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[faba]

We beat Arizona 7 to 6 just barely
Seattle beat them 54 to 0.
It is called winning ugly

[JiF]

Please. Even you don't believe that nonsense. If we had beat a few good teams maybe.

Coach of the year was extreme. Maybe to not that degree but Rex is doing a hell of job. Its amazing this team can win a single ball game with Mark Sanchez as their QB. Throw in the loss of the best defender in the land and your 2 best skillz players for the year and the circus created by the GM/Owner ...I'm dead serious when I say this has been a hell of a coaching job.

[bitonti]

We beat Arizona 7 to 6 just barely
Seattle beat them 54 to 0.
It is called winning ugly

i've seen variations of this point made in several threads. if anyone watched any part of that game, youll know why they stuck with Lindley last week. Skelton was even worse.

[Lupz27]

Pretty sure Pitt needs to lose two as they have the head-to-head tie-breaker against us, as they beat us in the first few weeks of the season. I think that fact right there kinda ruins this whole scenario you just typed out. Pitt would have to lose two and Cinci would have to lose one; I would imagine you just hope for cinci and pitt losing this weekend and then cinci winning the following week and we'd be set. Doubt it happens, but it's possible.

What everyone forgets is in a 3 way tie where 2 teams are from the same division those 2 teams go head to head in tiebreakers first, and the loser is eliminated from playoff consideration regardless of their tiebreakers with the 3rd team, then the winner goes up against the 3rd team in tiebreaker scenarios. It's a very weird rule only the NFL has, but it might help the Jets out.

[Lupz27]

Coach of the year was extreme. Maybe to not that degree but Rex is doing a hell of job. Its amazing this team can win a single ball game with Mark Sanchez as their QB. Throw in the loss of the best defender in the land and your 2 best skillz players for the year and the circus created by the GM/Owner ...I'm dead serious when I say this has been a hell of a coaching job.

Preach on Jif, if I recall didn't we wipe the floor with a 9-4 team to the tune of 30-9?

[BroadwayJoe12]

What everyone forgets is in a 3 way tie where 2 teams are from the same division those 2 teams go head to head in tiebreakers first, and the loser is eliminated from playoff consideration regardless of their tiebreakers with the 3rd team, then the winner goes up against the 3rd team in tiebreaker scenarios. It's a very weird rule only the NFL has, but it might help the Jets out.

Completely unaware of that rule, especially since it sounds too obscure to be true, but if so, then that is fantastic news. Good find.

[Lil Bit Special]

here are the official tie breaking procedures for the NFL:

http://www.nfl.com/s...akingprocedures



Three or More Clubs


Apply division tie breaker to eliminate all but the highest ranked club in each division prior to proceeding to step 2.

Edited by Lil Bit Special, 10 December 2012 - 01:18 PM.

[Havnt]

Nono your'e looking in the wrong place, look here for the tie breaker: http://www.nfl.com/p...playoff-picture

The jets have the better divisional record currently as they need to get to 9-7 for anything to happen they will have to beat buffalo, securing the second place in the division

[GimmeShelter]

Coach of the year was extreme. Maybe to not that degree but Rex is doing a hell of job. Its amazing this team can win a single ball game with Mark Sanchez as their QB. Throw in the loss of the best defender in the land and your 2 best skillz players for the year and the circus created by the GM/Owner ...I'm dead serious when I say this has been a hell of a coaching job.

Rex had as big a part in creating the circus as the GM and owner. Rex did squat when Holmes became a cancer.

Which W this season was impressive in that it was a game we were not supposed to win and Rex somehow coached us to victory?
I like Rex but he is best suited as a DC. He has been in over his head since not getting the team up for the AFC title game against Pitt.

[faba]

True that Rex admitted to not knowing his team last year-damning himself. Not having control over your team and letting the bad apples roam sorry does not fly in my book as a great coach

[GimmeShelter]

True that Rex admitted to not knowing his team last year-damning himself. Not having control over your team and letting the bad apples roam sorry does not fly in my book as a great coach

Spot on. It is hilarious to read this thread and see the same guys who rightfully murder Sanchez give Rex a pass for a litany of bufoon like actions.

[JiF]

Rex had as big a part in creating the circus as the GM and owner. Rex did squat when Holmes became a cancer.

Which W this season was impressive in that it was a game we were not supposed to win and Rex somehow coached us to victory?
I like Rex but he is best suited as a DC. He has been in over his head since not getting the team up for the AFC title game against Pitt.

The Colts. They destroyed them.

Which HC in the league, lost the best defensive player in the land, there best offensive weapon and have the worst QB in the league who are technically in the playoff conversation and at least, more than likely, are going to finish with a .500 record or better?

True that Rex admitted to not knowing his team last year-damning himself. Not having control over your team and letting the bad apples roam sorry does not fly in my book as a great coach

I think humility and admitting to mistakes is a great characteristic of a leader. Rex has only been a HC for 4 years now. Learning on the job, adjusting, taking steps to ensure you dont make those mistakes again is a good thing. He clearly out sourced the offense thinking Schotty could handle it and Schotty couldnt handle it. So he vowed to get more involved and hired a disciplinary who's team never quite on him, was more than likely the wrong choice, but who knows the poor guy is stuck with Sanchez.

Spot on. It is hilarious to read this thread and see the same guys who rightfully murder Sanchez give Rex a pass for a litany of bufoon like actions.

Speaking of learning from buffoon actions - Rex in his presser today didnt guarantee a playoff spot, in fact, under .500 he said the Jets didnt deserve to be in the conversation.

Sanchez is much worse than Rex Ryan at his job. I think its impressive to be able to pull off wins with that guy as your QB. As much as you dont get how people can excuse Rex, I dont see how people cant accept how thats impressive and speaks volumes to your coaching ability. Winning despite your QB is ridiculously hard in todays NFL.

[BroadwayJoe12]

Spot on. It is hilarious to read this thread and see the same guys who rightfully murder Sanchez give Rex a pass for a litany of bufoon like actions.

Well there's a major difference you're overlooking. Operating under the assumption that Rex knows nothing about offense, he is at least extremely skilled in a singular aspect of what his job entails, whereas Sanchez is literally skilled at nothing pertaining to his. I'm not lauding Rex for beating up on the dredges of the league, but I feel as though he's winning in spite of Sanchez, whereas I've never felt that Sanchez had to fight to win becuase of his coach's mistakes.

One note; even when the Jets were 4-7, every single one of them believed they were going to make the playoffs and never seemed to quit. Say what you will about his glaring flaws, his guys don't quit on him and that speaks pretty highly.

[BroadwayJoe12]

True that Rex admitted to not knowing his team last year-damning himself. Not having control over your team and letting the bad apples roam sorry does not fly in my book as a great coach

That is true, it was an obvious and egregious mistake on his part. However, he seems to have learned from it and that's about as much as you can ask. It's pretty much status-quo that an extremely successful coaches struggle with their first job and don't really show growth from those stints until they have time to reflect and get a second chance. Happened with most of the greats. I would just assume keep Rex, let him learn from his flaws as opposed to having us be his starter wife and then having him succeed elsewhere...in which we'll probably get stuck in another four year cycle of hiring and firing a coach.

[GimmeShelter]

The Colts. They destroyed them.

Which HC in the league, lost the best defensive player in the land, there best offensive weapon and have the worst QB in the league who are technically in the playoff conversation and at least, more than likely, are going to finish with a .500 record or better?





I think humility and admitting to mistakes is a great characteristic of a leader. Rex has only been a HC for 4 years now. Learning on the job, adjusting, taking steps to ensure you dont make those mistakes again is a good thing. He clearly out sourced the offense thinking Schotty could handle it and Schotty couldnt handle it. So he vowed to get more involved and hired a disciplinary who's team never quite on him, was more than likely the wrong choice, but who knows the poor guy is stuck with Sanchez.



Speaking of learning from buffoon actions - Rex in his presser today didnt guarantee a playoff spot, in fact, under .500 he said the Jets didnt deserve to be in the conversation.

Sanchez is much worse than Rex Ryan at his job. I think its impressive to be able to pull off wins with that guy as your QB. As much as you dont get how people can excuse Rex, I dont see how people cant accept how thats impressive and speaks volumes to your coaching ability. Winning despite your QB is ridiculously hard in todays NFL.

Jets were favored against and supposed to beat the Colts. Winning inspite of your QB is impressive if you actually beat a good team or two. Rex has not done that this year.

Rex also allowed the idiot offense we saw this year of pulling his QB off the field after a completion for a 1st down in order to run TeBow into the middle of the line. Worse, he lined his QB up at WR during the majority of those plays.

Rex also has to take some blame for Sanchez and his tremendous regression. Most everyone in football and on this site thought Sanchez was a 15-20 ranked NFL QB and on the rise after the 2010 post season. What exactly has Rex done to keep Sanchez on that track or to coach him up since 2010? Burress-Holmes and Mason? Bringing inTebow the QB who shares the same agent as Rex?

Did he jump in when Holmes told Sanchez that he was a SB MVP and to go practice the routes with someone else? No he mumbled something along the lines that he was unaware how bad HIS locker room had become. The locker room he was so on top of that he named captains and then cancelled them after seeing how awful some of his choices were.

Giving kudos to Rex for finally shutting his mouth in todays press conf after 4 years of stupid comments is as bad as Rex saying Sanchez played well Sunday because he did not lose the game for us.

Yeah kudos to Rex for beating the likes of the Colts, Fins, Bills, Cards and Jags.

[Matt39]

Nice post GS.

The team has been built backwards. Rex took advantage of a pretty talented team his first two seasons, implemented his aggressive defense and caught lightning in a bottle at the end of each season with the playoff runs. Problem was, things were ignored(like this organization tends to constantly do) talent falls off a cliff, completely mismanage the pick we invested so much and and this is where we are. Celebrating 7-6 wins over the Cardinals and how our defense has jumped into the top 10.

Edited by Matt39, 10 December 2012 - 07:24 PM.

[JiF]

Jets were favored against and supposed to beat the Colts. Winning inspite of your QB is impressive if you actually beat a good team or two. Rex has not done that this year.

Rex also allowed the idiot offense we saw this year of pulling his QB off the field after a completion for a 1st down in order to run TeBow into the middle of the line. Worse, he lined his QB up at WR during the majority of those plays.

Rex also has to take some blame for Sanchez and his tremendous regression. Most everyone in football and on this site thought Sanchez was a 15-20 ranked NFL QB and on the rise after the 2010 post season. What exactly has Rex done to keep Sanchez on that track or to coach him up since 2010? Burress-Holmes and Mason? Bringing inTebow the QB who shares the same agent as Rex?

Did he jump in when Holmes told Sanchez that he was a SB MVP and to go practice the routes with someone else? No he mumbled something along the lines that he was unaware how bad HIS locker room had become. The locker room he was so on top of that he named captains and then cancelled them after seeing how awful some of his choices were.

Giving kudos to Rex for finally shutting his mouth in todays press conf after 4 years of stupid comments is as bad as Rex saying Sanchez played well Sunday because he did not lose the game for us.

Yeah kudos to Rex for beating the likes of the Colts, Fins, Bills, Cards and Jags.

Dont forget the Rams.

And you're pointing to things in his past that he's learned from. Tebow was clearly forced on him. He is now working him out of the offense. Not sure you can coach up Sanchez. I'm sure they are coaching him to be awful. All those things considered, his team is once again, in the playoff conversation. Go figure.

[JiF]

Nice post GS.

The team has been built backwards. Rex took advantage of a pretty talented team his first two seasons, implemented his aggressive defense and caught lightning in a bottle at the end of each season with the playoff runs. Problem was, things were ignored(like this organization tends to constantly do) talent falls off a cliff, completely mismanage the pick we invested so much and and this is where we are. Celebrating 7-6 wins over the Cardinals and how our defense has jumped into the top 10.

Pretty sure its all about catching lightening in bottle at the end of the season. And despite this huge talent fall off you speak of, he still manages to win games, despite all the other adversity he has to overcome.

[GimmeShelter]

Dont forget the Rams.

And you're pointing to things in his past that he's learned from. Tebow was clearly forced on him. He is now working him out of the offense. Not sure you can coach up Sanchez. I'm sure they are coaching him to be awful. All those things considered, his team is once again, in the playoff conversation. Go figure.

Yep- thanks to a weak schedule the Jets at 6-7 are in the play-off coversation momentarily despite the best efforts of Woody-Tanny-Rex and Sanchez.

[JiF]

Yep- thanks to a weak schedule the Jets at 6-7 are in the play-off coversation momentarily despite the best efforts of Woody-Tanny and Sanchez.

Fixed.