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Posted 27 December 2012 - 12:12 PM

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 05:13 PM

Throwing cold water on Tebow-to-Jacksonville rumblings

There is a chance that the Jaguars’ starting QB in 2013 is not currently on the roster. Week One starter Blaine Gabbert, before being placed on injured reserve with a shoulder injury, was demoted by head coach Mike Mularkey, and our sources expressed significant concerns regarding Gabbert's leadership skills and passion for the game — not to mention his total ineptitude on the field — even prior to his demotion.The man whom replaced Gabbert, Chad Henne, got out of the gate like gangbusters, but his numbers have since tapered off to, well, Gabbert-like production. Yes, the offense has performed more efficiently with Henne at the controls. No, he has not done enough to instill great confidence within the organization that he can be the long-term solution under center.

Thus, when a report surfaced late last week indicating Jets disgruntled QB Tim Tebow, a hometown kid and iconic figure throughout the state of Florida, was a “virtual certainty” to land with the Jaguars in 2013, it made sense on a number of levels.Tebow is revered in Jacksonville. The club is unsettled at the QB position. Owner Shad Khan stuck his toe in the water when Tebow was on the trade market prior to the season.However, after doing a little digging, we hear that categorizing his arrival in Jacksonville after the season as imminent is a major stretch.Khan’s prior interest in Tebow is understandable, particularly from a business standpoint. He would very likely help a small-market team that has trouble filling its gargantuan stadium do just that. Yet, the Jaguars’ ticket sales have improved this season — and Khan didn’t mandate his football people, mainly embattled GM Gene Smith, to acquire him at all costs last offseason, just to put out feelers.

Smith’s likely on borrowed time in Jacksonville. We hear there is a strong chance he will be dismissed after the season, which likely means a new GM would have to sign off on Tebow, or, potentially steer clear of the job altogether if Tebow is part of the deal.Similarly, we don’t yet know the future of Mularkey. There is a chance that he could be spared after the season, if a new GM approves.As one source astutely pointed out, the author of the original report — ESPN's well-connected Chris Mortensen — shares an agent, Jimmy Sexton, with Tebow.Tebow could very well end up a Jaguar. But as the source notes, "there are only two virtual certainties in life: Death and taxes."

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 10:23 AM

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Insider : Sanchez not a pressure player

The following quotes are from NFL scouts, coaches and front-office personnel, speaking on the condition of anonymity :

• “(Jets QB) Mark Sanchez is not a pressure player. I think part of the reason he was selected was because (the Jets) felt like he had the right temperament and personality to handle all the criticism that comes in New York. Where I think they erred is in the preparation and demands of the position — USC quarterbacks have not been known as grinders, and I think the kid has had his head too much in the bright lights. … If you ask me, they need to flush it all and start fresh. None of it is working right now — the quarterback, the head coach, the GM. They need a complete culture change.”

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 10:25 AM

I think this frog should be our QB. He is green and possesses the necessary reflexes and mobility. Also, he has a slightly more accurate arm than Mark Sanchez and won't be a salary cap buster.

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He could hop over lineman as opposed to bouncing off their asses.
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Posted 03 January 2013 - 02:55 PM

Sanchez : Where It All Went Wrong

The Quarterback Always Has Needed a Strong Support System, but He Hasn't Had It With the Jets

Less than an hour after the Jets routed the Indianapolis Colts on Oct. 14, Mark Sanchez sat on a stool in front of his locker at MetLife MET +0.21% Stadium, tying his shoes, the only player left in the room.He had thrown two short touchdowns in the game, but he had attempted just 18 passes and accumulated 82 passing yards. Running back Shonn Greene had rushed for 161 yards and three touchdowns. The Jets' defense had forced four turnovers. Sanchez's greatest contribution to the 35-9 victory was that he hadn't interfered with it.

EarlierAs he dressed, Sanchez invited his father, Nick, into the room to sit with him and talk. Nick Sanchez is a fixture at his son's games and has been since Mark was in grade school. Through his four years with the Jets, Mark Sanchez estimated, his father has attended every game save three, and it is a comfort to him to have Nick and the rest of his family there."We're just a tightknit group," said Mark, whose agent is his older brother Nick Jr. "They know the kind of pressure and scrutiny I'm under at all times, and they just want to be there to love me, no matter what."The Jets' win over Indianapolis was the most impressive of their otherwise-unimpressive season—a 26-point rout of a playoff team. But the details of that game and the locker-room scene in its aftermath serve as an appropriate symbol of the franchise's recent failure to construct a championship-level team around Sanchez.


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He is a quarterback who is accustomed to and who requires a strong support system, on the field and off. And in allowing that structure to break down—in believing that Sanchez could thrive without it—the Jets made an error so grave that it will likely force them to find another starting quarterback as part of a lengthy rebuilding process.Any evaluation of Sanchez's Jets career basically boils down to one of two assertions: Either he hasn't been and won't be an elite quarterback, or he could be if the Jets provided him with better offensive teammates. Neither theory, though, explains fully how the Jets have mishandled Sanchez since they traded up to select him with the fifth overall pick in the 2009 draft. Their mistakes even predate the draft. (The Jets didn't respond to a request for comment.)In his autobiography, "Play Like You Mean It," Jets coach Rex Ryan described his awe at seeing 24 receivers volunteer to catch passes during Sanchez's pre-draft workout for the team—as if the more friends Sanchez had, the better quarterback he must be. "I can't think of anybody who doesn't like Mark Sanchez," Ryan wrote, and that sentiment holds true today.


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Sanchez is well regarded among his teammates.

They chuckle when, having just finished a weight-room workout, he bounds through the locker room wearing a John McEnroe-style headband. They admire how he handled the media crush that accompanied Tim Tebow's arrival. They like him, and that might be the problem. The Jets mistook likability for leadership."The guy in the locker room who's supposed to be…the biggest pain in the butt is the quarterback," said SNY football analyst and former defensive lineman Kris Jenkins, who was Sanchez's teammate for two years with the Jets. "He's supposed to be that guy—your Peyton Manning type, your Tom Brady type. He's out there to win. It's going to get done because he's so driven to do that."

Over his first two seasons with the Jets, when the team reached the 2009 and 2010 AFC title games, Sanchez could afford to mature, to fit in as time passed. The Jets had wisely surrounded him with smart, respected, veteran teammates: Alan Faneca, Damien Woody, Tony Richardson, Mark Brunell.Gradually, though, the team's front office shaved those players and others like them from the roster, lifting Sanchez to a place of higher prominence within the locker room. Yet he hasn't shown he can bear the burden.After the Jets' 2011 season dissolved amid a December collapse and backbiting among teammates, Sanchez said he learned not to "be afraid of that fear of conflict with other people." But this season, there were few outward indications, if any, that Sanchez had made the team his. The visual signals he often sends when something goes wrong—head low, shoulders slumped, his dad there to reassure him at the end of every bad day—don't leave the impression of a quarterback who commands respect.

Of course, Sanchez's demeanor would be irrelevant if he performed at the same level as Manning or Brady, and it is here where the Jets have let him down to a degree.Long ago, the team's player-personnel people should have recognized that Sanchez needed a specific set of conditions around him to succeed: a top-notch rushing attack, experienced receivers and play-calling that minimized the potential mistakes he might make. (Like the 49ers had done with Alex Smith.) The Jets established those conditions in Sanchez's first two seasons, but his accuracy as a passer and his ability to decode an opposing defense's strategy have improved little since his rookie year.

Ultimately, the Jets were too optimistic about how he would develop. In their best-case scenario, they would make him the heart of the offense in a way he hadn't been. They would give him a contract extension, guaranteeing him $8.25 million next season, and it wouldn't matter if Tim Tebow were around. Sanchez would rise to the challenge. Instead, here they are. The Jets are sifting through the rubble of a 6-10 season, looking for a new general manager and a new direction. Two years removed from standing on the brink of the Super Bowl, Mark Sanchez leaves that lonely image from 2012: a quarterback, waiting for someone else's support, sitting all alone.

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 03:48 PM

Take Mike Glennon from NC State. This guy is going to be a star. If the Jets take Mike Glennon they will be set for many many years. Whatever they do, do not keep Sanchez or draft Barkely. Please no more USC qbs.

big and tall, strong arm, good character, can't hit the broad side of a barn. I'll take his potential over Sanchez though.


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Posted 03 January 2013 - 03:50 PM

Oh look ^ more articles that it wasn't Sanchez's fault. More news on the media spinning webs like Satan at 11.

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 05:17 PM

Unless they find some stud in the draft, it's going to be one of those sign Matt Moore cheap, he loses out to Sanchez in practice and suddenly Sanchez is the starting QB next season because they can't afford to get rid of him.

Moore was the 3rd best QB on the Dolphins last preseason and he was favored to start. He was supposed to be the starter.
I don't see anything good coming out of signing Moore, unless you want him to be the backup and Sanchez getting another year to 'prove' himself.

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 08:27 PM

Unless they find some stud in the draft, it's going to be one of those sign Matt Moore cheap, he loses out to Sanchez in practice and suddenly Sanchez is the starting QB next season because they can't afford to get rid of him.

Moore was the 3rd best QB on the Dolphins last preseason and he was favored to start. He was supposed to be the starter.
I don't see anything good coming out of signing Moore, unless you want him to be the backup and Sanchez getting another year to 'prove' himself.


Matt Moore >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sanchez

And no, I don't think Moore is all that good. The Jets are going to hit the draft for a QB. However, they also need to have a veteran QB on the roster they can trust to be a fold-the-fort type placeholder of a starter in the interim in case the rookie isn't ready to go, and that QB simply cannot be Sanchez.
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Posted 03 January 2013 - 10:12 PM

big and tall, strong arm, good character, can't hit the broad side of a barn. I'll take his potential over Sanchez though.


Sorry the Jets only draft short weak armed QB's or models who can't hit the side of a barn from 5 feet away. Doesn't sound like it would be a good fit.

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 01:46 AM

Might as well take Barkley if he goes unpicked in the 2nd round. A hell of a gamble though, but nonetheless he'd be better than Sanchize.

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 05:05 AM

Matt Moore >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sanchez

And no, I don't think Moore is all that good. The Jets are going to hit the draft for a QB. However, they also need to have a veteran QB on the roster they can trust to be a fold-the-fort type placeholder of a starter in the interim in case the rookie isn't ready to go, and that QB simply cannot be Sanchez.


I beg to differ, we have multiple QB's ready to fold-the-fort at any time.

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 07:08 AM

I think this frog should be our QB. He is green and possesses the necessary reflexes and mobility. Also, he has a slightly more accurate arm than Mark Sanchez and won't be a salary cap buster.

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Technically he has no arm, 4 legs, which makes his arm more accurate than Sanchez, yes. Lol

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 08:08 AM

Technically he has no arm, 4 legs, which makes his arm more accurate than Sanchez, yes. Lol


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Posted 04 January 2013 - 09:34 AM

please ,..Please,...PLEASE ----> NO MORE USC QB's ! ! ! :wild:
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Posted 04 January 2013 - 02:29 PM

Matt Moore >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sanchez

And no, I don't think Moore is all that good. The Jets are going to hit the draft for a QB. However, they also need to have a veteran QB on the roster they can trust to be a fold-the-fort type placeholder of a starter in the interim in case the rookie isn't ready to go, and that QB simply cannot be Sanchez.


The theory sounds good, except Moore has proven he just isn't that good. He couldn't beat out David Garrard or Ryan Tannehill. The only reason he stuck around was because David coudn't stay healthy. And that was during an offseason and preseason where it was assumed Matt Moore was going to be the starter. That's how bad he was in practice and in preseason. He went from being the 'starter' to a guy who they were going to cut. How is bringing him in going to do anything for the Jets?

Moore isn't better than Sanchez. That's the problem. Taking all feelings out of the equation, if Rex comes back and is HC and the Jets can't find a QB of the future in the draft, do you really think Moore is going to beat out Sanchez in practice? Considering Rex, for whatever reason, loves the guy, and Sanchez is still being paid millions, I highly doubt it. People like to have these fantasies. Moore wasn't even good enough to be a back up in Miami. And this was after a season where he started and was assumed to be the starter.

This is why I don't like the move. Spending money on a guy that might wind up the backup to Sanchez anyway isn't going to do anything for the Jets.

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 02:31 PM

The theory sounds good, except Moore has proven he just isn't that good. He couldn't beat out David Garrard or Ryan Tannehill. The only reason he stuck around was because David coudn't stay healthy. And that was during an offseason and preseason where it was assumed Matt Moore was going to be the starter. That's how bad he was in practice and in preseason. He went from being the 'starter' to a guy who they were going to cut. How is bringing him in going to do anything for the Jets?

Moore isn't better than Sanchez. That's the problem. Taking all feelings out of the equation, if Rex comes back and is HC and the Jets can't find a QB of the future in the draft, do you really think Moore is going to beat out Sanchez in practice? Considering Rex, for whatever reason, loves the guy, and Sanchez is still being paid millions, I highly doubt it. People like to have these fantasies. Moore wasn't even good enough to be a back up in Miami. And this was after a season where he started and was assumed to be the starter.

This is why I don't like the move. Spending money on a guy that might wind up the backup to Sanchez anyway isn't going to do anything for the Jets. Especially if Rex stays and his defense plays better with Revis. Remember, if they beat the Titans, they finish 8-8. If they find a way to win some other game, they are 9-7 and close to the playoffs. And they were never a good team this year.

How do you rebuild for the future if a new GM comes in and Rex leads the Jets to a 9-7 record. Even if they don't make the playoffs the assumption will be the Jets were supposed to be rebuilding and Rex made them a 9-7 team. And with this defense, they can do that.
Suddenly the Jets are stuck in the same madness of never improving. Moore is not the answer. Not even close.



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Posted 04 January 2013 - 02:36 PM

The theory sounds good, except Moore has proven he just isn't that good. He couldn't beat out David Garrard or Ryan Tannehill. The only reason he stuck around was because David coudn't stay healthy. And that was during an offseason and preseason where it was assumed Matt Moore was going to be the starter. That's how bad he was in practice and in preseason. He went from being the 'starter' to a guy who they were going to cut. How is bringing him in going to do anything for the Jets?

Moore isn't better than Sanchez. That's the problem. Taking all feelings out of the equation, if Rex comes back and is HC and the Jets can't find a QB of the future in the draft, do you really think Moore is going to beat out Sanchez in practice? Considering Rex, for whatever reason, loves the guy, and Sanchez is still being paid millions, I highly doubt it. People like to have these fantasies. Moore wasn't even good enough to be a back up in Miami. And this was after a season where he started and was assumed to be the starter.

This is why I don't like the move. Spending money on a guy that might wind up the backup to Sanchez anyway isn't going to do anything for the Jets.


The point is that Sanchez simply has no possible viable reason for being on this team anymore. His mere presence is a detraction to the Jets at this point. Even if the Jets find another player who was exactly the same as Sanchez (and Moore is at least a little better, even if he's not that good himself), just the fact of it being another person that isn't Sanchez would be an immediate upgrade to the Jets. It also would avoid any potential mess with Rex's stupid ass not wanting to throw Sanchez to the bench in favor of a rookie. All the Jets need is someone to keep the seat warm in the short term that this team will have absolutely no hesitation whatsoever in tossing straight to the bench the instant they've got someone else ready to go. Sanchez cannot be that, as he is literally the worst option at QB for this team next season and yet would still likely be way too much trouble for these idiots to bench in favor of some young kid, regardless of how completely deserved it may be.
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Posted 04 January 2013 - 03:39 PM

Matt Moore >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sanchez

And no, I don't think Moore is all that good. The Jets are going to hit the draft for a QB. However, they also need to have a veteran QB on the roster they can trust to be a fold-the-fort type placeholder of a starter in the interim in case the rookie isn't ready to go, and that QB simply cannot be Sanchez.


The Jets should cut Sanchez sign/trade for both Curtis Painter, and Dan Orlovsky, let them have an open QB competition, choose who ever is WORSE, and pull a 2011 Indy Colts, call it suck for ManzWaterClown!

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 09:29 AM

The Jets should cut Sanchez sign/trade for both Curtis Painter, and Dan Orlovsky, let them have an open QB competition, choose who ever is WORSE, and pull a 2011 Indy Colts, call it suck for ManzWaterClown!

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