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#26 Damaged89

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 02:42 PM

here's an idea i'll enjoy football by rooting for the players and you can enjoy football by rooting against them. And we don't try to change the other.



Do you seriously not understand the difference between wanting Mark Sanchez to be a good football player and accepting the fact the he is not?
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Posted 18 December 2012 - 02:49 PM

I'm still stunned the offense and defense haven't gotten into a fistfight a la Buddy's Eagles.


Because they all know the reason is only 1 player, and Goodell has zero tolerance for gay bashing.
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Posted 18 December 2012 - 02:51 PM

here's an idea i'll enjoy football by rooting for the players and you can enjoy football by rooting against them. And we don't try to change the other.


Thanks for proving my point. This right here is exactly why you catch so much crap, and why it's 100% deserved. You have nobody to blame for it but yourself.

As usual, you have absolutely no clue what you're talking about. You were wrong, period. It's been proven, you have no point of defense and now even you know that. Yet you still can't admit it, and it's really rather sad. Instead, you do the same thing you do every single time you're wrong, you are sure to ignore 95% of what a person posted, because you're too much of a spineless coward to own up to being proven wrong. Does it really not register with you how much you run and hide from your own failures every time you sit there and delete out line after line of the posts you quote, because you know that you have no valid response to provide to them? Then it only gets worse, as you blatantly lie, fabricating counterpoints that never were made by anyone to somehow convince your own twisted little mind that it somehow makes you right. Combine that with how laughably impressed you are with yourself and what you think is your unmatched knowledge of football, and it's really something to behold.

I assure you, the only thing I'm rooting against is you continuing on this nonsensical shtick of yours.
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Posted 18 December 2012 - 02:57 PM

As usual, you have absolutely no clue what you're talking about. You were wrong, period. It's been proven, you have no point of defense and now even you know that. Yet you still can't admit it, and it's really rather sad. Instead, you do the same thing you do every single time you're wrong, you are sure to ignore 95% of what a person posted, because you're too much of a spineless coward to own up to being proven wrong.


What was I wrong about? rooting for the Jets?.
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Posted 18 December 2012 - 02:58 PM

Because they all know the reason is only 1 player, and Goodell has zero tolerance for gay bashing.


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(Chandler)'s a nice piece as long as he's the 7th most important player on your roster....I think they're going to be disappointed when they see he's just a pumped-up Drew Gooden.


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Posted 18 December 2012 - 02:59 PM

Yeah, it's so much better to make completely baseless posts with absolutely no ability to support your positions at all, all while whining about anyone who dares disagree with you, right?

Here's an idea, if you don't want to catch so much crap when you've been proven wrong, don't act like such pompous asses when you think you're right. Nobody on this board is more impressed with themselves than you two when you think you're right, and yet you become a couple patty pissy pants about it when you're proven to have been unquestionably wrong all along. You reap what you sow.

The other option is you can just learn to base your positions on little things like oh, I don't know... facts. That might be asking too much though.


hahaa.. who are you even mad at? I don't think that description above fits Bitoni , and it certainly doesn't describe me.

what makes you think I mind "catching crap"? If I did it would be quite easy to fall in line with you and the other gloomy Gus's. You get your rocks off bashing the team and it's players and I prefer to support them. Takes all kinds.
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Posted 18 December 2012 - 03:08 PM

Jet fans turning on each other... I smell a mutiny on our hands.

Is it time for EXODUS IV- The Return To JetsInsider?????


Nah, there's not enough going on here for there to be any sort of movement of note, it's really a rather small group who we've already seen this same act out of many times before, and I don't see anyone really interested in rushing to this particular group's defense.

What we're looking at is not just some of the seasons biggest talkers, but most notably the ones who kept running their mouths about how their unsupported opinions were right and thus the 95% of the board who felt otherwise were all wrong. While that's not the most uncommon thing in the message board world, the problem is that now that there's no longer any outs, they are throwing little hissy fits because it turns out, as the rest of us already knew, they were wrong, and they can't handle it. Given that, some people are enjoying rubbing their faces in it, because of what a bunch of jackasses they were acting like when they were convinced they were right, and so they're trying to act like they are some poor innocent martyrs for getting their just deserts. Given the fact that we're talking about the same guys who every time a single play, never mind an actual game, goes in a direction that might somewhat support their position, they rush off to declare victory over everyone they can find.

Like I said before, they're now simply reaping what they've sown. It's well deserved.
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Posted 18 December 2012 - 03:09 PM

What was I wrong about? rooting for the Jets?.


Given the current theme of the board, we'll simply go with Mark Sanchez, Rex Ryan, and Mike Tannenbaum just to start.
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Posted 18 December 2012 - 03:12 PM

hahaa.. who are you even mad at? I don't think that description above fits Bitoni , and it certainly doesn't describe me.

what makes you think I mind "catching crap"? If I did it would be quite easy to fall in line with you and the other gloomy Gus's. You get your rocks off bashing the team and it's players and I prefer to support them. Takes all kinds.


You obviously do, otherwise you wouldn't be getting so butt hurt over the fact that your arrogance over a position that's been proven wrong has led to you getting your face shoved in it. You put yourself in this situation and now all you can do is get pissy because you're in it.

The fact that both of you maroons need to try to pull the absolutely nonsensical "you're rooting against the team!" card proves that without doubt, and shows how little merit anything either of you have to say has.
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Posted 18 December 2012 - 03:16 PM

You obviously do, otherwise you wouldn't be getting so butt hurt over the fact that your arrogance over a position that's been proven wrong has led to you getting your face shoved in it. You put yourself in this situation and now all you can do is get pissy because you're in it.

The fact that both of you maroons need to try to pull the absolutely nonsensical "you're rooting against the team!" card proves that without doubt, and shows how little merit anything either of you have to say has.


so is this the BG scoliding extended cut?

again.. I'm not angry, embarassed, pissy, or whatever other emotions you're trying to project on to me.

I'm just sitting at my desk typing up crap about the Jets before I go home at 4:30.

Now if you want to take this outside and make it a bare-knuckle affair we can arrange for that at a later date.
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Posted 18 December 2012 - 03:23 PM

Tannenbaum and Woody. If someone can embed, I'd appreciate it.



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Posted 18 December 2012 - 03:24 PM

so is this the BG scoliding extended cut?

again.. I'm not angry, embarassed, pissy, or whatever other emotions you're trying to project on to me.

I'm just sitting at my desk typing up crap about the Jets before I go home at 4:30.

Now if you want to take this outside and make it a bare-knuckle affair we can arrange for that at a later date.


Whatever you say. You sure seem awfully whiny and projecting a lot of things onto other people in a desperate attempt to somehow prove them wrong, for a guy who apparently has no issue with the fact that his entire position has been proven to be laughably wrong and that some people are enjoying rubbing his face in it thanks in large part to his demeanor at that time. Perhaps that's simply what you do all of the time, in which case that's my mistake. Although if that's the case, I'd recommend against running to bit's aid as he tries to blatantly lie his way out of things.
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Posted 18 December 2012 - 03:24 PM

so is this the BG scoliding extended cut?

again.. I'm not angry, embarassed, pissy, or whatever other emotions you're trying to project on to me.

I'm just sitting at my desk typing up crap about the Jets before I go home at 4:30.

Now if you want to take this outside and make it a bare-knuckle affair we can arrange for that at a later date.


Oh, and you call this extended? Seriously?

Come on, what are you new here?
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Posted 18 December 2012 - 03:41 PM

Whatever you say. You sure seem awfully whiny and projecting a lot of things onto other people in a desperate attempt to somehow prove them wrong, for a guy who apparently has no issue with the fact that his entire position has been proven to be laughably wrong and that some people are enjoying rubbing his face in it thanks in large part to his demeanor at that time. Perhaps that's simply what you do all of the time, in which case that's my mistake. Although if that's the case, I'd recommend against running to bit's aid as he tries to blatantly lie his way out of things.


real life LOL.

didn't do anything close to what you're accusing me of but ok I guess.

Man this humble pie tastes terrible.
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Posted 18 December 2012 - 03:47 PM

real life LOL.

didn't do anything close to what you're accusing me of but ok I guess.

Man this humble pie tastes terrible.


Whatever you say. This whole thing has lost it's entertainment value anyway. Carry on.
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Posted 18 December 2012 - 04:29 PM

My recommendation: ban Rutgers and dbatesman, then bring back JonEJet.
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Posted 18 December 2012 - 04:29 PM

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 04:30 PM

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 04:37 PM

My recommendation: ban Rutgers and dbatesman, then bring back JonEJet.


Banning me and Rutgers doesn't make the forum better.
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Posted 18 December 2012 - 05:15 PM

Hey Calvin, let's not make our defense out to be the '85 Bears either ... you guys suck, too.

I know ... Last 3 weeks ... who'd you play ... Arizona? Jacksonville? Tennessee? Might has well been playing a local area high school team.

How'd you do against New England? San Francisco? Pittsburgh? Even Buffalo or Miami?

Offense, Defense, Special Teams ... the whole team's a f'ing joke.
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Posted 18 December 2012 - 06:21 PM

Nah, there's not enough going on here for there to be any sort of movement of note, it's really a rather small group who we've already seen this same act out of many times before, and I don't see anyone really interested in rushing to this particular group's defense.

What we're looking at is not just some of the seasons biggest talkers, but most notably the ones who kept running their mouths about how their unsupported opinions were right and thus the 95% of the board who felt otherwise were all wrong. While that's not the most uncommon thing in the message board world, the problem is that now that there's no longer any outs, they are throwing little hissy fits because it turns out, as the rest of us already knew, they were wrong, and they can't handle it. Given that, some people are enjoying rubbing their faces in it, because of what a bunch of jackasses they were acting like when they were convinced they were right, and so they're trying to act like they are some poor innocent martyrs for getting their just deserts. Given the fact that we're talking about the same guys who every time a single play, never mind an actual game, goes in a direction that might somewhat support their position, they rush off to declare victory over everyone they can find.

Like I said before, they're now simply reaping what they've sown. It's well deserved.



I just ignore the in-fighting. its like when Mommy and Daddy Special used to fight. Earmuffs. La La La La I Cant Hear You
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Posted 18 December 2012 - 06:22 PM

My recommendation: ban Rutgers and dbatesman, then bring back JonEJet.


I say ban everyone and force people to sign up with new user names and no mention of old name. You mention your old name? Perma Ban.
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Posted 18 December 2012 - 06:23 PM

Banning me and Rutgers doesn't make the forum better.


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Posted 19 December 2012 - 08:42 AM

Just minutes after the Jets 14-10 loss to the Titans, linebacker Calvin Pace stood at his locker and admitted he was frustrated with his team’s inability to score points, Seth Walder of the New York Daily News reports.

“Story of our season. Shooting yourself in the foot, over and over and over again,” Pace told the Daily News. “I don’t care who you’re playing, you can’t beat anybody if you turn the ball over five times.”

The Jets somehow managed to stay in the game, even after Mark Sanchez threw pick after pick. But in the end, it was a Sanchez fumble that ruined the Jets’ season for good. “We have to play an opponent and play ourself. Can’t win like that,” Pace said.

Asked if it’s frustrating to watch the pathetic offense, Pace said simply, “Yeah.”
The Jets were handed a chance to win it in the final seconds when they got the ball back on the Titans 25 after a shanked punt. Safety LaRon Landry wouldn’t say whether he thought the offense could get it done that time.

“Like I said, I play defense,” Landry said. “My mindset on the sidelines? I hope they want to capitalize. I hope they want to win.”


I want to preface my comments a bit here but the truth is going back to last year:

1. Raiders Game up 17-7 and the D went to sleep.
2. Broncos game?
3. Giants Game?
4. Miami game?

I really get the fact that the defense would have a beef with the O, but last year we were 8-5 and if the D played up to its billing we would have been in the playoffs easily.

I am not defending the O here but being objective.

This year the O is terrible I get it but there is blame on the D as well. They did not show up in the Miami game this year, in the Seahawks game, etc.. etc... This debackle was a team effort.
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Posted 19 December 2012 - 09:55 AM

I want to preface my comments a bit here but the truth is going back to last year:

1. Raiders Game up 17-7 and the D went to sleep.
2. Broncos game?
3. Giants Game?
4. Miami game?

I really get the fact that the defense would have a beef with the O, but last year we were 8-5 and if the D played up to its billing we would have been in the playoffs easily.

I am not defending the O here but being objective.

This year the O is terrible I get it but there is blame on the D as well. They did not show up in the Miami game this year, in the Seahawks game, etc.. etc... This debackle was a team effort.


What's your point, that the D wasn't perfect? This isn't exactly news. It doesn't change the fact that they were immeasurably better than the offense and have every reason to be pissed at them. Not to mention, all of those games you cite featured countless turnovers by the offense as well, many of them resulting in points for the opposing team. The D certainly has work to do, there's no doubt about that, but short of the Jets having an 85 Bears / 00 Ravens type defense, this team wasn't going anywhere with this offense. And given the ridiculous rate of turnovers, I'm not sure even those Ds would have been enough to do for the Jets what they did for their respective teams.
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