Jets already looking at new general manager options but will try to keep Mike Tannenbaum in different role, report says

[slats]

sperm 5 mil in 2014 isn't a huge hit. 10+ is a huge hit. And no one is taking Mark at that salary. they'd have to renegotiate his contract which means more bonus for Mark. and the other problem with an outright cut is no offset language. which means the Jets pay him his guaranteed money AND he makes whatever from another team. If they are gonna pay him they might as well pay him to be a Jets player.

There doesn't need to be any great renegotiation of his deal. A simple process of converting the amount of his $8.25M guaranteed salary their trading partner doesn't want to pay into a bonus that the Jets would pay before they ship him off. Done. Sanchez makes the same amount, and the Jets unload him and save a couple dollars.

Sanchez could consider trying to gum that up, but the rest of his career is really best served by him moving ASAP to a team that has a real interest. I don't think the Jets will hold onto him for next season, but they could hold him beyond June 1, which would leave Sanchez with little or no real opportunities in 2013.

[Gastineau Lives]

sperm 5 mil in 2014 isn't a huge hit. 10+ is a huge hit. And no one is taking Mark at that salary. they'd have to renegotiate his contract which means more bonus for Mark. and the other problem with an outright cut is no offset language. which means the Jets pay him his guaranteed money AND he makes whatever from another team. If they are gonna pay him they might as well pay him to be a Jets player.

Player is a funny word. I'd rather pay him to go sh*t in somebody else's soup.

[Sperm Edwards]

If you cut Sanchez and blow up the cap, how bad does that ruin any opportunity at replacing Rex and Tannenbaum with A-list candidates? Who'd take this job if they're forced to sit on their hands in 2013?

I would like to think that anyone incoming who is worthwhile would see these things.

Sanchez blows up the cap whether he's here or not. The question is whether or not someone would want $5M of it to crap onto 2014's cap.

But I said the same thing you did weeks ago. Who would want to waste their potential mulligan year 1 on a sure-thing mulligan year 1 that will likely result in fewer wins than 2012? And the alternative is to get one more year deeper into this failed philosophy.

On the flip side, people may not be so quick to turn down a GM job. Those offers don't necessarily get re-offered to someone else a year or so later. At the same time, having Tannenbaum stick around & whispering into Woody's ear behind the new GM's back doesn't sound like such a great gig for anyone worth a damn.

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If you cut Sanchez and blow up the cap, how bad does that ruin any opportunity at replacing Rex and Tannenbaum with A-list candidates? Who'd take this job if they're forced to sit on their hands in 2013?

The Jets would have to do something new for them and be honest with the fans. Make no secret of the fact that 2013 is going to be a tight year under the cap, bill it as an evaluation year for the new regime or something.

And maybe throw an extra year (read: extra guaranteed money) on the GM's contract, with the understanding that he's gonna take some heat in his rookie season.

[T0mShane]

I would like to think that anyone incoming who is worthwhile would see these things.

Sanchez blows up the cap whether he's here or not. The question is whether or not someone would want $5M of it to crap onto 2014's cap.

But I said the same thing you did weeks ago. Who would want to waste their potential mulligan year 1 on a sure-thing mulligan year 1 that will likely result in fewer wins than 2012? And the alternative is to get one more year deeper into this failed philosophy.

On the flip side, people may not be so quick to turn down a GM job. Those offers don't necessarily get re-offered to someone else a year or so later. At the same time, having Tannenbaum stick around & whispering into Woody's ear behind the new GM's back doesn't sound like such a great gig for anyone worth a damn.

Jet life, baby. I'd guess the #1 priority should be getting Tannenbaum as far away from the books as possible. That cockroach has built in h

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At the same time, having Tannenbaum stick around & whispering into Woody's ear behind the new GM's back doesn't sound like such a great gig for anyone worth a damn.

This is the real rub, and Woody is a moron for even considering it. Tanny being comfortable with Bradway is one thing, but there's just no way a new outsider should be expected to be comfortable with his predecessor sitting at the right hand of the owner.

[Ryno the Jet]

If you don't pay him 6 million to play for Oakland, what do you pay him 8.5 million to do? Serious question.

Make him 3rd string and the full time scout team QB. No red jersey, and no special protection. Better yet, install our own in-house bounty system where players get cash for ripping him apart. Let the D have a feast week after week. Beat him up til he quits or is placed on IR. Doesn't really help the financials, but sure would make the D, Rex, and fans alike feel a whole lot better.

[bitonti]

There doesn't need to be any great renegotiation of his deal. A simple process of converting the amount of his $8.25M guaranteed salary their trading partner doesn't want to pay into a bonus that the Jets would pay before they ship him off. Done. Sanchez makes the same amount, and the Jets unload him and save a couple dollars.

if i understand Jason's article correctly any change to the amount (converting to bonus) creates a big 10+ mil hit in 2014. im not a contract expert, just going by what I read. also this whole finding a trading partner idea is highly speculative. No one's trading for Mark.

[slats]

if i understand Jason's article correctly any change to the amount (converting to bonus) creates a big 10+ mil hit in 2014. im not a contract expert, just going by what I read. also this whole finding a trading partner idea is highly speculative. No one's trading for Mark.

Do you think Sanchez will be out of the league if the Jets cut him? He's not JaMarcus bad, seems to be a good (if pouty) teammate, and has no off field issues. I think he's gonna find work. If a team would like to get him in early to work with him, a late round pick and a couple million isn't that steep a price for a former #5 overall.

[T0mShane]

I would like to think that anyone incoming who is worthwhile would see these things.

Sanchez blows up the cap whether he's here or not. The question is whether or not someone would want $5M of it to crap onto 2014's cap.

But I said the same thing you did weeks ago. Who would want to waste their potential mulligan year 1 on a sure-thing mulligan year 1 that will likely result in fewer wins than 2012? And the alternative is to get one more year deeper into this failed philosophy.

On the flip side, people may not be so quick to turn down a GM job. Those offers don't necessarily get re-offered to someone else a year or so later. At the same time, having Tannenbaum stick around & whispering into Woody's ear behind the new GM's back doesn't sound like such a great gig for anyone worth a damn.

Jet life, baby. I'd guess the #1 priority should be getting Tannenbaum as far away from the books as possible. That cockroach has built in his own job security, it seems.

[JustInFudge]

Jets won multiple playoff games with Mark Sanchez at QB, just less recently. The Jets have a very strong DC, an OL that was great just two years ago and could be seen as in transition (it's since lost two high end veteran starters), and I am unsure of the feat that it is to keep a QB/RB/WR group together.

Lol how is asking questions about this prime candidate to Change Directions pissing you people off? I'm sorry that I am unprepared to bow before the naming of JJ Watt, TJ Yates, and some gif from The Wire.

What philosophies would be coming here that break the ground? What do the Texans do so differently that in just ten short years they were able to to pull out two very good NFL seasons and win a game against this lowly, dummy filled franchise?

These are legitimate questions...I'm extremely open to a new FO and coaching staff, but I don't want it to be just the latest and greatest. I mean, should I buy their FO did some special scouting job on JJ Watt, or should I just remember that Watt was an extremely well thought of prospect that fell more to circumstance rather than the inability to scout by other teams (the DL that went before him include Marcell Dareus, Aldon Smith, and Von Miller in a loaded top 10)?

So, I was coming in here to do laugh and say, "only the Jets", but did this turn into who's the best "draft specialist" out there to bring into replace Tanny? Good luck, they all suck for the most part.

[bitonti]

Do you think Sanchez will be out of the league if the Jets cut him? He's not JaMarcus bad, seems to be a good (if pouty) teammate, and has no off field issues. I think he's gonna find work. If a team would like to get him in early to work with him, a late round pick and a couple million isn't that steep a price for a former #5 overall.

sanchez will find work I just would rather get the cap hit out of the way. If another team pays him 2 mil that means the Jets pay him 8.25. He's fully guaranteed that money, no matter what the other team pays him. the other option of restructuring his deal means having a 10 million cap hit for Sanchez in 2014. Enough already, Just take the hit in 2013 and pay him to hold a clipboard.

[slats]

sanchez will find work I just would rather get the cap hit out of the way. If another team pays him 2 mil that means the Jets pay him 8.25. He's fully guaranteed that money, no matter what the other team pays him. the other option of restructuring his deal means having a 10 million cap hit for Sanchez in 2014. Enough already, Just take the hit in 2013 and pay him to hold a clipboard.

You're wrong. Restructuring doesn't have to mean a larger cap hit next year. They can trade him (if they can find a dance partner) with the identical cap hit in 2014, and maybe save a few bucks in 2013.

[bitonti]

You're wrong. Restructuring doesn't have to mean a larger cap hit next year.

are you assuming that Mark gives back money? In that case yes if Mark's agent turns incompetent yes that can happen. Assuming that he likes money, they either have a big cap hit this year or next. My point is to get it out of the way. And it's all moot because no one is trading for Mark. He isn't Jamarcus but he's close.

[Lizard King]

You're wrong. Restructuring doesn't have to mean a larger cap hit next year. They can trade him (if they can find a dance partner) with the identical cap hit in 2014, and maybe save a few bucks in 2013.

Nobody is going to trade for Sanchez when they can just be patient and wait for him to be cut.

[SouthernJet]

Nobody is going to trade for Sanchez when they can just be patient and wait for him to be cut.

not true. If someone truly thinks he is a viable low cost backup they may not want to risk losing him as a free agent to some other team. A 7th rounder may be worth it to them to get him as veteran backup as opposed to losing him on open market.

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are you assuming that Mark gives back money? In that case yes if Mark's agent turns incompetent yes that can happen. Assuming that he likes money, they either have a big cap hit this year or next. My point is to get it out of the way. And it's all moot because no one is trading for Mark. He isn't Jamarcus but he's close.

No, definitely not.

Mark's due $8.25M guaranteed next year, payable by the Jets. If Mark is on a football team next year, they'll have to pay him a salary. If a team trades for Sanchez, they'd take on his contract. Obviously, no one's taking on that albatross. But they could agree to pay $2 or 3M that would come off the Jets 2013 cap. The same way the Broncos paid a portion of Tebow's bonus money when the Jets traded for him.

Someone could definitely be willing to trade some magic beans for a former #5 overall. There's no doubt in my mind that there are people out there who believe the Jets completely ****ed up Sanchez's development, and think they can do better. A late round pick and a couple million is a small price to pay for a chance to fix the guy - for someone. That pick gets Sanchez into their camp early, as opposed to after June 1 when there's not much time to work with him.

[afosomf]

Trading for Sanchez LMAO, i just bought a pig that flies too mon

[T0mShane]

Someone could definitely be willing to trade some magic beans for a former #5 overall. There's no doubt in my mind that there are people out there who believe the Jets completely ****ed up Sanchez's development, and think they can do better. A late round pick and a couple million is a small price to pay for a chance to fix the guy - for someone. That pick gets Sanchez into their camp early, as opposed to after June 1 when there's not much time to work with him.

If Pete Carroll wouldn't do it, nobody would do it. And I don't think Pete Carroll would do it.

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If Pete Carroll wouldn't do it, nobody would do it. And I don't think Pete Carroll would do it.

It's certainly no lock, but it wouldn't surprise me, either. That's all I'm saying.

[SouthernJet]

Trading for Sanchez LMAO, i just bought a pig that flies too mon

ya agree, highly doubtful anyone wants to trade for him. Our only hope is someone thinks a 7th rounder is worth it to get him basically for free as opposed to risking waiver wire.

[bitonti]

ive seen scenarios where the Jets have to give a pick to a team to take Sanchez. that's how low his value has gotten.

[Lizard King]

not true. If someone truly thinks he is a viable low cost backup they may not want to risk losing him as a free agent to some other team. A 7th rounder may be worth it to them to get him as veteran backup as opposed to losing him on open market.

Alex Smith is available this year for $1 million.

[SouthernJet]

Alex Smith is available this year for $1 million.

million more than sanchez, lol

Smith became decent only when qb guru harbaugh came to town

[SenorGato]

So, I was coming in here to do laugh and say, "only the Jets", but did this turn into who's the best "draft specialist" out there to bring into replace Tanny? Good luck, they all suck for the most part.

There are a select few drafters and play designers/planners/callers and GMs who know The Right Way and are rarely, if ever, wrong. The Jets refuse to find and hire from that group. It is always obvious who those guys are - look for the Flawless Ones. They breathe, eat, and sleep Football and are known as Football Men, the greatest race of man.

[#27TheDominator]

IMO, the one hope would be the guy from Baltimore. DeCosta. Presumably they were reaching out to him because of the Baltimore ties. In that case, he might be a GM that would want to keep Rex. If Rex actually gets along with Tanny that might allow them to find a way to keep Tannenbaum around without it hurting too bad. The guy still needs autonomy and I think that his work in Baltimore probably warrants it. I like the guys we have now, but forcing guys to keep pieces around is a recipe for disaster - see Schottenheimer, B.

[SouthernJet]

IMO, the one hope would be the guy from Baltimore. DeCosta. Presumably they were reaching out to him because of the Baltimore ties. In that case, he might be a GM that would want to keep Rex. If Rex actually gets along with Tanny that might allow them to find a way to keep Tannenbaum around without it hurting too bad. The guy still needs autonomy and I think that his work in Baltimore probably warrants it. I like the guys we have now, but forcing guys to keep pieces around is a recipe for disaster - see Schottenheimer, B.

decosta good i hear

[SenorGato]

Sounds like DeCosta would just be part of the expansion of the FO. I wouldn't mind that.

[Latinlawyer]

I woud take DeCosta from the Ravens or Macgannan from the Texans.