QB dept. : jets starting QB in 2013 is... ~ ~ ~

[pedro55]

Matt Moore >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sanchez

And no, I don't think Moore is all that good. The Jets are going to hit the draft for a QB. However, they also need to have a veteran QB on the roster they can trust to be a fold-the-fort type placeholder of a starter in the interim in case the rookie isn't ready to go, and that QB simply cannot be Sanchez.

The theory sounds good, except Moore has proven he just isn't that good. He couldn't beat out David Garrard or Ryan Tannehill. The only reason he stuck around was because David coudn't stay healthy. And that was during an offseason and preseason where it was assumed Matt Moore was going to be the starter. That's how bad he was in practice and in preseason. He went from being the 'starter' to a guy who they were going to cut. How is bringing him in going to do anything for the Jets?

Moore isn't better than Sanchez. That's the problem. Taking all feelings out of the equation, if Rex comes back and is HC and the Jets can't find a QB of the future in the draft, do you really think Moore is going to beat out Sanchez in practice? Considering Rex, for whatever reason, loves the guy, and Sanchez is still being paid millions, I highly doubt it. People like to have these fantasies. Moore wasn't even good enough to be a back up in Miami. And this was after a season where he started and was assumed to be the starter.

This is why I don't like the move. Spending money on a guy that might wind up the backup to Sanchez anyway isn't going to do anything for the Jets.

[pedro55]

The theory sounds good, except Moore has proven he just isn't that good. He couldn't beat out David Garrard or Ryan Tannehill. The only reason he stuck around was because David coudn't stay healthy. And that was during an offseason and preseason where it was assumed Matt Moore was going to be the starter. That's how bad he was in practice and in preseason. He went from being the 'starter' to a guy who they were going to cut. How is bringing him in going to do anything for the Jets?

Moore isn't better than Sanchez. That's the problem. Taking all feelings out of the equation, if Rex comes back and is HC and the Jets can't find a QB of the future in the draft, do you really think Moore is going to beat out Sanchez in practice? Considering Rex, for whatever reason, loves the guy, and Sanchez is still being paid millions, I highly doubt it. People like to have these fantasies. Moore wasn't even good enough to be a back up in Miami. And this was after a season where he started and was assumed to be the starter.

This is why I don't like the move. Spending money on a guy that might wind up the backup to Sanchez anyway isn't going to do anything for the Jets. Especially if Rex stays and his defense plays better with Revis. Remember, if they beat the Titans, they finish 8-8. If they find a way to win some other game, they are 9-7 and close to the playoffs. And they were never a good team this year.

How do you rebuild for the future if a new GM comes in and Rex leads the Jets to a 9-7 record. Even if they don't make the playoffs the assumption will be the Jets were supposed to be rebuilding and Rex made them a 9-7 team. And with this defense, they can do that.

Suddenly the Jets are stuck in the same madness of never improving. Moore is not the answer. Not even close.

[Bleedin Green]

The theory sounds good, except Moore has proven he just isn't that good. He couldn't beat out David Garrard or Ryan Tannehill. The only reason he stuck around was because David coudn't stay healthy. And that was during an offseason and preseason where it was assumed Matt Moore was going to be the starter. That's how bad he was in practice and in preseason. He went from being the 'starter' to a guy who they were going to cut. How is bringing him in going to do anything for the Jets?

Moore isn't better than Sanchez. That's the problem. Taking all feelings out of the equation, if Rex comes back and is HC and the Jets can't find a QB of the future in the draft, do you really think Moore is going to beat out Sanchez in practice? Considering Rex, for whatever reason, loves the guy, and Sanchez is still being paid millions, I highly doubt it. People like to have these fantasies. Moore wasn't even good enough to be a back up in Miami. And this was after a season where he started and was assumed to be the starter.

This is why I don't like the move. Spending money on a guy that might wind up the backup to Sanchez anyway isn't going to do anything for the Jets.

The point is that Sanchez simply has no possible viable reason for being on this team anymore. His mere presence is a detraction to the Jets at this point. Even if the Jets find another player who was exactly the same as Sanchez (and Moore is at least a little better, even if he's not that good himself), just the fact of it being another person that isn't Sanchez would be an immediate upgrade to the Jets. It also would avoid any potential mess with Rex's stupid ass not wanting to throw Sanchez to the bench in favor of a rookie. All the Jets need is someone to keep the seat warm in the short term that this team will have absolutely no hesitation whatsoever in tossing straight to the bench the instant they've got someone else ready to go. Sanchez cannot be that, as he is literally the worst option at QB for this team next season and yet would still likely be way too much trouble for these idiots to bench in favor of some young kid, regardless of how completely deserved it may be.

[Lupz27]

Matt Moore >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sanchez

And no, I don't think Moore is all that good. The Jets are going to hit the draft for a QB. However, they also need to have a veteran QB on the roster they can trust to be a fold-the-fort type placeholder of a starter in the interim in case the rookie isn't ready to go, and that QB simply cannot be Sanchez.

The Jets should cut Sanchez sign/trade for both Curtis Painter, and Dan Orlovsky, let them have an open QB competition, choose who ever is WORSE, and pull a 2011 Indy Colts, call it suck for ManzWaterClown!

[kelly]

The Jets should cut Sanchez sign/trade for both Curtis Painter, and Dan Orlovsky, let them have an open QB competition, choose who ever is WORSE, and pull a 2011 Indy Colts, call it suck for ManzWaterClown!

ok ,..now, that's^^^ a plan ...a very, very bad one.... but a plan

[kelly]

Jets' starting QB job open

The New York Jets' starting quarterback job is essentially open as of now.

Jets' Offense Still A Problem

The Jets struggling on offense isn't a new problem. The Jets haven't produced a top-10 offense since 1998 when they finished fourth in the league under Bill Parcells.

Most consecutive seasons since

last top-10 offense Team Seasons -- Elias Sports Bureau Dolphins 17 Ravens 15 Jets 14 Bears 13 Bills 12

Team owner Woody Johnson and coach Rex Ryan said Tuesday that Mark Sanchez's contract will not be a determining factor in who starts next season. Sanchez is guaranteed $8.25 million next season whether he starts or not."The financial part of it will not have any of the considerations for it,"Ryan said."We'll play the player that fits what we do best."Johnson then tried to downplay the significance of displacing Sanchez, who was handpicked by Ryan to be the franchise quarterback in 2009, the coach's first season with the team."I think pretty much every year there's competition among players," Johnson said.The Jets also have quarterbacks Tim Tebow and Greg McElroy on the roster.Johnson and Ryan said the quarterback decision -- and many others -- will be made in conjunction with hiring a new general manager and offensive and defensive coordinators. The Jets are launching a search for replacements after former GM Mike

Tannenbaum was fired the day after the season, offensive coordinator Tony Sparano was fired Monday and defensive coordinator Mike Pettine's contract expired. The Jets will move quickly to replace Pettine, with secondary coach Dennis Thurman likely to be promoted.Falcons director of player personnel Dave Caldwell is scheduled to interview Tuesday for the second time for the Jets' open GM position, a league source told ESPN. Caldwell, who is a finalist for the Jaguars' GM vacancy, interviewed for a third time with Jacksonville on Monday. Sanchez took the team to the AFC Championship Game in both of his first two seasons with the team, but struggled mightily this season after the team brought in Tebow as a backup and option specialist. Despite two seasons left on his rookie deal, Johnson and Ryan did not commit to having Tebow back, either."Tim is under contract right now with our football team, and that's what I know," Ryan said.

Sanchez threw 18 interceptions, and his 36 over the past two seasons lead the NFL in that time period. This season he threw only 13 touchdowns and was ultimately removed from the starting spot for McElroy in Week 16, although Sanchez started the finale after McElroy was ruled out with a concussion.

The Jets are interested in trading Sanchez, but his contract is a bit of an albatross. With a cap number of $12.8 million if they keep him, the Jets would take a $17.1 million cap hit if they cut him. The team could try to rework his contract in order to invite a trade, but there is no way to discard the quarterback without a financial ripple effect on the entire roster.The straitjacket of Sanchez's contract could be one of the reasons Tannenbaum, rather than Ryan, took the fall after the Jets' poor showing.

> http://espn.go.com/n...-jets-choose-qb

[bitonti]

again I question how Rex hand picked Sanchez. He's a defensive specialist head coach. He's not the director of scouting. He's not the general manager. Tanny just got fired for this.

and even if he did, in what universe is Rex looking at Mark a soft Mission Vijeo d-bag from d-bag university and saying gee this guy who's never seen a snowflake, and has no damn experience, that's the guy for my all weather offense.

[Matt39]

again I question how Rex hand picked Sanchez. He's a defensive specialist head coach. He's not the director of scouting. He's not the general manager. Tanny just got fired for this.

and even if he did, in what universe is Rex looking at Mark a soft Mission Vijeo d-bag from d-bag university and saying gee this guy who's never seen a snowflake, and has no damn experience, that's the guy for my all weather offense.

They went to his stupid workout and admitted they based their decision on McKnight and his buddies showing up while Freeman didnt have as many friends.

[kelly]

again I question how Rex hand picked Sanchez. He's a defensive specialist head coach. He's not the director of scouting. He's not the general manager. Tanny just got fired for this.

and even if he did, in what universe is Rex looking at Mark a soft Mission Vijeo d-bag from d-bag university and saying gee this guy who's never seen a snowflake, and has no damn experience, that's the guy for my all weather offense.

he did help us to the playoffs his first two seasons

[kelly]

fyi :

GM dismisses Tim Tebow interest

Jacksonville Jaguars general manager David Caldwell has dismissed the possibility of Tim Tebow joining the team.

"I can't imagine a scenario where he would be a Jacksonville Jaguar," Caldwell said Thursday at his introductory news conference.

Tebow likely will be available this offseason after a disappointing campaign with the New York Jets, who were unable to find a consistent role for the former Heisman Trophy-winning quarterback.Sources told ESPN last month the Jets likely will release Tebow, a Jacksonville native who has been linked to the Jaguars on numerous occasions.

> http://espn.go.com/n...ans-new-gm-says

[kelly]

New Jax GM on Tebow: No way

So much for the possibility of Tim Tebow experiencing a soft landing in his hometown of Jacksonville.

New Jaguars general manager David Caldwell, in his introductory news conference Thursday, slammed the door shut on that possibility.

"I can't imagine a scenario where he'd be a Jacksonville Jaguar -- even if he's released," Caldwell said emphatically.

It's not hard to figure out what happened here: Jaguars owner Shahid Kahn is a huge Tebow fan and was telling people he wanted him, but he's obviously deferring to his new GM on this one. Caldwell probably made that clear to Kahn in his three interviews before getting the job.

Tebow won't be back with the Jets, as we reported last month. They gave up a fourth-round pick, paid him $1.5 million and only used him for 73 plays on offense. At some point before free agency in March, they will release him.The only teams that expressed interest in Tebow when the Broncos put him on the trading blocks were the Jets, Jaguars and Rams. Needless to say, he might have a hard time catching on somewhere next season.

On a side note, you have to like Caldwell's direct, no-nonsense approach to the Tebow matter. It was refreshing to hear an honest answer; the Jets haven't given an honest answer on Tebow in, oh, about nine months.

> http://espn.go.com/b...on-tebow-no-way

[kelly]

Note to Jets : Seahawks likely open to trading backup QB Flynn

The only thing that might take the Jets longer to find than a new general manager is a new quarterback.With all the focus on the team finding a general manager and an offensive coordinator, it’s easy to forget the team’s biggest hole is at quarterback and whoever winds up in those jobs will have the challenge of fixing the Jets’ situation under center.

The Seahawks sound as if they are open to dealing Matt Flynn, and he could be an interesting target for the Jets. The Seahawks signed Flynn to a three-year, $26 million deal last year and everyone assumed he would be their starting quarterback after years as Aaron Rodgers’ backup in Green Bay. Then, Russell Wilson won the job over the summer and cemented his place as the future of the franchise with his performance this season.

COMPETITION FOR SANCHEZ ?

Because of Russell Wilson’s emergence, the Seahawks are expected to trade backup quarterback Matt Flynn, but Seattle likely is looking for mid-round draft picks & not looking to trade for Sanchez,who played for Pete Carroll at USC.During his season-ending press conference Monday, Seahawks coach Pete Carroll praised Flynn and said they will address his situation this offseason.“As we move forward, we’re going to figure it out,” Carroll said. “We’re fortunate that we have two really good football players in our program and we’ll figure out what’s best.”The Jets could get some insight into Flynn’s situation today when they reportedly will interview Seahawks vice president of football administration John Idzik for a second time. Idzik is one of a handful of candidates expected to interview for a second time this week as the Jets try to find the replacement for Mike Tannenbaum.

Flynn is scheduled to make $5.3 million in base salary in 2013 and count $7.25 million against the salary cap. That is going to be too much for the Jets to handle unless they can find someone to take Mark Sanchez off their hands, something highly unlikely. Even if the Jets somehow found a trade partner for Sanchez, his cap number is still going to be high. It would be $8.9 million plus the amount of money the Jets had to pay of his 2013 salary. No team is going to trade for Sanchez unless the Jets eat a significant portion of his $8.25 million salary.If the Jets cut Sanchez, the cap charge would be at least $12.4 million in 2013 with a post-June 1 designation.All of that means the Jets already have a large amount of money tied up in the quarterback position. There is also the cost of the trade. The Seahawks are most likely going to get a mid-round draft pick for Flynn. With so many holes to fill, can the Jets realistically trade away draft picks ?

There is an idea Carroll might trade Flynn for Sanchez because he coached Sanchez at USC. Forget it. Carroll said Monday that Seattle realizes it needs to find a backup with a similar skill set to Wilson so that if he gets injured it does not need to revamp its offense. Sanchez is not running any zone-read-option plays.“It’s a good point and we’ve talked a lot about that,” Carroll said. “It would be nice to have another guy who might be able to be a factor in that way. There’s some really good kids out there. We’ll see.”

* The Jets interviewed Stanford offensive coordinator Pep Hamilton yesterday for their coordinator opening, according to a source. The team has interviewed Hamilton, Eagles offensive coordinator Marty Mornhinweg and former Ravens offensive coordinator Cam Cameron, according to sources.

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> http://www.nypost.co...tm_content=Jets

[TechJet]

No more USC QB's please time to go in another direction at QB. Campbell,Vick or Smith I want Michael Vick as Jet QB. We get Vick and we are instant SB contenders again.

[bmd71]

Nick Foles could be available. If so, this is worth exploring.

[CrazyCarl40]

Nick Foles could be available. If so, this is worth exploring.

Not really. He'd cost a draft pick to acquire (we shouldn't be doing that) and there is nothig about him that screams improvement or franchise QB.

[bmd71]

Not really. He'd cost a draft pick to acquire (we shouldn't be doing that) and there is nothig about him that screams improvement or franchise QB.

Well it seems like he won't be available afterall. Here's what new Eagles Head Coach Chip Kelly about Foles in 2011:

I’ll tell you what; I’m glad Nick Foles is graduating," Kelly said at the time. "I catch myself watching him in awe sometimes. ... Nick is a hell of a football player. That kid’s a warrior. He’s as good as anyone in the country." Kelly's Oregon Ducks faced Foles' Arizona Wildcats annually in the Pac 12. Kelly was also effusive in his praise of Foles at Thursday's press conference

[kelly]

No more USC QB's please time to go in another direction at QB. Campbell,Vick or Smith I want Michael Vick as Jet QB. We get Vick and we are instant SB contenders again.

agree re ----> NO more USC QB's ! ! !

[kelly]

Can the Jets land QB Matt Flynn next ?

Now that the New York Jets have hired a new general manager, the next big question is can former Seattle Seahawks executive John Idzik find a quarterback to compete with or supplant Mark Sanchez ?

There is a backup in Seattle that should now catch New York's attention: Matt Flynn. Idzik was part of a front office that liked Flynn enough to sign the quarterback to a three-year, $19.5 million contract. It turns out Seattle drafted a better quarterback in rookie standout Russell Wilson. That makes Flynn a tradable asset this offseason.The Jets will definitely be in the market for a quarterback. Sanchez had four years to prove he was the long-term solution and regressed. He is due $8.25 million in guaranteed salary next season. However, that doesn’t mean a starting job is secured.

Many have mentioned the idea of a straight-up trade involving Flynn and Sanchez, but I doubt that would happen. Pete Carroll was Sanchez's college coach at USC, but that doesn't mean Carroll and the Seahawks are willing to pay $8.25 million in 2013 for a struggling backup.The Seahawks are smarter than that. If Idzik and the Jets want Flynn bad enough, Seattle would be better served securing a quality draft pick (or two) in order to continue building its team.

> http://espn.go.com/b...matt-flynn-next

[kelly]

Jets unlikely to add Michael Vick, may target Tarvaris Jackson

When Marty Mornhinweg was named the Jets’ offensive coordinator, speculation immediately began that Michael Vick could be the next quarterback to join the Jets’ circus. But that does not appear likely.Although Mornhinweg and Vick worked together for four years in Philadelphia, ESPN’s Adam Schefter reports that Vick and Mornhinweg weren’t on great terms and wouldn’t want to work together again in 2013.And anyway, the Jets are already bound to pay Mark Sanchez like a starter whether they want to or not, and they don’t want to add another expensive option, which Vick is likely to be, assuming he gets cut by the Eagles and becomes an unrestricted free agent.

The New York Post reported that the Jets would be unlikely to make a move for Alex Smith of the 49ers or Matt Flynn of the Seahawks for the same reason: They’d be too expensive.Still, the Jets do want someone who can compete with Sanchez. So who might that be? Schefter says new Jets G.M. John Idzik has always been a believer in Tarvaris Jackson, who was the Seahawks’ starter in 2011 while Idzik was Seattle’s V.P. of football administration. The Post also reported that Jackson could be a possibility with the Jets, as could Matt Moore, Jason Campbell or David Garrard.

Jets fans probably aren’t going to be excited about any of those names. Actually, Jets fans should probably just go ahead and resign themselves now to the fact that they won’t be excited about any of their quarterback options in 2013.

> http://profootballta...ackson/related/

[kelly]

Seahawks appear poised to move Flynn

If the right offer comes around, expect the Seahawks to be willing to part with backup QB Matt Flynn. Everything we’ve heard from around the league matches what GM John Schneider said on a radio show — that the team would have to field calls for Flynn if they came in.

Although the team has not spent a ton collectively on the QB position as a whole, with rookie starter Russell Wilson making only $660,000 in base salary, with Flynn’s $5.25 million base for 2013, that’s a lot to pay a backup.

Is there a team willing to trade something for Flynn ?

A handful of clubs offered him free-agent contracts a year ago, and there are some expected QB jobs to be open. With not every GM and head-coaching job filled, it’s difficult to compile a complete list of teams that might be interested.But sources indicate that there should be a tepid market for Flynn’s services. If the Seahawks don’t ask for much in return or can find a way to pay some of his salary, there could be a trade to be made.

The only issue :

Wilson and Flynn currently are the only QBs on the roster. The team had four in training camp a year ago and could bring back a familiar face or add new ones through the draft, free agency or trade. The Seahawks also could aim to match the skills of the backup more to those of Wilson.

> http://www.profootba...d-to-move-flynn

[kelly]

Jets Ponder Another Running QB

The Jets appear to be the most interested suitor in Michigan quarterback-turned-wide receiver Denard Robinson.After a season in which the Jets failed to turn Tim Tebow into an asset, they are seriously considering plucking another jack-of-all-trades quarterback in this year's NFL draft.The team appears to be the most interested suitor in Michigan quarterback-turned-wide receiver Denard Robinson. Jets brass met here with Robinson on Monday night, his longest meeting with any team so far. He said Tuesday that he felt the interest was genuine, calling the meeting a "great deal."

Robinson is an intriguing prospect since he isn't expected to even attempt to play quarterback at the pro level, and for good reason. He is listed, generously, at 6 feet, and he broke Pat White's record for career rushing yards by a quarterback. In two of his four seasons at Michigan, he had more rushing attempts than he did passing attempts.And so at this week's Senior Bowl, Robinson—who isn't cleared for contact after a nerve injury in his right elbow sustained during the season—is trying to prove to the Jets and the rest of the league that he can do something else.Robinson returned punts Tuesday and said he is picking the brains of fellow Michigan receivers Roy Roundtree and Jeremy Gallon about playing wideout. When he leaves Mobile and resumes training, Robinson said he would focus on catching live-action punts with his Michigan teammates. He is expecting to play in Saturday's Senior Bowl, an annual showcase of top college players.

If Robinson can play receiver, his quickness could help the Jets, who ranked 30th in pass yards this season. Their biggest receiving threat, Jeremy Kerley, had a respectable 827 yards this season, but the Jets had little beyond that. Jeff Cumberland was their second-leading receiver with 359 yards; Chaz Schilens (289), Stephen Hill (252) and late-season addition Braylon Edwards (125) rounded out the mediocre group.It is unclear where, exactly, Robinson will be drafted since this week is more or less his debut as a full-time wide receiver. He would constitute a pick of luxury for the Jets, since they have major holes at offensive line and safety, one of which they likely will address in the first round. They spent a second-round pick on Hill in last year's draft.Robinson said he is trying to model himself after former Kentucky quarterback Randall Cobb, who has become a star with the Green Bay Packers as a receiver and returner, and former Indiana quarterback Antwaan Randle El, who was a standout all-purpose player last decade with the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Clearly, Robinson shouldn't model himself after whatever it was that became of Tebow with the Jets last season.

Once envisioned as someone who could play a mix of quarterback, running back and punt protector, Tebow never found much of a role with the Jets, and his use in the "Wildcat" package failed to make much of an impact. Tebow finished the season with 39 passing yards and 102 rushing yards.The difference is that Tebow was married to the idea of playing quarterback, while Robinson, it seems, is open to doing anything."I'm just focused on receiver and trying to get better at that," he said. He noted that he enjoyed his role in Michigan's loss in this year's Outback Bowl, where he lined up at running back and rushed 23 times for 100 yards against a talented South Carolina defense."There's certainly no question about his quickness, and there's certainly no question about run-after-the-catch because he's a talented guy with the ball in his hands," said NFL Network draft analyst Mike Mayock.

"So the questions are [whether he] can run routes—and by the way, we can teach that—and most importantly, what are his hands like?" Mayock said. And right now it's way too early for me, after one practice when he competed against defensive backs, to say whether he's a natural catcher of the ball or not, and that's what we need to figure out."

Write to Kevin Clark at kevin.clark@wsj.com

> http://online.wsj.co...SJ_topics_obama

[kelly]

Jets gauge weak QB class at Senior Bowl

Jets general manager John Idzik and senior personnel executive Terry Bradway fixed their stare at the quarterbacks at the North team’s Senior Bowl practice yesterday morning.The two watched North Carolina State quarterback Mike Glennon zip passes to receivers, practice his footwork and try to prove he is worth a draft pick in April. Quarterback is the biggest question mark on a Jets team featuring plenty of them. Four-year starter Mark Sanchez is expected to be back because of his contract, but he will have competition. The Jets could find that competition in the draft.

ARMED & READY: N.C. State’s Mike Glennon is one of the QBs at the Senior Bowl this week whom new Jets GM John Idzik and personnel exec Terry Bradway have their eyes on.

This year’s quarterback class is considered weak by the draft experts, and it is possible there is not one taken in the first round. The Jets could target a quarterback in the second or third round. Lately, that has been good enough. Russell Wilson (third round) of the Seahawks, Colin Kaepernick (second round) of the 49ers and Andy Dalton (second round) of the Bengals have shown you don’t need to be a top-10 pick to start at quarterback and find success. “That position is dictated a lot by supply and demand,” one NFL scout said. “But you look at those guys and you can see that you can find a quarterback outside the first round.”

Glennon has been impressive in the first two days of Senior Bowl practices. At 6-foot-6, he towers over the huddle. His size has drawn comparisons to Ravens quarterback Joe Flacco, a comparison he is welcoming this week. “We’re both tall guys with similar throwing motions,” Glennon said. “I don’t know Joe personally, but from watching him on TV I think we kind of have similar mannerisms and personality. That’s just from watching him. … I wouldn’t mind being compared to him with him going to the Super Bowl. Obviously he’s done a lot, and I have a lot to prove.” Glennon sat for three years behind Wilson at N.C. State. He stepped in and played well over the past two years. ESPN draft analyst Mel Kiper Jr. is high on Glennon and believes he could be the first quarterback taken in the draft.

Some of the top qb names are not here this week like Matt Barkley of USC & Geno Smith of W. Virginia.Arkansas’ Tyler Wilson is an intriguing possibility who is projected as a second-round pick. He said he had an interview scheduled with the Jets last night. Some people thought Wilson should have left Arkansas last year, but he stayed for his fifth season there. He believes that works in his favor.“I think it gave me confidence,” Wilson said. “Even though we weren’t winning and the numbers weren’t quite what they were the year before, when you’re a senior there’s a confidence about you that it’s your team. You know what to expect. I think that serves me well going forward.”

The Razorbacks had a disappointing year as they experienced coaching turnover and went 4-8. Wilson threw 21 touchdowns and 13 interceptions after throwing 24 touchdowns and just six interceptions the year before. He said NFL teams are curious about what happened. Wilson said the adversity he experienced last season only can help him.“You have to battle through some of that and learn,” Wilson said. “Especially at the next level it’s going to be tough the whole time.”

brian.costello@nypost.com

> http://www.nypost.co...tm_content=Jets

[slats]

Flynn is scheduled to make $5.3 million in base salary in 2013 and count $7.25 million against the salary cap. That is going to be too much for the Jets to handle unless they can find someone to take Mark Sanchez off their hands, something highly unlikely. Even if the Jets somehow found a trade partner for Sanchez, his cap number is still going to be high. It would be $8.9 million plus the amount of money the Jets had to pay of his 2013 salary. No team is going to trade for Sanchez unless the Jets eat a significant portion of his $8.25 million salary.If the Jets cut Sanchez, the cap charge would be at least $12.4 million in 2013 with a post-June 1 designation.All of that means the Jets already have a large amount of money tied up in the quarterback position. There is also the cost of the trade. The Seahawks are most likely going to get a mid-round draft pick for Flynn. With so many holes to fill, can the Jets realistically trade away draft picks ?

First of all, it should be noted that Sanchez costs $12.85M if he's on the roster this year, so that's sunk money. It's done.

Second, John Idzik should have a rare, first hand perspective on whether or not it's worth it to trade for Matt Flynn. I have no problem with whatever call he chooses to make here.

There is an idea Carroll might trade Flynn for Sanchez because he coached Sanchez at USC. Forget it. Carroll said Monday that Seattle realizes it needs to find a backup with a similar skill set to Wilson so that if he gets injured it does not need to revamp its offense. Sanchez is not running any zone-read-option plays.“It’s a good point and we’ve talked a lot about that,” Carroll said. “It would be nice to have another guy who might be able to be a factor in that way. There’s some really good kids out there. We’ll see.”

Third, doesn't Tim Tebow fit that mold?

[Strangefunk]

Its looking like Crapchez will stay, a cheap vet minimum guy will be brought in as a QB and a drafted Qb will be brought in as well. So you will have:

1) Cheap Vet QB

2) Rookie Drafted QB

3) Crapchez

Will be Battling for the QB spot. Now because of the $$$ involved, the Jets will not draft a QB in the first round. I see them with a Round 2-4 QB pick. Crapchez can fetch hotdogs and grab GQ covers while the real QBs battle it out.

[slats]

Its looking like Crapchez will stay, a cheap vet minimum guy will be brought in as a QB and a drafted Qb will be brought in as well. So you will have:

1) Cheap Vet QB

2) Rookie Drafted QB

3) Crapchez

Will be Battling for the QB spot. Now because of the $$$ involved, the Jets will not draft a QB in the first round. I see them with a Round 2-4 QB pick. Crapchez can fetch hotdogs and grab GQ covers while the real QBs battle it out.

If there was a QB worthy of being picked at #9, I really don't think they'd hesitate.

[JetsFanInDenver]

I am not an expert at sorting out trades and i do not know the contract situation of Matt Flynn.

But can we do a Matt Flynn for Santonio Holmes trade. Seahawks might want more weapons on offense for Wilson and we NEED a QB.

[pedro55]

I am not an expert at sorting out trades and i do not know the contract situation of Matt Flynn.

But can we do a Matt Flynn for Santonio Holmes trade. Seahawks might want more weapons on offense for Wilson and we NEED a QB.

I don't see the Jets having a big contract of Flynn and Sanchez on the same roster. Makes no sense.

[JetsFanInDenver]

I don't see the Jets having a big contract of Flynn and Sanchez on the same roster. Makes no sense.

Its the Sanchez contract that makes no sense. That's why Tanny is out of a job!

[pedro55]

Its the Sanchez contract that makes no sense. That's why Tanny is out of a job!

I agree with that, but on the same note, the matt flynn contract makes no sense considering he never even played.

[JetsFanInDenver]

I agree with that, but on the same note, the matt flynn contract makes no sense considering he never even played.

Hey its not like some QB as good as Montana was outside the doors of Florham Park waiting to play for minimum wage. Because of Sanchez and his contract the JETS options are going to be very limited.

[pedro55]

Hey its not like some QB as good as Montana was outside the doors of Florham Park waiting to play for minimum wage. Because of Sanchez and his contract the JETS options are going to be very limited.

To me the best option is to spend on other players. Sanchez is what he is and his contract is what it is, if Marty is any good, maybe he can get more out of him. Remember Alex Smith sucked and Harbaugh wound up in the NFC championship game with him. And they still found Kapernick. I'd rather the Jets find some young QB in the draft, find other position players in the draft and free agency, and develop the new young QB. If Sanchez starts and sucks or Greg starts and sucks, oh well.

I really don't see a point in wasting more money on a QB like Flynn who is way overpriced for what he is, and/or a Matt Moore who might be cheaper, but how much cheaper for a guy who really isn't good enough to be an NFL Backup.

The reality is they need to find a QB in the draft who might become good enough to lead a team. This pipe dream of "waiting till next year to find a franchise QB' is what most teams, including the Jets, have dreamed about since the beginning of time.

[JetsFanInDenver]

To me the best option is to spend on other players. Sanchez is what he is and his contract is what it is, if Marty is any good, maybe he can get more out of him. Remember Alex Smith sucked and Harbaugh wound up in the NFC championship game with him. And they still found Kapernick. I'd rather the Jets find some young QB in the draft, find other position players in the draft and free agency, and develop the new young QB. If Sanchez starts and sucks or Greg starts and sucks, oh well.

I really don't see a point in wasting more money on a QB like Flynn who is way overpriced for what he is, and/or a Matt Moore who might be cheaper, but how much cheaper for a guy who really isn't good enough to be an NFL Backup.

The reality is they need to find a QB in the draft who might become good enough to lead a team. This pipe dream of "waiting till next year to find a franchise QB' is what most teams, including the Jets, have dreamed about since the beginning of time.

Sanchez on the field for one more year would be impossible unless he has a very strong training camp. The fans will chase him out of the stadium. Last season we knew right of the bat that Sanchez sucked in the training camp, then in the pre-season and the rest as they say is history.

The JETS will need to have some options at QB not named Tebow to have some competition for the QB's job in training camp. Matt Moore is an option. Campbell or T. Jackson maybe too. Flynn has a decent sized contract like 3 yrs for 19.5 mill but if we can trade a bad contract (like Holmes) for him it may not be a bad option. Again no perfect solutions here but it's about upgrading a position and hopefully have enough time to prepare for the future.

[pedro55]

Sanchez on the field for one more year would be impossible unless he has a very strong training camp. The fans will chase him out of the stadium. Last season we knew right of the bat that Sanchez sucked in the training camp, then in the pre-season and the rest as they say is history.

The JETS will need to have some options at QB not named Tebow to have some competition for the QB's job in training camp. Matt Moore is an option. Campbell or T. Jackson maybe too. Flynn has a decent sized contract like 3 yrs for 19.5 mill but if we can trade a bad contract (like Holmes) for him it may not be a bad option. Again no perfect solutions here but it's about upgrading a position and hopefully have enough time to prepare for the future.

The truth is, who cares what the fans think. If it is about the future, being forced to keep Sanchez and pay him or cut him and Pay him, while signing some guy like Moore or Jackson or Campbell does what ? It's a wasted spot. it's not an improvement. Do people watch football outside of Jets games? Jackson is not any better than Sanchez. Thinking so is just having way too much hate for Sanchez. Sanchez sucks, but thinking Jackson or Moore is an upgrade is just delusional.

It's one thing if the Jets draft some 3rd round QB, he winds up being the best QB in pre-season, and winds up starting next year. I am all for that. it's another to pay Sanchez no matter what, and pay him a hell of a lot of money at that, and then search for some guy who isn't any better than Sanchez.

The reality is, none of these options are better than Sanchez. And even worse, Moore already proved he couldn't win a starting Job, he couldn't even win the backup job. And he came into pre-season as the starter. Ryan T wasn't impressive in preseason. It was just that Moore sucked. As much as we all love to bash Sanchez, it's just as likely that Moore looks worse in pre-season than Sanchez. Suddenly you sign Moore who can't even beat out Sanchez in pre-season. Same realities with jackson, Campbell, and all those other names.

it's one thing to bring in guys like a McNabb or even a Vick who were starters, are starters, think they are starters and can win the starting job. It's another to bring in 3rd string QBs who can't even win starting jobs on bad teams. Fans can boo all they want and Sanchez deservers all those boos, but how does having Moore or Jackson or even Flynn improve the Jets next season? How does it improve them for the future?

best case scenario is the Jets draft some young kid in the 3rd round, he beats out everybody like Wilson did, and he's the QB of the future. Pipe Dream? Maybe. But I'd rather have that as a scenario than go 6-10 with any of these other QBs and then hope firing Rex and the new regime picks the right future QB. And hoping the new DC is half as good as Rex is when it comes to defense.

[JetsFanInDenver]

The truth is, who cares what the fans think. If it is about the future, being forced to keep Sanchez and pay him or cut him and Pay him, while signing some guy like Moore or Jackson or Campbell does what ? It's a wasted spot. it's not an improvement. Do people watch football outside of Jets games? Jackson is not any better than Sanchez. Thinking so is just having way too much hate for Sanchez. Sanchez sucks, but thinking Jackson or Moore is an upgrade is just delusional.

It's one thing if the Jets draft some 3rd round QB, he winds up being the best QB in pre-season, and winds up starting next year. I am all for that. it's another to pay Sanchez no matter what, and pay him a hell of a lot of money at that, and then search for some guy who isn't any better than Sanchez.

The reality is, none of these options are better than Sanchez. And even worse, Moore already proved he couldn't win a starting Job, he couldn't even win the backup job. And he came into pre-season as the starter. Ryan T wasn't impressive in preseason. It was just that Moore sucked. As much as we all love to bash Sanchez, it's just as likely that Moore looks worse in pre-season than Sanchez. Suddenly you sign Moore who can't even beat out Sanchez in pre-season. Same realities with jackson, Campbell, and all those other names.

it's one thing to bring in guys like a McNabb or even a Vick who were starters, are starters, think they are starters and can win the starting job. It's another to bring in 3rd string QBs who can't even win starting jobs on bad teams. Fans can boo all they want and Sanchez deservers all those boos, but how does having Moore or Jackson or even Flynn improve the Jets next season? How does it improve them for the future?

best case scenario is the Jets draft some young kid in the 3rd round, he beats out everybody like Wilson did, and he's the QB of the future. Pipe Dream? Maybe. But I'd rather have that as a scenario than go 6-10 with any of these other QBs and then hope firing Rex and the new regime picks the right future QB. And hoping the new DC is half as good as Rex is when it comes to defense.

Woody ensured that he always cared about the JETS fans by instituting PSL's.

Moore is better than Sanchez. Just one man's opinion i guess. And that's why having a competition for the starting QB in training camp is a must. If Sanchez suddenly improves he should start by all means, other than that he should kept on the sidelines.

[Jets2013]

Favre comes out of retirement and leads the Jets to a Superbowl win in 2014! Hey not for nothing but I would take Favre over Sanchez in a heartbeat lmao....of course it wouldnt happen but Jets fans can dream