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[Jet27]

Bring in Vick...........

[19andOhWait]

who I would like to see starting week one: Matt Flynn, Michael Vick

wouldn't mind seeing starting week one: Alex Smith, Geno Smith

would be a little pissed to see starting week one: Mike Glennon, Ryan Nassib, Matt Moore, Greg McElroy

would probably never watch a Jets game all year if starting week one: Fatass Russell, Matt Barkley

who will probably be starting week one regardless of what this board thinks because our organization stinks: Mark Sanchez


*edited to try to be more accurate

Edited by 19andOhWait, 30 January 2013 - 04:31 PM.

[LAD_Brooklyn]

Tim Tebow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[pedro55]

who I would like to see starting week one: Matt Flynn, Michael Vick

wouldn't mind seeing starting week one: Alex Smith, Geno Smith

would be a little pissed to see starting week one: Mike Glennon, Ryan Nassib, Matt Moore, Greg McElroy

would probably never watch a Jets game all year if starting week one: Fatass Russell, Matt Barkley

who will probably be starting week one regardless of what this board thinks because our organization stinks: Mark Sanchez


*edited to try to be more accurate

Honestly if it's Sanchez or any of these other also rans, might as well stick with Sanchez since he's going to be on the team anyway.
I mean since when did Matt Flynn and Seattle become known as QB gurus? We are talking about the same squad that thought Charlie Whitehurst was their future QB. So they signed Flynn to a big contract after one meaningless game. And then the guy never even played. People rip the Jets for bringing in Tebow. Tebow has had a better football career than Flynn. It's just odd to hear people suddenly think Flynn as some savior. Wilson made Seattle look smart. But he was a 3rd rounder that just turned out to be good. What will happen next season? Who knows. But Flynn will cost money, Sanchez will still be on the Jets, and who knows what Flynn will or will not do. At this point he's a career backup who had one good game.

[kelly]

Bring in Vick...........

how 'bout...

Is the Jets' Salvation on the Sideline ?

> http://online.wsj.co..._newyork_sports

[#27TheDominator]

how 'bout...

Is the Jets' Salvation on the Sideline ?

Matt Simms?

[CrazyCarl40]

how 'bout...

Is the Jets' Salvation on the Sideline ?

> http://online.wsj.co..._newyork_sports

Alex Smith - Harbaugh + Jets team with little offensive talent = terrible.

He's going to get released and look for starter money. They Jets can't afford to pay him that and pay Sanchez. Plus Alex Smith is not that good.

[#27TheDominator]

Matt Flynn, while far from a slam dunk, is probably a better/cheaper stop gap option.

[Jet27]

how 'bout...

Is the Jets' Salvation on the Sideline ?

> http://online.wsj.co..._newyork_sports

Maybe maybe not...but have a true competition.......

[#27TheDominator]

If there was a QB worthy of being picked at #9, I really don't think they'd hesitate.

If there was a QB worthy of #9 they would be trading up to make sure they didn't miss out.

This is the guy I mentioned in the Glennon thread. Seems like a worthy project that might be around later. My judgment was based strictly on what I read. Looking at him, I don't see the cannon I had hoped for. He seems to kind of shovel the ball out there. At least he is a big guy with an NFL arm who might still be around in the 3rd or later.

[kelly]

Bring in Vick...........

i can hear folks now... see , i told ya, the jets are goin' to the dogs

[SenorGato]

If there was a QB worthy of #9 they would be trading up to make sure they didn't miss out.



This is the guy I mentioned in the Glennon thread. Seems like a worthy project that might be around later. My judgment was based strictly on what I read. Looking at him, I don't see the cannon I had hoped for. He seems to kind of shovel the ball out there. At least he is a big guy with an NFL arm who might still be around in the 3rd or later.

I wasn't a fan of how he threw the ball either. Lot of throwaways. Using my completely imaginary system I would draft him no higher than the 4th. I almost want the next QB of the Jets to be from the 7th round so we could hear about how this guy put on his boots, grabbed his lunch pail, and went off to outwork everyone all day err day early. .Bigger than Lin!

Edited by SenorGato, 02 February 2013 - 01:51 AM.

[kelly]

The 2012 season came to an end Sunday night with Super Bowl XLVII, so we turn our attention to 2013 with a nine-part analysis of the Jets -- a position-by-position breakdown as we head toward the scouting combine and free agency:

Are you ready for another season of Mark Sanchez ?

QUARTERBACK

2012 depth chart: Mark Sanchez (starter), Tim Tebow, Greg McElroy.

Overview : The season was, in a word, terrible. Sanchez committed 26 turnovers, lost his job, regained it because of a McElroy concussion and finished with another poor performance. Tebow never got a chance, in part, because he clashed with coordinator Tony Sparano, who either didn't know how to use him or didn't want to use him. It truly was a three-quarterback circus, mismanaged by Rex Ryan, who nearly paid with his job.

Free agents : None.

2013 personnel preview : The position will have a different look. The plan is to find a short-term fix while developing someone for the future. Tebow wants out, and he'll get his wish. It'll be an open competition in training camp, with Sanchez battling the most competent, cost-effective veteran they can find. The options include Tarvaris Jackson, Matt Flynn, Matt Moore and, perhaps, Alex Smith, although he probably will be too rich for the Jets' blood.If new GM John Idzik picks a quarterback on the second day of the draft, it could be curtains for McElroy. Idzik's ultimate wish, of course, is to strike gold with another Russell Wilson.

Salary-cap situation : Sanchez has a $12.8 million cap charge, and they can't unload him because of an $8.25 million guarantee. Basically, they're stuck in a stale marriage, hoping new OC Marty Mornhinweg can work a miracle with the former franchise-type QB. Sanchez's cap number is so high it will prevent them from acquiring an expensive alternative -- not that there are any surefire solutions out there.

> http://espn.go.com/b...s-quarterback-2

[Churchill]

It is my belief that the starting quarterback of the 2013 Jets on opening day will be Mark Sanchez.

The team will certainly bring in competition, but the quality of said competition will be low to moderate, and Sanchez will defeat them (even if only in Rex's eyes) in Camp and preseason.

Sanchez will start. Sanchez will in all likelyhood fail. Sanchez and Rex will thus be fired at years end.

And the real next era of the New York Jets will begin in 2014.

[Strangefunk]

Matt Moore. They will bring in Moore and he will blow the doors off the Fraudchize. Then Fraudchize will cry and complain. Moore will be the stop gap till we get a good drafted player in the 2014 draft. The Jets may also draft a QB. McElroy will be gone.

[kelly]

Jets wrong to drag out Tebow-mania

Even the new regime with the New York Jets dreams about a Tim Tebow trade that probably won’t happen.

ESPN’s Adam Schefter reports Jets general manager John Idzik will hold onto Tebow until at least mid-March to see if he can get value in return for the popular backup quarterback.

But here's the harsh truth the Jets refuse to accept: Tebow has little or no trade value.

Tebow is a struggling backup quarterback who can’t throw with accuracy and comes with an immense following. That, as the Jets found out in 2012, has the potential to be a huge distraction. The AFC East blog recently explored position changes for Tebow, which is the best chance to prolong his NFL career.Why the Jets would extend Tebow-mania in New York is baffling. This experiment was a disaster from the start and it’s time to let it go. The best the Jets can probably get is a seventh-round pick. Is that worth another month or so of Tebow questions, Tebow distractions and Tebow headlines for New York during the offseason?

The smart thing for the Jets to do is release Tebow and get it over with. This was a huge mistake by former Jets general manager Mike Tannenbaum. Yet, Idzik wants to keep this problem around longer than necessary.Idzik has a solid NFL pedigree. But some of his preliminary decisions have been questionable. So far, Idzik upset his best player (Darrelle Revis) by refusing to deny trade rumors, says he’s “comfortable” with embattled quarterback Mark Sanchez, and is holding out hope to swindle another team for a Tebow trade.

The Jets have a lot of cleaning up to do this offseason, and this is not a good start.

> http://espn.go.com/b...-out-tebowmania

[kelly]

~ ~ 1. All about the quarterbacks :
Unlike the Jets, who have coached around Mark Sanchez for the better part of four years, the Ravens and 49ers made Joe Flacco and Colin Kaepernick the focal point of their respective offenses. They weren't game managers, they were game changers -- Flacco with his pocket passing, Kaepernick with his dual-threat skills. Kaepernick began the day with only nine career starts, but he certainly wasn't babied by coach Jim Harbaugh. On championship teams, the quarterback is the catalyst, not a complementary player. If the Jets don't feel that way about Sanchez, they need to find a new QB -- and they might.

rest of above article :
> http://espn.go.com/b...away-from-sb-47

[kelly]

Jets QB possibilities, minus Vick

 

Michael Vick was never seriously in the mix to come to the Jets, and now that he has signed a one-year extension with the Eagles and new coach Chip Kelly, the hopes that Vick would challenge or overtake Mark Sanchez for the Jets starting job have vanished.Still, someone will challenge Sanchez. New Jets general manager John Idzik is set on a quarterback competition with Sanchez, who underperformed in 2012 but will still be part of the Jets' future with an immovable $8.25 million guaranteed coming his way in 2013.

Here is a look at some of the quarterbacks still on the market :

Matt Flynn -- The Seahawks backup lost the starting job to Russell Wilson
last year, but that is hardly a blemish on his résumé after Wilson's
breakthrough season. Idzik, fresh out of Seattle, knows the bigger issue
is Flynn’s salary. With Wilson signed to a rookie deal, the Seahawks
may be willing to carry the $7.5 million Flynn is due. The Jets would
probably not be able to afford both Flynn and Sanchez, and Sanchez isn’t
going anywhere.

Tarvaris Jackson
-- Jackson is a free agent and the price could be right, given that the
Bills paid him just under $2 million last season. The market for
experienced quarterbacks with starting potential might be crowded this
season, however, inflating Jackson’s value.

Alex Smith
-- Everyone knows about Smith’s situation this year with the 49ers. He
was playing the best football of his career before self-reporting a
concussion. Coach Jim Harbaugh passed the job to Colin Kaepernick
and never looked back, as the team made it all the way to the Super
Bowl. Smith is clearly starter-caliber, but he is another expensive
player. Smith signed a three-year deal at $8 million per year at the
start of last season.

Matt Moore -- The Dolphins backup got bested during last year's "Hard Knocks" training camp by David Garrard and rookie Ryan Tannehill.
Now Moore is a free agent. After performing well during his two-year,
$5 million stint in Miami, Moore could be worth more than that going
forward. With a tight market and now Andrew Luck or Robert Griffin III-types in this year's draft, Moore might find he has several teams to choose from.

 

> http://espn.go.com/b...ties-minus-vick

[flgreen]

Jets QB possibilities, minus Vick

 

Michael Vick was never seriously in the mix to come to the Jets, and now that he has signed a one-year extension with the Eagles and new coach Chip Kelly, the hopes that Vick would challenge or overtake Mark Sanchez for the Jets starting job have vanished.Still, someone will challenge Sanchez. New Jets general manager John Idzik is set on a quarterback competition with Sanchez, who underperformed in 2012 but will still be part of the Jets' future with an immovable $8.25 million guaranteed coming his way in 2013.

Here is a look at some of the quarterbacks still on the market :

Matt Flynn -- The Seahawks backup lost the starting job to Russell Wilson
last year, but that is hardly a blemish on his résumé after Wilson's
breakthrough season. Idzik, fresh out of Seattle, knows the bigger issue
is Flynn’s salary. With Wilson signed to a rookie deal, the Seahawks
may be willing to carry the $7.5 million Flynn is due. The Jets would
probably not be able to afford both Flynn and Sanchez, and Sanchez isn’t
going anywhere.

Tarvaris Jackson
-- Jackson is a free agent and the price could be right, given that the
Bills paid him just under $2 million last season. The market for
experienced quarterbacks with starting potential might be crowded this
season, however, inflating Jackson’s value.

Alex Smith
-- Everyone knows about Smith’s situation this year with the 49ers. He
was playing the best football of his career before self-reporting a
concussion. Coach Jim Harbaugh passed the job to Colin Kaepernick
and never looked back, as the team made it all the way to the Super
Bowl. Smith is clearly starter-caliber, but he is another expensive
player. Smith signed a three-year deal at $8 million per year at the
start of last season.

Matt Moore -- The Dolphins backup got bested during last year's "Hard Knocks" training camp by David Garrard and rookie Ryan Tannehill.
Now Moore is a free agent. After performing well during his two-year,
$5 million stint in Miami, Moore could be worth more than that going
forward. With a tight market and now Andrew Luck or Robert Griffin III-types in this year's draft, Moore might find he has several teams to choose from.

 

> http://espn.go.com/b...ties-minus-vick

The only ones on this list I am even slightly interested in is Flynn, and Moore.

 

If Idzik likes him, he is worth the cap hit.  If he doesn’t work out he can be released in 2014 with no cap damage.  Could have a fairly high ceiling, or could be gone.

 

Moore is a true “hold the fort guy”  very little upside, but more then likely won’t embarrass himself.

 

Personally, I role the dice on Flynn, and take E J Manuel in the  3rd

[Maxman]

The only ones on this list I am even slightly interested in is Flynn, and Moore.

 

If Idzik likes him, he is worth the cap hit.  If he doesn’t work out he can be released in 2014 with no cap damage.  Could have a fairly high ceiling, or could be gone.

 

Moore is a true “hold the fort guy”  very little upside, but more then likely won’t embarrass himself.

 

Personally, I role the dice on Flynn, and take E J Manuel in the  3rd

Moore is someone I would be happy with, he wouldn't be expensive.  Stop gap kind of guy.  I hate the thought of rushing in to another long term QB solution and getting it wrong.