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[JoeC36]

Posted by Darin Gantt on December 30, 2012, 10:23 AM EST

AP

The exact course Jets owner Woody Johnson will send his franchise in the coming days isn’t known yet.
But one thing has become clear, there will be coaching changes.
ESPN’s Adam Schefter reports that offensive coordinator Tony Sparano won’t be back next year, which isn’t much of a surprise to anyone.
The Jets are 30th in the league in offense, with their alleged attempts to use Tim Tebow a fantastic flop.
But Sparano might not be the extent of the changes.
Special teams coach Mike Westhoff is retiring and defensive coordinator Mike Pettine’s contract is up, setting the stage for significant changes regardless what Johnson decides to do with head coach Rex Ryan or general manager Mike Tannenbaum.

http://profootballta...ne-in-new-york/

[faba]

Sparano I gave a chance to show something- he showed NADA!

[Ken Shroy]

Sparano is gone?
NO WAY!

[gangreenman]

Posted by Darin Gantt on December 30, 2012, 10:23 AM EST

AP

The exact course Jets owner Woody Johnson will send his franchise in the coming days isn’t known yet.
But one thing has become clear, there will be coaching changes.
ESPN’s Adam Schefter reports that offensive coordinator Tony Sparano won’t be back next year, which isn’t much of a surprise to anyone.
The Jets are 30th in the league in offense, with their alleged attempts to use Tim Tebow a fantastic flop.
But Sparano might not be the extent of the changes.
Special teams coach Mike Westhoff is retiring and defensive coordinator Mike Pettine’s contract is up, setting the stage for significant changes regardless what Johnson decides to do with head coach Rex Ryan or general manager Mike Tannenbaum.

http://profootballta...ne-in-new-york/

Schefter seems to think that Woody is leaning towards keeping Tanny aboard, because he is not ready to part with Rex and doesn't like the idea of bringing in a new GM that doesn't have full freedom to pick his HC.

Whatever happens, should make for an interesting week.

[T0mShane]

Sweet. Now there's a spot for Chan Gailey. Boy I tellya, Chan Gailey, he can coach, I tellya.

[gangreenman]

Sweet. Now there's a spot for Chan Gailey. Boy I tellya, Chan Gailey, he can coach, I tellya.

My gut says Charlie Weiss. Actually makes total sense the more you think about it.

[dbatesman]

Fire GM and offensive coordinator. Retain head coach. It's done wonders for the Bears.

[JiF]

I remember when I thought Sparano having HC experience was a going to work the way Schotty Jr couldnt. The less is more approach, structure, discipline, smash mouth run game matched with a vertical attack, chunk yards, wildcat. lulz

Really doesnt matter though who replaces him when you dont have a QB.

[JiF]

My gut says Charlie Weiss. Actually makes total sense the more you think about it.

Is he out in Kansas? He did win a game.

Edited by JiF, 30 December 2012 - 11:46 AM.

[Larz]

Fire GM and offensive coordinator. Retain head coach. It's done wonders for the Bears.

yup

any org with a clue goes after GM first, and lets him do the rest

but hey, this is the jets, we gotta keep celebrities !!!!

Edited by Larz, 30 December 2012 - 11:48 AM.

[T0mShane]

I remember when I thought Sparano having HC experience was a going to work the way Schotty Jr couldnt. The less is more approach, structure, discipline, smash mouth run game matched with a vertical attack, chunk yards, wildcat. lulz

Really doesnt matter though who replaces him when you dont have a QB.

You also loved Sanchez. And Tannenbaum. And Rex. And Herm.

[gangreenman]

I remember when I thought Sparano having HC experience was a going to work the way Schotty Jr couldnt. The less is more approach, structure, discipline, smash mouth run game matched with a vertical attack, chunk yards, wildcat. lulz

Really doesnt matter though who replaces him when you dont have a QB.

I convinced myself of that as well... Problem is when you actually thought about it, the Dolphins offense under Sparano was historically bad. He came to the Jets, and as bad as we were under Schotty, our numbers are all significantly WORSE this year. I understand the notion that Rex wanted someone with actual experience running an NFL offense, and not another up-and-comer like Schotty Jr. The issue is that the guy he hired was a proven failure at running an NFL offense.

If not for anything else, that hire by Tanny/Rex deserves to get that regime put on the hot seat.

[T0mShane]

My gut says Charlie Weiss. Actually makes total sense the more you think about it.

If Rex gets '13 under a new GM, he starts the season with a 90% chance of getting fired at the end of next season. Only a truly desperate man will sign on with him at this point.

[gangreenman]

If Rex gets '13 under a new GM, he starts the season with a 90% chance of getting fired at the end of next season. Only a truly desperate man will sign on with him at this point.

As I said, makes total sense the more you think about it.

[JiF]

You also loved Sanchez. And Tannenbaum. And Rex. And Herm.

Never loved Sanchez. Loved Herm but not because of Football. Never loved Tanny, maybe liked. <3 Rex 4eva.

I convinced myself of that as well... Problem is when you actually thought about it, the Dolphins offense under Sparano was historically bad. He came to the Jets, and as bad as we were under Schotty, our numbers are all significantly WORSE this year. I understand the notion that Rex wanted someone with actual experience running an NFL offense, and not another up-and-comer like Schotty Jr. The issue is that the guy he hired was a proven failure at running an NFL offense.

If not for anything else, that hire by Tanny/Rex deserves to get that regime put on the hot seat.

He's never had a QB?

Yeah, when the hire first happened I was like, wtf? But started to warm up and actually like it. Shame on me.

[SenorGato]

I remember when I thought Sparano having HC experience was a going to work the way Schotty Jr couldnt. The less is more approach, structure, discipline, smash mouth run game matched with a vertical attack, chunk yards, wildcat. lulz

Really doesnt matter though who replaces him when you dont have a QB.

I thought it would work because he seemed to mesh with the ultra conservative style of football this team needed to play to win games.

OTOH, a replacement that is good at designing, planning, and calling can get over this mere bump in the player talent road. You don't need players if you have coaches.

[gangreenman]

Never loved Sanchez. Loved Herm but not because of Football. Never loved Tanny, maybe liked. <3 Rex 4eva.



He's never had a QB?

Yeah, when the hire first happened I was like, wtf? But started to warm up and actually like it. Shame on me.

That is as much on the coach as anyone else. Matt Cassel looked good for a season playing under BB. Harbaugh made Alex Smith look awesome. Sean Payton resurrected Brees's career. Not saying anyone he had was on the elite level... But when your QB's (and he had multiple) are continuously the worst in the league - regardless of what team you coach - the system and your scheme are probably a large part of the problem.

[T0mShane]

Gotta hand it to bitonti. Firing Schottenheimer did not, in fact, make the Jets a better team.

[SouthernJet]

If Rex gets '13 under a new GM, he starts the season with a 90% chance of getting fired at the end of next season. Only a truly desperate man will sign on with him at this point.

Oh crap.
Calling Cam Cameron, calling Cam Cameron

[JiF]

I thought it would work because he seemed to mesh with the ultra conservative style of football this team needed to play to win games.

OTOH, a replacement that is good at designing, planning, and calling can get over this mere bump in the player talent road. You don't need players if you have coaches.

That too and he knew our weakness game planning vs. the offense. Whatevs.

WR, RB, TE - you can get all that help in one season. Just sucks the Jets are one of the teams in the league on the never ending search for a QB.