You really care that much about the safeties? Those guys played well enough to be on a pretty solid defense. Way the hell beyond solid in 2009.
It's a single example, which we can gladly discuss others instead if you like. As far as how they fared in 2009 is concerned, it was also the first year the position wasn't a problem as they finally got someone to play across from Rhodes, and then they traded him away after the season and took 2 years to even bother to try to replace him. It's crap like that which is exactly what I'm talking about. We've seen this same exact kind of situation play out in recent years at positions such as RT, OLB, ILB, G, WR. They get progressively worse over time, ignoring the position until it becomes a major weakness on the team, at which point they might
then try to address it.
I can understand the desire to can these guys, but it's the idea that keeping them around is crazy that bothers me.
The two biggest problems I hear about Tannenbaum are:
Sanchez looks like sh*t, but the idea that the team can't win with him is relatively recent. They had two deep playoff runs with the guy. That doesn't buy him much in my book, but I can't see killing a GM for the kid regressing. Even a modest improvement would probably have kept this team in pretty good stead. Yes, the extension is borderline unforgiveable and I don't blame people for kiling him or calling for his head over it.
The entire way the QB position was handed this past offseason was enough for him to be fired on the spot. Anyone with a half a brain knew things were not looking good for Sanchez after that disaster of a season last year, back when this mess started. Tanny's solution was to lock Sanchez up into quite arguably the most idiotic contract this team has ever handed out (and that's saying A LOT), signing a second rate nobody to be the backup so Sanchez wouldn't have to worry about any real competition, then turning around and trading away draft picks and paying millions of dollars for a different backup who was the only QB in the league who was a sh*ttier passer than Sanchez last year. It was so mind-blowingly idiotic, that there is absolutely no reason this dipsh*t should be given even the slightest shred of confidence to be involved in fixing that heaping pile of sh*t he created at QB.
2. Current and 2013 cap situation.
The cap thing is sort of odd. He had been called a cap guru, so now that we have cap trouble we'll see what happens. FWIW, I think it's overblown in both directions. The team has generally been able to jettison enough to get cap room to get what/who they want. Favre, Revis, Asomugha. There hasn't been anybody they've seemed to want where salary stood in the way. This offseason they will need a bit of an overhaul and don't have much space. I'll be interested to see if Tannenbaum can pull it off this year. The rest of these guys seem to want to watch Cowher give a crack at it.
As you said, this guy is a supposed cap expert and yet the Jets constantly find themselves in cap problems. After all, the reason the Jets have guys like Scott, Sanchez and Harris in these moronic contracts to begin with is that they were structured as band-aids to help with past year's cap messes. All he keeps doing is constantly mortgaging the future to save his ass today and while I'm sure he can pull enough space out of his ass to get under the cap, it doesn't mean how he does it is going to be good for this team.
Where have we had disastrous play? RB in 2006? LG in 2007. RT in 2011? Name a team during that span that didn't have disastrous play a that many positions. The Giants won the super bowl with more disastrous play at RT last year.
while some of these are obviously more important than others, I would say there are many areas you could say the Jets have seen extremely poor performances out of positions in Tanny's time here (and I think some would argue there are some missing from this list):
QB in 2007, 2009-2012 (and that's being nice about it)
WR in 2009, 2012
TE in 2006-2008
RB in 2006, 2011
FB in 2006-2007, 2011-2012
OL in 2011
S in 2006-2011
ILB in 2006, 2011-2012
OLB in 2006-2007, 2011-2012
CB in 2006
DL in 2006-2007
You want to fire them. Fair enough. There looks to be enough reason, though personally I believe we have to let the season play out first. I think they deserve another year, depending on how the season plays out.
I think the idea that we need to let the season play out is extremely flawed, because grabbing some wins against the dregs of the league doesn't do anything to change the mess Tanny has made of this team. While unfortunately I think they will, this team can't let themselves be blinded by a mediocre season filled with major issues looking a little better at the end of the year based solely on the way the schedule was laid out.
As far as firing "them" goes, at this point Tanny is the only one that I think needs to go with 100% certainty. A new GM needs to be given the power to make all other decisions regarding who stays and goes beyond that, from top to bottom, and I could accept any of those decisions either way.