tebow play... and all this discussion about his limited skill set or he can't throw is nonsense..in spite of what he had to throw to last year.. Manning in fact proves my point... Yes he is better than Tebow by far, he better be..he has much more time and support than Tebow has had, but Denver is actually a team with a QB, and Tim showed that last year turning that team around after Orton failed to deliver a winning season with all kinds of support.

I get it ... There are just people , most of whom have been die hard Sanchez supporters up until now, who absolutely hate Tebow, it doesn't matter what he did, or will do.. every bit of it was a fluke.

It doens't matter if he threw for over 300 yds against the number one d last year.. that was a fluke.
It doesn't matter if he took over a team after the FO had no choice because their chosen best chance to win failed, into the playoffs with a 1.8% chance of making it.
It doesn't matter that he is regarded by many as the best college football player ever.. (4ncaa DIV 1 records, 14 SEC records, and 28 school records for PASSING and running)

What matters is that these same *JETS fans* would rather have the third string QB with one NFL start and NO visible history in this league start instead of the nice kid that beat them last year...

It's not even funny..its pathetic.

yes, I know college doesn't count.. that is why people are citing Gmacs college accomplishments as reason to start him, and why the NFL uses college to evaluate players before the draft.


btw, in case you haven't noticed there are several teams in the NFL who are running the spread option at present, because their current QBs ran the SO in college. RG3 is running the exact same offense as Tebow in college.

Edited by Jetsouth, 07 December 2012 - 09:41 AM.

[Jetsouth]

So in your warped little world, if people dislike Tebow and dont want him playing its because they are massaging Sanchez's nuts?

You are so far off and so f#cking clueless that its a waste of my time even responding to your ridiculous posts.

Maybe, just maybe, People here have seen enough out of Tim Tebow in his time in the pros and college to know what kind of football player he is and make a decision based on that. Maybe? Naw... its all because we love the Sanchize!!!

No...in my warped *little* world I knew Mark Sanchez was a loser when he opted to gtf out of dodge and take the
NFL starting spot in JETS land, and Tebow was beating the Sooners for the Nat'l title...while your clueless ass was dreaming up some ridiculous bs to tell yourself about Marky mark..

y'all been runnin around fighting over the chance to wipe marks mess up after he spooges all over the place, the rest of the league has been laughin their ass off... (token laughing smiley face excluded)

[slats]

So, the general argument is Rex is soooo smart he can eval talent enough he knows Mark gives the JETS the best chance to win.. but he watched Tebow (in college perhaps) and then all last year, even when Tebow spanked teh Jets, and he is the braintrust of the NFL for NOT starting Tebow.. ok.

Four years of Sanchez, and you still think Rex knows talent ? Look at Sparano.. he lost his last job, and he has a job waiting ?
It's obvious why Rex doesn't want to start Tebow ...yet, when he does, there won't be any going back to Sanchez..

Slats, we haven't seen Tebow play... and all this discussion about his limited skill set or he can't throw is nonsense..in spite of what he had to throw to last year.. Manning in fact proves my point... Yes he is better than Tebow by far, he better be..he has much more time and support than Tebow has had, but Denver is actually a team with a QB, and Tim showed that last year turning that team around after Orton failed to deliver a winning season with all kinds of support.

I get it ... There are just people , most of whom have been die hard Sanchez supporters up until now, who absolutely hate Tebow, it doesn't matter what he did, or will do.. every bit of it was a fluke.

It doens't matter if he threw for over 300 yds against the number one d last year.. that was a fluke.
It doesn't matter if he took over a team after the FO had no choice because their chosen best chance to win failed, into the playoffs with a 1.8% chance of making it.
It doesn't matter that he is regarded by many as the best college football player ever.. (4ncaa DIV 1 records, 14 SEC records, and 28 school records for PASSING and running)

What matters is that these same *JETS fans* would rather have the third string QB with one NFL start and NO visible history in this league start instead of the nice kid that beat them last year...

It's not even funny..its pathetic.

yes, I know college doesn't count.. that is why people are citing Gmacs college accomplishments as reason to start him, and why the NFL uses college to evaluate players before the draft.


btw, in case you haven't noticed there are several teams in the NFL who are running the spread option at present, because their current QBs ran the SO in college. RG3 is running the exact same offense as Tebow in college.

You're rallying against generalities that simply don't exist.

No one thinks Rex is a great talent evaluator. Even his supporters acknowlege he has no business in the talent side of the business.

Sanchez has very few supporters, and the majority of them supported him simply because they had no other choice. The guy was a #5 pick and gets paid a lot of money. He wasn't going anywhere. It's essentially a case of if you can't beat him, join him.

At this point, I think you could classify the majority of Jet fans as wanting Rex, Sanchez, and Tebow ALL GONE.

Rex and Mark sucking don't make Tebow any better, and Tebow sucking doesn't make Rex or Sanchez any better.

I think most people are interested in McElroy starting because he's the guy we know the least about. The QBs we do know about suck.

[Jetsouth]

The case against Tim Tebow: He sucks.

Compare this to Mark or Greg dude..

INcludes many of his interceptions and bad plays..too.

[Jetsouth]

You're rallying against generalities that simply don't exist.

No one thinks Rex is a great talent evaluator. Even his supporters acknowlege he has no business in the talent side of the business.

Sanchez has very few supporters, and the majority of them supported him simply because they had no other choice. The guy was a #5 pick and gets paid a lot of money. He wasn't going anywhere. It's essentially a case of if you can't beat him, join him.

At this point, I think you could classify the majority of Jet fans as wanting Rex, Sanchez, and Tebow ALL GONE.

Rex and Mark sucking don't make Tebow any better, and Tebow sucking doesn't make Rex or Sanchez any better.

I think most people are interested in McElroy starting because he's the guy we know the least about. The QBs we do know about suck.

Read your reply, noted.

Such a rapid change I think from the Mark Forever crowd that was here three months ago.


BTW, WE know plenty about Gmac...plenty. He ran a defensive team , running offense in college..ala Saban/Bama. He handed the ball off very well, good on the fake, and he has two or three pass plays, cannot run. He was as accurate in college almost as Tebow.

Edited by Jetsouth, 07 December 2012 - 10:25 AM.

[slats]

Read your reply, noted.

Such a rapid change I think from the Mark Forever crowd that was here three months ago.

Mark had a lot of support two years ago coming off his second straight solid-to-very-good performance in the playoffs. But by a few months ago, that had eroded into the level of support I described above. The Mark Forever crowd of 2012 probably consisted of less than five people on this board.

[Lil Bit Special]

No...in my warped *little* world I knew Mark Sanchez was a loser when he opted to gtf out of dodge and take the
NFL starting spot in JETS land, and Tebow was beating the Sooners for the Nat'l title...while your clueless ass was dreaming up some ridiculous bs to tell yourself about Marky mark..

y'all been runnin around fighting over the chance to wipe marks mess up after he spooges all over the place, the rest of the league has been laughin their ass off... (token laughing smiley face excluded)

Funny. Ive never been a sanchez supporter, even when he was The Sanchize.

But keeping dreaming sweet thoughts about Tebow and how he's supposedly a good QB.

[Lil Bit Special]

It doens't matter if he threw for over 300 yds against the number one d last year.. that was a fluke.

Wow. I guess Pittsburgh being without one of their top defenders had nothing to do with this? Its all because Tebow is the sh!t!

And take out the 1 pas for 80 yards and its a sh!tty game.

But go ahead,.... 300yd GAME!! TEBOW IS THE AWESOME!!


Keep cherry picking numbers and stats and ignore the evidence right in front of your eyes. There is no way in hell Tebow could EVER perform like that with the Jets offense in front of him. Its a team game, and our team stinks. Tebow will be killled behind center with this team.

[Bleedin Green]

There are people in this world still clueless enough to try to blame even a portion of Tebow's sucktitude on the Bronco's supporting cast last year? Funny how they are now sporting one of the league's top offenses with nearly the identical offensive roster other than one very important exception... the QB. Now granted, their QB is now Peyton f'n Manning, but considering that he's coming off of 4 major neck surgeries and a year out of the league, you'd think there would at least be the slightest bit of evidence that the supporting cast was negatively impacting his play, yet no such thing exists. These folks make the Sanchez apologists look reasonable and level-headed by comparison, and that's really saying something.

[CrazyCarl40]

The only case for Tim Tebow is that he isn't Mark Sanchez. That said, he's still worse than Sanchez and that is saying something.

[Lil Bit Special]

Compare this to Mark or Greg dude..

INcludes many of his interceptions and bad plays..too.

And??? Should I pull up Sanchez highlights when he won playoff games for us to cherry pick a point?

Doesnt change my view of Tebow at all. Terrible throwing motion. Needs a great line to save his ass. Gets lucky when defenses collapse around him.

[Lil Bit Special]

And why the hell are we sitting here debating tebow when TD Jesus has broken ribs and wont play??

[Bugg]

The problem isn't what quarter it is. Look at the film ; Tebow succeeded when the Broncos ran rollouts and options that scrambled the defense and had LBs and safeties moving left and right. He either tossed it to a trailing back, threw a dumpoff in the flats or ran over said unsteady defenders for decent gains. He is never going to be a dropback passer. Sparano, being a frigging moron, instead calls plays that have Tebow either drop back or run right up the middle at straight up DL guys.Tebow i probably bigger than most LBs and safeties; he's puny compared to the Wilforks of the NFL. Either of Sparano's choices is pointless. I don't know if Tebow could've made a difference but I know Sparano calls plays for him as if he never watched tape of what Tebow did well last year.

Edited by Bugg, 07 December 2012 - 10:52 AM.