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#1 GhostOfGlennFoley

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 09:50 AM

Stop gap or long term solution? Look's like he's handled himself OKAY out there this year.
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#2 neckdemon

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 10:21 AM

better than wayne hunter.....
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Posted 16 December 2012 - 10:29 AM

I think he's done a really good job....
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Posted 16 December 2012 - 10:47 AM

better than wayne hunter.....


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Posted 16 December 2012 - 10:52 AM

Good enough if the jets had a QB and any playmakers.
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Posted 16 December 2012 - 10:57 AM

He has his not so good moments, but is not an automatic turnstile like Hunter. No idea about his salary, but good depth player if we get a legit RT.
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Posted 16 December 2012 - 11:00 AM

He has his not so good moments, but is not an automatic turnstile like Hunter. No idea about his salary, but good depth player if we get a legit RT.

If the Jets draft a RT high or sign one for big money in free agency it would be a huge mistake. This team needs playmakers. The best RT in football wouldn't make this a good team.

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 11:05 AM

If the Jets draft a RT high or sign one for big money in free agency it would be a huge mistake. This team needs playmakers. The best RT in football wouldn't make this a good team.

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#9 yanks9596

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 01:27 PM

I cannot believe that THIS is what we were all so worried about during training camp. He's good. He's fine. Get me a quarterback.
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Posted 16 December 2012 - 01:39 PM

Overall, he's done well. He needed the exposure to show his value. As long as he continues self improvement, he'll be fine. OL depth is more needed at guard going forward.
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Posted 16 December 2012 - 01:56 PM

I just noticed that PFF has the Jets OL ranked 14th overall, which makes you realize just how putrid Sanchez and Greene really are.
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Posted 16 December 2012 - 01:57 PM

I just noticed that PFF has the Jets OL ranked 14th overall, which makes you realize just how putrid Sanchez and Greene really are.


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Posted 16 December 2012 - 02:05 PM

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 02:15 PM

I just noticed that PFF has the Jets OL ranked 14th overall,


i think that's low. more like 4th overall.
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#15 T0mShane

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 02:24 PM

i think that's low. more like 4th overall.



There's nothing you can point to to make the case that they're a top-ten OL.

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 03:18 PM

O-line is not a problem now and it never was. We've all been spoiled. It's like watching Kyle Wilson give up a touchdown and saying he's a bust because of that, when it's really just a matter of Darelle Revis and Antonio Cromartie being all-world.

On winning teams, Austin Howard is the kind of guy you have - the kind that wasn't drafted high and isn't paid much and yet quietly does his job. I think the Jets will look to upgrade LG or RT in the draft, but compared with QB, WR, RB, TE and OLB it isn't really a necessity.
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#17 T0mShane

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 03:22 PM

O-line is not a problem now and it never was. We've all been spoiled. It's like watching Kyle Wilson give up a touchdown and saying he's a bust because of that, when it's really just a matter of Darelle Revis and Antonio Cromartie being all-world.

On winning teams, Austin Howard is the kind of guy you have - the kind that wasn't drafted high and isn't paid much and yet quietly does his job. I think the Jets will look to upgrade LG or RT in the draft, but compared with QB, WR, RB, TE and OLB it isn't really a necessity.



Agreed. I just watched the Giants O get crushed largely because they can't block at RT.
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Posted 16 December 2012 - 03:34 PM

If it weren't for the buttfumble, the play the Packers just ran on special teams would be the dumbest play of the year.
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Posted 16 December 2012 - 03:47 PM

I just noticed that PFF...


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(Chandler)'s a nice piece as long as he's the 7th most important player on your roster....I think they're going to be disappointed when they see he's just a pumped-up Drew Gooden.


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Posted 16 December 2012 - 03:51 PM

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 03:58 PM

If it weren't for the buttfumble, the play the Packers just ran on special teams would be the dumbest play of the year.


Yeah, so I definitely posted this in the wrong thread.
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Posted 16 December 2012 - 04:06 PM

Without taking the penalties into account I have the Jets pass protection rankings right now at 8th in the NFL. Its primarily on the strength of Ferguson who has been terrific this year. He ranks 5th in the NFL which is pretty great considering who is his QB. Unfortunately Bricks career progression is up a year down a year which is a trend he needs to break. Howard ranks 58th out of 72 players and is overwhelmed at the position which is why the Jets will look to move away from him.

In terms of rushing yardage I break the teams down into yards gained before contact per attempt. The Jets are essentially average in that category allowing 1.77 YPA before the runner is contacted. The league average is 1.73. Runners do a play a role in that as well but its a pretty solid judge. Greene is around 1.68 YPA while Powell ranks 7th at 2.24 YPA. I dont think the line miraculously blocks better for Powell. I think the primary difference is that Greene is a stutterstep runner that doesnt go for the hole if it isnt gigantic whereas Powell does.

I think if you put a better runner and QB on the team you could arguably state that the Jets offensive line would grade out top 6 or 7 in the NFL and that is with a deficiency at RT in the passing game.
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Posted 16 December 2012 - 07:57 PM

If it weren't for the buttfumble, the play the Packers just ran on special teams would be the dumbest play of the year.

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