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#1 kelly

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Posted 25 December 2012 - 07:25 PM

Jets starting QB in 2013 is ...

Moore-Fitzpatrick-SmithUSA TODAY SportsMatt Moore, Ryan Fitzpatrick and Geno Smith are all possibilities for the Jets in 2013.For the first time since 2009, the Jets will head into the offseason with a major question surrounding the quarterback position. Mark Sanchez's regression in 2012, coupled with the expected departure of Tim Tebow, has thrown the Jets into a state of chaos.The Jets probably will try to trade Sanchez, who may demand a trade, but the likelihood of them making a deal is remote because of his $8.25 million guarantee. If he returns, Sanchez probably will be thown into an open competition or simply deemed the No. 2. Either way, they need a starting-caliber quarterback. The organization doesn't see Greg McElroy in that light.It's hard to speculate on a target because there are other variables to consider -- the possibility of a new GM, a new offensive coordinator and a new system. That said, we'll give it our best shot, examining the candidates.

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Matt Moore, Dolphins -- Obviously, Ryan Tannehill is the present and future in Miami, so Moore will be looking for a place where he could start. He's a smart game manager, capable of running a low-risk offense. Moore, 28, started 13 games for the Dolphins in 2011, throwing 16 TDs, nine interceptions and completing 60 percent. His career record is 13-12. He came off the bench in Week 8 to lead a 30-9 rout of the Jets.

Potential fit with Jets : He'd be a good, short-term fix -- and wouldn't cost a lot of money. He's the best of a watered-down free-agent market. The biggest name is Joe Flacco, but he'll sign a long-term extension with the Ravens or receive the franchise tag.

Jason Campbell, Bears -- Campbell has some impressive physical tools, but there are questions about his intangibles. He has started only seven games over the last two years and hasn't played particularly well. His career record is 31-40.

Potential fit with Jets : Ugh.

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Alex Smith, 49ers -- He was having a terrific year (13 TDs, five interceptions), but suffered a concussion and lost his job to Colin Kaepernick. Smith has two years remaining on his contract, but the 49ers have a decision to make: He's due a $1 million roster bonus in early March and his full $7.5 million salary for 2013 becomes guaranteed if he's on the roster April 1. The 49ers can't pay that kind of money to a backup if they're committed to Kaepernick, so they may look to trade him before they cut him.

Potential fit with Jets: Buyer beware. He's a system quarterback who, after five mediocre seasons, didn't flourish until he hooked up with QB guru Jim Harbaugh. And he'd be very expensive.

Michael Vick, Eagles -- He will be a free agent because he's due a $3 million guarantee if he's on the roster three days after the Super Bowl -- and the Eagles won't commit. Vick is intriguing because of his exciting skills, but he'll be 33 in June and has durability issues. Plus, he hasn't played well since 2010. He has 29 TDs, 23 interceptions and a 10-12 record over the last two seasons. He'd create a buzz, and we all know how much owner Woody Johnson covets star power at the QB position.

Potential fit with Jets: A declining player who'd create a Tebow-like circus, especially with his off-the-field baggage. There would be no way to afford him and Sanchez because Vick wouldn't come unless he's paid more.

Matt Flynn, Seahawks -- He signed a three-year, $19.5 million contract and never got on the field because of Russell Wilson. Flynn is tradeable because his 2013 contract includes only a $2 million guarantee, with a total of non-guaranteed salary of $5.25 million. On the downside, Flynn has only two career starts and he's best in a West Coast system. It's hard to imagine Rex Ryan going in that direction, but you never know.

Potential fit with the Jets: Would Pete Carroll take Sanchez, his old USC QB, in a swap for Flynn? The Jets would have to eat a lot of Sanchez's contract.

Ryan Fitzpatrick, Bills -- His days in Buffalo appear numbered because of a $3 million roster bonus due in March. The Bills would take a $10 million cap hit by releasing him, but it appears they want to start over at quarterback. Fitzpatrick hasn't been the same since signing a six-year, $62 million contract in 2011 (he has received $26 millon of that amount), but he has an 82.9 passer rating this season, which isn't horrible on a bad team.

Potential fit with the Jets: He's still only 30 years old, knows the AFC East and could be serviceable in the right offense. Of course, he's a Harvard man, which means he's probably smart enough to stay away from the Jets.

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Geno Smith, West Virginia -- He's projected as a mid- to late first-round pick. New York fans will get a chance to see him Saturday against Syracuse in the Pinstripe Bowl at Yankee Stadium. Smith has 40 TD passes and only six interceptions in the Mountaineers' wide-open offense. He has completed at least 64.8 percent in each of his three seasons as a starter. Critics say he doesn't handle pressure situations very well.

Potential fit with the Jets: There will be plenty of pre-draft buzz linking Smith and the Jets. He's the best in a suspect crop of QBs, but do you want to build your franchise around him?

Matt Barkley, USC -- In retrospect, he made a bad decision by returning to school. Barkley would've been a top-5 pick a year ago. He has skills, but he underachieved despite having a terrific pair of receivers. He threw 36 TDs, but also had 15 interceptions and injured his shoulder. He still could go in the first round if he rebuilds his stock with a strong postseason and pre-draft workouts.

Potential fit with the Jets: Another USC quarterback? That wouldn't go over too well.

Other college prospects: Tyler Wilson, Arkansas; Aaron Murray, Georgia; Ryan Nassib, Syracuse; Mike Glennon, North Carolina State; Tyler Bray, Tennessee; Landry Jones, Oklahoma.
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Posted 25 December 2012 - 07:55 PM

I'm not sure who ends the season, but 10 bucks says Sanchez starts Week 1 2013. At least my Sunday afternoons will be freed up.
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Posted 25 December 2012 - 08:24 PM

it's sanchez

can't trade him or cut him

they'll hire some guy and tell us he's going to fix him and then they'll draft a coupla WR's
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Posted 25 December 2012 - 08:29 PM

Flynn, Fitzy, Geno. I'd take a flyer on all three, but not do backflips for any.
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Posted 25 December 2012 - 08:30 PM

it's sanchez

can't trade him or cut him

they'll hire some guy and tell us he's going to fix him and then they'll draft a coupla WR's

Probably Stephen Hill level beasts.
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Posted 25 December 2012 - 10:20 PM

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Posted 26 December 2012 - 01:16 AM

Ryan Fitzpatrick? They might as well stick with Sanchez.
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Posted 26 December 2012 - 05:31 AM

It's Matt Moore, one year serviceable QB, they Draft a Rookie and let him sit and learn.


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Posted 26 December 2012 - 07:51 AM

Trade Tebow for Gabbert
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Posted 26 December 2012 - 07:57 AM

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I think this frog should be our QB. He is green and possesses the necessary reflexes and mobility. Also, he has a slightly more accurate arm than Mark Sanchez and won't be a salary cap buster.

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Posted 26 December 2012 - 09:41 AM

Sanchez..."He gives us the best chance to win".......or the frog
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Posted 26 December 2012 - 10:45 AM

None of the options listed are appealing except for one season to get us to 2014. And since we'll be sucking anyway to get a franchise QB come 2014 might as well stick with Sanchez and not have to bite the financial bullet by cutting him. He gives us the best chance to be terrible and get a game changer in 2014.
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Posted 26 December 2012 - 01:43 PM

wow...shades of 1995 all over again......
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Posted 26 December 2012 - 02:21 PM

Take Mike Glennon from NC State. This guy is going to be a star. If the Jets take Mike Glennon they will be set for many many years. Whatever they do, do not keep Sanchez or draft Barkely. Please no more USC qbs.
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Posted 26 December 2012 - 02:38 PM

where did all the greg mcelroy fans go?
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Posted 26 December 2012 - 02:39 PM

where did all the greg mcelroy fans go?


They got sacked, much like him. Word is he is hurt too. Haha.
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Posted 26 December 2012 - 04:25 PM

It's Matt Moore, one year serviceable QB, they Draft a Rookie and let him sit and learn.

I like Moore as a stand in for 2013 with McElroy as backup.
Maybe draft a QB if u like one or wait until 2014 where there are more QB choices (we will have a decent pick)
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Posted 26 December 2012 - 04:27 PM

it wouldn't be surprising to see Geno Smith go 1 to KC. that's where QB's go. the Jets won't have a shot at him
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Posted 26 December 2012 - 08:51 PM

Might as well get the money out of Sanchez, don't get him any new meat to ruin.. let Holmes deal with him next year, anyone they bring in that might win games will destroy 2014. Time to get new management, and maybe a new head coach, if one is available.

Rex is in over his head, obviously..he doesn't even lie well.
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Posted 26 December 2012 - 09:14 PM

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Brilliant! He's had time to rest his arm. Worst case, we go 10-6 and make the playoffs. Sign me up.
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Posted 27 December 2012 - 12:12 PM

where did all the greg mcelroy fans go?

laying low...after getting sacked....waaaaaay too many times :fighting0093:







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Posted 27 December 2012 - 05:13 PM

Throwing cold water on Tebow-to-Jacksonville rumblings

There is a chance that the Jaguars’ starting QB in 2013 is not currently on the roster. Week One starter Blaine Gabbert, before being placed on injured reserve with a shoulder injury, was demoted by head coach Mike Mularkey, and our sources expressed significant concerns regarding Gabbert's leadership skills and passion for the game — not to mention his total ineptitude on the field — even prior to his demotion.The man whom replaced Gabbert, Chad Henne, got out of the gate like gangbusters, but his numbers have since tapered off to, well, Gabbert-like production. Yes, the offense has performed more efficiently with Henne at the controls. No, he has not done enough to instill great confidence within the organization that he can be the long-term solution under center.

Thus, when a report surfaced late last week indicating Jets disgruntled QB Tim Tebow, a hometown kid and iconic figure throughout the state of Florida, was a “virtual certainty” to land with the Jaguars in 2013, it made sense on a number of levels.Tebow is revered in Jacksonville. The club is unsettled at the QB position. Owner Shad Khan stuck his toe in the water when Tebow was on the trade market prior to the season.However, after doing a little digging, we hear that categorizing his arrival in Jacksonville after the season as imminent is a major stretch.Khan’s prior interest in Tebow is understandable, particularly from a business standpoint. He would very likely help a small-market team that has trouble filling its gargantuan stadium do just that. Yet, the Jaguars’ ticket sales have improved this season — and Khan didn’t mandate his football people, mainly embattled GM Gene Smith, to acquire him at all costs last offseason, just to put out feelers.

Smith’s likely on borrowed time in Jacksonville. We hear there is a strong chance he will be dismissed after the season, which likely means a new GM would have to sign off on Tebow, or, potentially steer clear of the job altogether if Tebow is part of the deal.Similarly, we don’t yet know the future of Mularkey. There is a chance that he could be spared after the season, if a new GM approves.As one source astutely pointed out, the author of the original report — ESPN's well-connected Chris Mortensen — shares an agent, Jimmy Sexton, with Tebow.Tebow could very well end up a Jaguar. But as the source notes, "there are only two virtual certainties in life: Death and taxes."

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 10:23 AM

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Insider : Sanchez not a pressure player

The following quotes are from NFL scouts, coaches and front-office personnel, speaking on the condition of anonymity :

• “(Jets QB) Mark Sanchez is not a pressure player. I think part of the reason he was selected was because (the Jets) felt like he had the right temperament and personality to handle all the criticism that comes in New York. Where I think they erred is in the preparation and demands of the position — USC quarterbacks have not been known as grinders, and I think the kid has had his head too much in the bright lights. … If you ask me, they need to flush it all and start fresh. None of it is working right now — the quarterback, the head coach, the GM. They need a complete culture change.”

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 10:25 AM

I think this frog should be our QB. He is green and possesses the necessary reflexes and mobility. Also, he has a slightly more accurate arm than Mark Sanchez and won't be a salary cap buster.

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 02:55 PM

Sanchez : Where It All Went Wrong

The Quarterback Always Has Needed a Strong Support System, but He Hasn't Had It With the Jets

Less than an hour after the Jets routed the Indianapolis Colts on Oct. 14, Mark Sanchez sat on a stool in front of his locker at MetLife MET +0.21% Stadium, tying his shoes, the only player left in the room.He had thrown two short touchdowns in the game, but he had attempted just 18 passes and accumulated 82 passing yards. Running back Shonn Greene had rushed for 161 yards and three touchdowns. The Jets' defense had forced four turnovers. Sanchez's greatest contribution to the 35-9 victory was that he hadn't interfered with it.

EarlierAs he dressed, Sanchez invited his father, Nick, into the room to sit with him and talk. Nick Sanchez is a fixture at his son's games and has been since Mark was in grade school. Through his four years with the Jets, Mark Sanchez estimated, his father has attended every game save three, and it is a comfort to him to have Nick and the rest of his family there."We're just a tightknit group," said Mark, whose agent is his older brother Nick Jr. "They know the kind of pressure and scrutiny I'm under at all times, and they just want to be there to love me, no matter what."The Jets' win over Indianapolis was the most impressive of their otherwise-unimpressive season—a 26-point rout of a playoff team. But the details of that game and the locker-room scene in its aftermath serve as an appropriate symbol of the franchise's recent failure to construct a championship-level team around Sanchez.


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He is a quarterback who is accustomed to and who requires a strong support system, on the field and off. And in allowing that structure to break down—in believing that Sanchez could thrive without it—the Jets made an error so grave that it will likely force them to find another starting quarterback as part of a lengthy rebuilding process.Any evaluation of Sanchez's Jets career basically boils down to one of two assertions: Either he hasn't been and won't be an elite quarterback, or he could be if the Jets provided him with better offensive teammates. Neither theory, though, explains fully how the Jets have mishandled Sanchez since they traded up to select him with the fifth overall pick in the 2009 draft. Their mistakes even predate the draft. (The Jets didn't respond to a request for comment.)In his autobiography, "Play Like You Mean It," Jets coach Rex Ryan described his awe at seeing 24 receivers volunteer to catch passes during Sanchez's pre-draft workout for the team—as if the more friends Sanchez had, the better quarterback he must be. "I can't think of anybody who doesn't like Mark Sanchez," Ryan wrote, and that sentiment holds true today.


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Sanchez is well regarded among his teammates.

They chuckle when, having just finished a weight-room workout, he bounds through the locker room wearing a John McEnroe-style headband. They admire how he handled the media crush that accompanied Tim Tebow's arrival. They like him, and that might be the problem. The Jets mistook likability for leadership."The guy in the locker room who's supposed to be…the biggest pain in the butt is the quarterback," said SNY football analyst and former defensive lineman Kris Jenkins, who was Sanchez's teammate for two years with the Jets. "He's supposed to be that guy—your Peyton Manning type, your Tom Brady type. He's out there to win. It's going to get done because he's so driven to do that."

Over his first two seasons with the Jets, when the team reached the 2009 and 2010 AFC title games, Sanchez could afford to mature, to fit in as time passed. The Jets had wisely surrounded him with smart, respected, veteran teammates: Alan Faneca, Damien Woody, Tony Richardson, Mark Brunell.Gradually, though, the team's front office shaved those players and others like them from the roster, lifting Sanchez to a place of higher prominence within the locker room. Yet he hasn't shown he can bear the burden.After the Jets' 2011 season dissolved amid a December collapse and backbiting among teammates, Sanchez said he learned not to "be afraid of that fear of conflict with other people." But this season, there were few outward indications, if any, that Sanchez had made the team his. The visual signals he often sends when something goes wrong—head low, shoulders slumped, his dad there to reassure him at the end of every bad day—don't leave the impression of a quarterback who commands respect.

Of course, Sanchez's demeanor would be irrelevant if he performed at the same level as Manning or Brady, and it is here where the Jets have let him down to a degree.Long ago, the team's player-personnel people should have recognized that Sanchez needed a specific set of conditions around him to succeed: a top-notch rushing attack, experienced receivers and play-calling that minimized the potential mistakes he might make. (Like the 49ers had done with Alex Smith.) The Jets established those conditions in Sanchez's first two seasons, but his accuracy as a passer and his ability to decode an opposing defense's strategy have improved little since his rookie year.

Ultimately, the Jets were too optimistic about how he would develop. In their best-case scenario, they would make him the heart of the offense in a way he hadn't been. They would give him a contract extension, guaranteeing him $8.25 million next season, and it wouldn't matter if Tim Tebow were around. Sanchez would rise to the challenge. Instead, here they are. The Jets are sifting through the rubble of a 6-10 season, looking for a new general manager and a new direction. Two years removed from standing on the brink of the Super Bowl, Mark Sanchez leaves that lonely image from 2012: a quarterback, waiting for someone else's support, sitting all alone.

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