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Posted 12 February 2013 - 01:12 PM


Jets wrong to drag out Tebow-mania


Tebow probably doesn't have any trade value, but it doesn't hurt to find out.
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Posted 12 February 2013 - 01:39 PM

Alex Smith


-- Everyone knows about Smith’s situation this year with the 49ers. He
was playing the best football of his career before self-reporting a
concussion. Coach Jim Harbaugh passed the job to Colin Kaepernick
and never looked back
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I like how the press was complaining about the Jets players - Gates and a couple of others not coming forward about McElroy's concussion symptoms, but they have to balls to publish "self-reporting" as if that makes it less of a concussion.  If I'm not mistaken, ESPNewYork was one of the ones whining.


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Posted 12 February 2013 - 02:09 PM

Nick Foles anyone?  Word is he's available for a draft pick.


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Posted 12 February 2013 - 04:54 PM

Nick Foles anyone?  Word is he's available for a draft pick.

And what are you guys going to do with the QB's already on your roster? Sanchez has a little value, but Tebow has nuthin' IMO. The Jets have a lot of coin wrapped up at that position.


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Posted 13 February 2013 - 09:54 AM

And what are you guys going to do with the QB's already on your roster? Sanchez has a little value, but Tebow has nuthin' IMO. The Jets have a lot of coin wrapped up at that position.

~ ~ all true :frown:

mark will be on our roster for at least one more season.

we'll probably end up releasing tebow.

jax will then sign him on the cheap...to sell some tickets to their games.

 

 

 

 

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 12:20 PM

It is my belief that the starting quarterback of the 2013 Jets on opening day will be Mark Sanchez.

The team will certainly bring in competition, but the quality of said competition will be low to moderate, and Sanchez will defeat them (even if only in Rex's eyes) in Camp and preseason.

Sanchez will start. Sanchez will in all likelyhood fail. Sanchez and Rex will thus be fired at years end.

And the real next era of the New York Jets will begin in 2014.


2014 would be like the 25th era in franchise history. Great franchises have way less. Maybe they can run out the ol' "This Time It's Different" tag and bring up how no one plans to say process anymore.

Agreed with this whole post unfortunately, though up to the part where it all fails and the Jets for the millionth time relaunch into rebuild mode. That sh*t, rebuilding, is like a drug to this fanbase. You say it and everyone's ears perk up a big because it's so totally going to be different.

Sorry your post triggered nonsense since you are a potentially great character.
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Posted 13 February 2013 - 01:23 PM

 

2014 would be like the 25th era in franchise history. Great franchises have way less. Maybe they can run out the ol' "This Time It's Different" tag and bring up how no one plans to say process anymore.

Agreed with this whole post unfortunately, though up to the part where it all fails and the Jets for the millionth time relaunch into rebuild mode. That sh*t, rebuilding, is like a drug to this fanbase. You say it and everyone's ears perk up a big because it's so totally going to be different.

Sorry your post triggered nonsense since you are a potentially great character.

 


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Posted 13 February 2013 - 04:19 PM

I hate Rich Cimini.


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Posted 13 February 2013 - 04:35 PM

Nick Foles anyone?  Word is he's available for a draft pick.

 

Not completely uninterested. While he comes off as a hippie stoner, he was one of the more interesting QBs in last year's draft and has had success with the current OC. He's as good a guess as anyone out there to be Idzik's Charlie Whitehurst here. 


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Posted 14 February 2013 - 12:33 PM

~ ~  Free-agent match: QB Matt Moore

Analysis : Keep in mind the Jets will have little
wiggle room this offseason. The team is already more than $19 million
over the cap, and New York has to make enough cuts to provide money for
its draft class and a few affordable free agents. Moore is the kind of
cheap free agent who could provide the Jets some bang for their buck.
Moore was Ryan Tannehill’s backup in Miami all last season but is
looking for a chance to compete. That opportunity would be in New York
against the struggling Mark Sanchez. Jets fans want Alex Smith, but need to realize they don’t have that kind of cap room. I think a trade for Seattle's Matt Flynn would be the best option. But if nothing happens in the trade market, a cheap signing like Moore would not be a bad option.

Chances: Average

 

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 12:08 PM

Sunday notes   : A challenging QB market

 

The thing about Geno Smith, Ryan Nassib and Matt Barkley? None of them is Russell Wilson, at least if you believe Mel Kiper.We're back after a one-week hiatus, looking at the Jets and around the league:

1. QB hunters: New GM John Idzik and the Jets'
entire scouting staff will descend on Indianapolis this week for the
scouting combine, their first chance to see the top quarterbacks under
the same roof. The Jets desperately need hope at the quarterback
position, but this year is a challenge for talent evaluators because
there are no sure things. Each of the top prospects has concerns: Matt
Barkley (USC) had a disappointing senior year and hurt his shoulder.
Geno Smith (West Virginia) slumped late in the year. Mike Glennon (North
Carolina State) and Tyler Wilson (Arkansas) posted mediocre TD-INT
ratios. Ryan Nassib (Syracuse) didn't wow at the Senior Bowl.

"The wheels came off for all the quarterbacks at some point this
year," ESPN draft analyst Mel Kiper said. "I think that’s why the teams
are in predicament they are, trying to figure out this whole QB thing
and not overdraft and push a guy up when he’s not deserving."This

separates the good scouting departments from the mediocre ones. There's no Andrew Luck
here, but you can bet that starters will emerge from this draft. The
pressure is on the evaluators to dig deep and determine if there's
enough talent behind the flaws of each prospect. Sometimes there's an
explanation. For instance: Glennon is criticized for having completed
only 59 percent of his passes last season, but he was victimized by 46
drops, according to NFL.com. I expect the Jets to draft a quarterback at
some point. Will they get it right? We'll see.

2. RW 2.0?: Quarterback-needy teams, including the Jets, are looking for the next Russell Wilson.
Not happening, according to Kiper. He called Wilson a
"once-in-a-lifetime player." Indeed, how many 5-foot-10 quarterbacks
taken in the third round become instant stars? "You're not going to find
a Russell Wilson every year," Kiper said. "You're not going to find a
Russell Wilson every 20 years." That's not what Jets fans want to hear.
Idzik was part of the Seattle brain trust that drafted Wilson and made
him a rookie starter.

3. Poor supply, big demand: Two quarterbacks expected to hit the open market -- Michael Vick and Tarvaris Jackson
-- were retained by the Eagles and Bills, respectively. Bills coach
Doug Marrone said Jackson will be in an open competition against
incumbent Ryan Fitzpatrick,who was thought to be on the chopping block. Detect a trend? The pool
of available quarterbacks is so weak that teams are holding on to what
they have, which doesn't bode well for the Jets. It's great news for a
player like Matt Moore (Dolphins), an ordinary quarterback who could find himself the object of a free-agent bidding war. In this case, less is Moore.

4. Money for nothing: Interesting trend uncovered
by ESPN's John Clayton: The top seven spending teams in 2012 failed to
make the playoffs. (We're talking actual dollars, not cap dollars.) The
biggest spenders/losers were the Saints at $167 million. In case you're
wondering, the Jets finished 19th at $123.3 million in payroll. That
figure, standing alone, isn't alarming. The real eyebrow-raiser is how
they left so much unused cap space -- $3.5 million at the end of the
year. For the record, the Super Bowl-champion Ravens ($132 million)
finished 11th in payroll.

5. Super Mario: Let's pretend for a moment that the Jets acquiesce to Darrelle Revis and give him a Mario Williams-like
contract -- six years, $96 million. It couldn't be the exact same deal
because Revis still has a year left (Williams was a free agent), but
play along as we use Williams' deal as a guide. Revis' cap numbers would
be: $9.8 million, $12.4 million, $18.4 million, $19 million, $19.9
million and $16.5 million. His number would explode in 2015. Many
believe the salary cap will spike in 2015, with new TV money thrown into
the pot, but now there's talk that a spike won't occur. If the Jets re-up with Revis, they have to be prepared to incur a cap charge akin to a franchise quarterback.

6. Fountain of Youth: Rex Ryan's
new-look coaching staff has a lot less NFL coaching experience than the
previous one. The current staff (15 assistants) has a total of 87 years.
The 2012 staff (same size) began last season with 128 years. A big
chunk walked out the door when special teams coach Mike Westhoff (29
years) retired.

7. Buyer, beware: The cap-strapped Panthers may cut one of their three highly-paid running backs -- DeAngelo Williams ($8.2 million cap charge), Jonathan Stewart ($3 million) or Mike Tolbert
($2 million). Williams is the mostly likely to go, which surely would
excite Jets fans looking for some excitement in the backfield. Beware,
though: Williams turns 30 in April and was having a terrible year before
rushing for 210 yards in the season finale against the Saints, the
worst statistical defense in history. That wouldn't be a good pickup for
the Jets.

8. No Jets love: Eleven players from the AFC East
made the Pro Football Weekly top 50 free-agent list -- but no Jets. The
Dolphins led the way with six players -- LT Jake Long (3rd), RB Reggie Bush (15), CB Sean Smith (27), DT Randy Starks (28), WR Brian Hartline (41) and QB Matt Moore (46). Three Patriots made it -- CB Aquib Talib (14), WR Wes Welker (17) and OT Sebastian Vollmer (20). The Bills had two -- G Andy Levitre (18) and S Jarius Byrd (22).

9. The Commi$sh: Roger Goodell reportedly made $29.5 million in 2011. Is that the franchise-tag amount for commissioners ?

10. Green with envy: The Giants cop a haughty
attitude when it comes to the Jets, calling them second-class citizens.
But when their so-called stars gets released, they always seem to
mention how they'd be interested in playing for the Jets. Funny how that
works.

 

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 02:36 PM

AFC East offseason Stock Watch

 

The offseason is underway and the NFL combine will begin later this week.

Let’s take a look at whose stock is up and whose stock is down in the AFC East.

 

~ ~ Rising

 

2. Mark Sanchez, Jets quarterback: Perhaps no AFC East player had a tougher 2012 season than Sanchez. First, there was the Tim Tebow pressure. Then, Sanchez underperformed and regressed as a player. But things are surprisingly looking up for Sanchez. The rookie quarterback class is getting awful reviews and the veteran market for quarterbacks continues to shrink. The Jets also lack the cap room to acquire a big name like Alex Smith. The best chance New York has of adding respectable veteran competition is trading for Matt Flynn of the Seattle Seahawks. But Sanchez probably likes his chances against Flynn or any rookie in 2013 to keep his job.

 

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 11:53 AM

AFC East offseason Stock Watch
February, 26, 2013


Let's take a look at whose stock is up and whose stock is down in the AFC East.

 

~ ~ Falling

1. Quarterback market for Bills, Jets : The
already-thin quarterback market appears to be getting thinner each week.
Reports now indicate that the San Francisco 49ers’ Alex Smith,
the top quarterback available this offseason, may have a trade in place
with a mystery team. Most believe that team is Kansas City. If the
reports are accurate, who is left for the Bills and Jets? Will they
stick with Ryan Fitzpatrick or Mark Sanchez? Or would Buffalo and New York go the rookie route with Geno Smith, Mike Glennon or Ryan Nassib? Perhaps Matt Flynn
is a possibility for the Jets. However, none of these options appears
to get Buffalo or New York any closer to the Patriots in the AFC East.

 

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 12:00 PM

A big name like Alex Smith...What has this world come to?
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Posted 26 February 2013 - 12:22 PM



Ryan Fitzpatrick, Bills -- His days in Buffalo appear numbered because of a $3 million roster bonus due in March. The Bills would take a $10 million cap hit by releasing him, but it appears they want to start over at quarterback. Fitzpatrick hasn't been the same since signing a six-year, $62 million contract in 2011 (he has received $26 millon of that amount), but he has an 82.9 passer rating this season, which isn't horrible on a bad team.

Potential fit with the Jets: He's still only 30 years old, knows the AFC East and could be serviceable in the right offense. Of course, he's a Harvard man, which means he's probably smart enough to stay away from the Jets.

 

This kind of jabbing by Rich Cimini is really immature and uncalled for. The Jets have made the playoffs many times in the past 10 years. In 2009, the Jets were 1 game away from the Superbowl. In 2010, they were 1 game away again. All this with terrible QB play. They still have the same coach that took them there.

 

Yet he makes the Jets out to be like the Browns or the Bills. Give me a break.


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Posted 26 February 2013 - 12:48 PM

Cimini is right. Personally the Jets are the worst franchise in pro sports, possibly the history of pro sports. Fitzpatrick would be wise to avoid as there are no Weaponz, the D is stupid, the coaches are stupid, the HC is stupid, and the GM is no Football Man. It's an utter train wreck of a situation.
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Posted 26 February 2013 - 01:11 PM

Cimini is right. Personally the Jets are the worst franchise in pro sports, possibly the history of pro sports. Fitzpatrick would be wise to avoid as there are no Weaponz, the D is stupid, the coaches are stupid, the HC is stupid, and the GM is no Football Man. It's an utter train wreck of a situation.

 

 

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 01:14 PM

Sunday notes   : A challenging QB market

 

 In case you're wondering, the Jets finished 19th at $123.3 million in payroll. That

figure, standing alone, isn't alarming. The real eyebrow-raiser is how
they left so much unused cap space -- $3.5 million at the end of the
year. For the record, the Super Bowl-champion Ravens ($132 million)
finished 11th in payroll.
 

 

> http://espn.go.com/b...nging-qb-market

 

Did they leave that $3.5M unused or did they roll it over?  I thought they could roll that money over, but I didn't think they could wait until the end of the year to do it.  I can't imagine Tannenbaum would let that money rot on the vine, even if it just meant giving Sanchez 2013 money in 2012.


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Posted 27 February 2013 - 12:36 PM

The San Francisco 49ers have agreed to trade quarterback Alex Smith to the Kansas City Chiefs, a league source confirmed to ESPN.com's John Clayton.

 

Adnan Virk and Danny Kanell react to the report that the 49ers have traded Alex Smith to the Chiefs.


Kansas City will trade its second-round pick in the 2013 draft -- the

second selection (No. 34 overall) in the round -- as well as another
conditional mid-round pick in 2014 to acquire Smith from San Francisco, a
league source told ESPN.


As a result of the trade, the Chiefs are expected to release former starting quarterback Matt Cassel, league sources told ESPN.At this point, Smith will play under terms of his remaining contract,which calls for a guaranteed base salary of $8.5 million in 2013. Therehas been no discussions between the Chiefs and Smith's representatives about negotiating a new contract.


The trade can't be officially completed until March 12 when the 2013 league year begins.The trade agreement was first reported by Fox Sports.Smith, the 2005 No. 1 overall draft pick, lost his starting job to Colin Kaepernick while sitting out with a concussion but was professional at every turn and continued to mentor his replacement.Before his injury, Smith had completed 26 of his last 28 passes --including going 18-of-19 for 232 yards, three touchdowns and no
interceptions in a "Monday Night Football" win at Arizona on Oct. 29.He then sustained a concussion in the second quarter of the 49ers'next game, a 24-24 tie against St. Louis on Nov. 11. Smith sat out the
next game as Kaepernick dazzled in his debut as an NFL starter, beating
the Bears handily at home on "Monday Night Football." Smith didn't start
again last season.


The 28-year-old quarterback has thrown for 14,280 yards with 81 touchdowns and 63 interceptions in 80 career games.

 

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 02:54 PM

With Alex Smith going to Kansas City looks like that closes the door on Nick Foles reuniting with Andy Reid.  Maybe the Jets can send a mid round pick to the Eagles for Foles.


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Posted 27 February 2013 - 03:35 PM

With Alex Smith going to Kansas City looks like that closes the door on Nick Foles reuniting with Andy Reid.  Maybe the Jets can send a mid round pick to the Eagles for Foles.

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 03:42 PM

It's either going to be Sanchez or Flynn


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Posted 28 February 2013 - 12:11 PM

I have been told by a pretty decent source down here that the Jets are in stealth mode but are very very high on Duke's QB Sean Renfree in this draft. Not that it means anything but some current blurbs:

http://www.pros2prep...b-in-nfl-draft/

 

Bit, 5th round? (Maybe 4th if you fear losing him. I dont see him lasting to the 6th)


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Posted 28 February 2013 - 12:12 PM


Jets hot for Brady Quinn  ?
 
On ESPN's "NFL32" show, colleague Chris Mortensen mentioned
the possibility of the Jets signing free-agent QB Brady Quinn. It makes
some sense. Let's connect the dots :

Quinn and new QBs coach David Lee have a strong relationship. Lee
never formally coached Quinn, but he has tutored him in recent years.
During the 2011 lockout, Quinn attended Peyton and Eli Manning's
quarterback camp and worked under Lee, the Ole Miss offensive
coordinator at the time.

"I'm going to tell you this right now: Brady Quinn has a stronger
arm than both the Manning brothers," Lee told the Denver Post in 2011.
"No question. I worked them all out."

Quinn, a former first-round pick, has told friends he believes Lee
is the best teacher he's ever been around. Word has it that Lee, during
his job interview last year with the Jets, spoke highly of Quinn. Lee
went to the Bills, but his recommendation may have stuck. When the Jets
were looking for a backup last March, they arranged a visit for Quinn.

As it turned out, Quinn never made it to Florham Park because the
Jets ended up signing Drew Stanton, who was traded a week later when
Tim Tebow arrived.Obviously, Quinn hasn't met career expectations.
He's 4-16 as a starter, with 12 touchdowns and 17 interceptions with
the Browns, Broncos and Chiefs.

The Jets have told people around the league they plan to go to camp
with five quarterbacks -- Mark Sanchez, Greg McElroy, Matt Simms and
two others. Quinn could be one of the others.
 

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 12:51 PM

The Jets never showed interest in former 49ers QB Alex Smith,

who reportedly was traded to the Chiefs, but it impacts them

because there's one less quarterback on the market.

So who's left ?

 

The pickings are slim.

 

Smith was the most accomplished quarterback available,

which isn't saying much. He would've been an upgrade over

Mark Sanchez, but enough to justify his $8.5 million salary ?

No way.

The Jets' search continues.

This isn't a good time to be in the quarterback market, as

there are no sure-fire answers in the draft and free agency.

 

Let's take an inventory :

 

TOP FREE AGENTS

Brady Quinn, Chiefs: Jets expressed interest in him last March.

Matt Moore, Dolphins: Steady game manager. A hold-the-fort player.

Jason Campbell, Bears: Hasn't played much the last two years, but he has talent.


AVAILABLE BY TRADE

Matt Flynn, Seahawks: John Idzik connection, knows West Coast offense.

Nick Foles, Eagles: New OC Marty Mornhinweg knows him well from Philly.

 

POSSIBLE CUTS

Matt Cassel, Chiefs: Ugh.

Kevin Kolb, Cards:
Another Mornhinweg protégé; could be cut before March 15 if he doesn't
re-work his contract. Pay close attention,  * *   Jets fans, this could be the
guy * *

 

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