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Bryan Thomas might be done for yr.


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#1 redman81

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 02:23 PM

http://m.espn.go.com...04&city=newyork

I am hoping he is, tired of seeing his slow ass running around out there. Would rather see more McIntyre or one of the other youngs guys get some playing time.
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Posted 10 December 2012 - 02:29 PM

McIntyre was the one laying on his belly when that back ran right over his corpse for the TD.
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Posted 10 December 2012 - 02:31 PM

He was a warrior. Good Luck in your future endeavors Bryan.
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Posted 10 December 2012 - 02:32 PM

McIntyre was the one laying on his belly when that back ran right over his corpse for the TD.


he's also the guy who hit Henne when the ball popped up for Bart Scott INT
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Posted 10 December 2012 - 02:39 PM

he's also the guy who hit Henne when the ball popped up for Bart Scott INT


True.

I like him, but just because he flashes doesn't mean he's better than Bryan Thomas (who hasn't flashed in half a decade if ever).
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Posted 10 December 2012 - 02:41 PM

Thomas had a couple of years in this D in which he was a valuable asset because he could cover. Same with Pace. Those days have passed and they are both worthless. Need an overhaul at LB and this D will be very strong at every level once Revis returns.
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Posted 10 December 2012 - 02:49 PM

Yeah Thomas doesn't show flashes bc he's nowhere to be found. I feel like I hear his name one time, if that, a game. I'd rather see some youth and speed in there that can actually make impact plays.
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Posted 10 December 2012 - 02:58 PM

McIntyre isn't fast and I don't think he's particularly young.
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Posted 10 December 2012 - 03:02 PM

Thomas had a couple of years in this D in which he was a valuable asset because he could cover. Same with Pace. Those days have passed and they are both worthless. Need an overhaul at LB and this D will be very strong at every level once Revis returns.


Agreed, outside of the LBs this D is in pretty good shape, especially when you consider a mostly young DL (with lots of talent/potential) will have another year under their belts (and have shown plenty of improvement in their time so far).

Assuming the retention of Landry, the only other positions on the D I could see wanting to address would probably be the other safety spot (Bell has been solid, but is too old to rely on) and maybe NT (Pouha's age and Ellis' health/inexperience). Neither would be positions where they'd really need any big money / high draft pick spending (that needs to be saved for the O).
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Posted 10 December 2012 - 03:09 PM

Agreed, outside of the LBs this D is in pretty good shape, especially when you consider a mostly young DL (with lots of talent/potential) will have another year under their belts (and have shown plenty of improvement in their time so far).

Assuming the retention of Landry, the only other positions on the D I could see wanting to address would probably be the other safety spot (Bell has been solid, but is too old to rely on) and maybe NT (Pouha's age and Ellis' health/inexperience). Neither would be positions where they'd really need any big money / high draft pick spending (that needs to be saved for the O).


If there isnt an OLB available in the 1st, I'd be o.k. with a NT. Its necessary in this D and its hard to find big guys who can move late. I dont think there will be a single skills player worthy of a 1st round selection this year IMO. Someone will go 1st round obviously, but I wouldnt trust them one bit.

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 03:17 PM

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Team says Bryan Thomas suffered a pec strain and is day-to-day. Stephen Hill has an LCL sprain. Team says it will know more Thursday. #nyj
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Posted 10 December 2012 - 06:05 PM

Agreed, outside of the LBs this D is in pretty good shape, especially when you consider a mostly young DL (with lots of talent/potential) will have another year under their belts (and have shown plenty of improvement in their time so far).

Assuming the retention of Landry, the only other positions on the D I could see wanting to address would probably be the other safety spot (Bell has been solid, but is too old to rely on) and maybe NT (Pouha's age and Ellis' health/inexperience). Neither would be positions where they'd really need any big money / high draft pick spending (that needs to be saved for the O).


I'd really like to keep Landry and then worry about the other spot. If they don't resign Bell then maybe Bush or Allen can step in and play. Def need to address OLB without a doubt.
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Posted 10 December 2012 - 06:09 PM

I have no faith in Allen playing the other safety spot. I don't think they like him much away from the line. Bush maybe. Another NT sounds like overkill. They need to spend some on the O - money and picks. They may be well served by drafting an RB early because they will need a guy to step in and play if anybody wants to pay Greene. TE I might be happy standing pat even if Keller walks. I like Reuland and Cumberland well enough. This **** FB keeps spitting the ball up, but we can't complain about guys signed off the street. I'd bring in plenty of competition there, but I wouldn't spend anything or any picks.
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Posted 10 December 2012 - 06:14 PM

McIntyre was the one laying on his belly when that back ran right over his corpse for the TD.

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 06:22 PM

My issue with McIntyre isn't so much his play, but that he's a DE. McIntyre is basically competition for Coples IMO. They need more LBs that can actually run. Especially if they are transitioning toward 4-3. Davis seemed like a nice start, but I didn't notice him much yesterday. Harris isn't going anywhere thanks to that albatross they signed him to. The others can go or stay, but they need at least 1 speedy guy to add and Davis to pan out. Preferably two more guys.
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Posted 10 December 2012 - 07:21 PM

Thomas had a couple of years in this D in which he was a valuable asset because he could cover. Same with Pace. Those days have passed and they are both worthless. Need an overhaul at LB and this D will be very strong at every level once Revis returns.


I'm not the biggest BT fan, but the guy is still as stout vs the run as any OLB in the NFL.
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Posted 10 December 2012 - 08:16 PM

Jets need wide out who can get open
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Posted 10 December 2012 - 10:11 PM

If there isnt an OLB available in the 1st, I'd be o.k. with a NT. Its necessary in this D and its hard to find big guys who can move late. I dont think there will be a single skills player worthy of a 1st round selection this year IMO. Someone will go 1st round obviously, but I wouldnt trust them one bit.


I still believe Kenrick Ellis can be a beast on this defense. I'm hoping for an OLB or ILB in the first.

My draft positional wish list is as follows:

1.OLB
2.ILB
3.RB
4.OG
5.TE (Assuming we don't resign Keller on the cheap)
6. SS to play opposite Landry
7.WR (I want Holmes out of here)

I would say QB but I think we all know this isn't the year we'll draft the next "franchise" quarterback.

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 10:35 PM

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 09:33 AM

My draft positional wish list is as follows:

1.OLB
2.ILB


besides Jarvis Jones, there are several very good DE who could be OLB. also there's Manti T'eo who would probably come off the board where the Jets pick now (12 overall).
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Posted 11 December 2012 - 11:21 AM

besides Jarvis Jones, there are several very good DE who could be OLB. also there's Manti T'eo who would probably come off the board where the Jets pick now (12 overall).


Yes, by OLB I mean anyone that could convert to OLB. My ideal draft involves us getting Jarvis Jones but I don't see it happening as of right now. Maybe he under performs at the combine like you've alluded to in the past (slow 40 time) and he falls down to our pick or a plethora of trades like we saw in last years draft sends him down the list. Manti Te'o is the best ILB in a while, I think if you want a young leader for this defense, Manti's a great pick. I'd be exuberant with either on this team. But, this is the year of the linebackers in the draft for us. I think Scott, Thomas, and Pace need to go. Davis can step up and fill Scott's spot, and you can use a first round to replace a Pace and have MycIntyre or some other jag fill Thomas' spot for next season. If you want a complete makeover we draft dual OLBs or we draft an OLB and get rid of Harris somehow in exchange for a younger, faster linebacker who'd be less of a liability when dropping back in coverage. Already excited for the draft.
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Posted 11 December 2012 - 11:54 AM

I still believe Kenrick Ellis can be a beast on this defense. I'm hoping for an OLB or ILB in the first.

My draft positional wish list is as follows:

1.OLB
2.ILB
3.RB
4.OG
5.TE (Assuming we don't resign Keller on the cheap)
6. SS to play opposite Landry
7.WR (I want Holmes out of here)

I would say QB but I think we all know this isn't the year we'll draft the next "franchise" quarterback.


We NEED offense. They need a safety to play Landry's spot too. He's a free agent and I'm not in favor of paying him big money so that he can get hurt again. I also don't want to burn a high pick on a TE. Cumberland and Reuland are good enough IMO I'd rather get some playmaking WR and/or RB. Adrian Jones...cough, cough Austin Howard has looked good, but I'm not totally sold.
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Posted 11 December 2012 - 03:29 PM

We NEED offense. They need a safety to play Landry's spot too. He's a free agent and I'm not in favor of paying him big money so that he can get hurt again. I also don't want to burn a high pick on a TE. Cumberland and Reuland are good enough IMO I'd rather get some playmaking WR and/or RB. Adrian Jones...cough, cough Austin Howard has looked good, but I'm not totally sold.


Landry's played well, he deserves an extension he's young and he's the enforcer on this D. People are quick to forget about the Jim Leonhard/Eric Smith days. Well when you look at the offense right now at TE we have Cumberland, Reuland, Keller, at WR you got Stephen Hill, Jeremy Kerley, Santonio Holmes, Braylon Edwards (supposedly we're signing him), RB you got Greene, Powell, McKnight, Hilliard O-Line you got Brick, Mangold, Howard, Slauson, Moore, and at QB of course Mark Sanchez.

Here's the starters on offense who could potentially leave based on their contracts:

Greene
Moore
Slauson
Keller

Keller could be possibly be couped on the cheap for his down/injury plagued 2012 campaign, which would fill out the TE's for next year. Greene is most likely out. I think a complete overhaul at OG is needed to help the running game but realistically I think the cheaper (most likely Slauson) option comes back and the starter who leaves is replaced by Ducasse (unfortunately). Our WR core with Kerley, Holmes, Hill, Edwards is solid IMO and also Howard > Jones. SO that leaves the RB position up for grabs. I'd love a RB in round 2 and I completely support that cause. As long as Mark is our starter, this offense will never be elite. If we get a good running game going, we can play ball like we did in 2009 and 2010.

Here's a list of Defensive starters who are likely out of the fold next year:

Scott
Thomas
Pace
Bell
Pouha
Devito

No need to bring in more defensive linemen other than strong backups. The changing of the guard on the D-Line begins this offseason. Aside from getting rid of Bell I don't see us making changes in the secondary. NOW, LBs is a different story. Pace, Scott, Thomas are all gone this offseason. That leaves us with 1 starting LB from 2012 left on the roster. Sure, Davis can step up for Scott but OLBs is still a mess. As much as we need offense we need to keep our strengths, well, strengths.

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 03:34 PM

We NEED offense. They need a safety to play Landry's spot too. He's a free agent and I'm not in favor of paying him big money so that he can get hurt again. I also don't want to burn a high pick on a TE. Cumberland and Reuland are good enough IMO I'd rather get some playmaking WR and/or RB. Adrian Jones...cough, cough Austin Howard has looked good, but I'm not totally sold.


i agree we need offense but unless there is a stud trentv richardson RB i dont see how we can draft an offensive posiiton. The WR group when healthy isnt really that bad when you think about it (kerley holmes hill and maybe bray). I love the idea of drafting offensive lineman but i dont think thatd be a big enough impact so id rather them go get line backers. I think that would put the D into the elite discussion

the biggest change our offense needs is a franchise QB. Until we get that bleh

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 03:37 PM

id rather them go get line backers. I think that would put the D into the elite discussion

the biggest change our offense needs is a franchise QB. Until we get that bleh


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