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[CrazyCarl40]

Because ILB's don't win Super Bowls.

Okay. What does? QBs. Not one worth taking in the first round. Pass rush? Yeah maybe. Doing wonders for the Giants this season.

[Matt39]

Yeah. Why would we want a sure fire 1000% bust proof player at a position of need who can play 3 downs instead of a 33% of the plays pass rusher who can't play against the run?

He's an inside linebacker and the difference between him and someone else is negligible. He isn't Mike Singletary. These plodding ILB aren't first round picks...if he wasn't at ND no one would care.

Edited by Matt39, 30 December 2012 - 05:25 PM.

[CrazyCarl40]

He's an inside linebacker and the difference between him and someone else is negligible. He isn't Mike Singletary. These plodding ILB aren't first orotund picks...if he wasn't at ND no one would care.

So tell me the pick then. This locker room as a whole needs a makeover. This guy could change the entire team with some leadership. I'm all for what makes the team better. He does that. But I'm all ears on someone else who will be a leader, play all three downs from jump, and also fill a void that we actually have.

[Matt39]

Btw Burfict, who wasn't drafted, is beating for the Bengals. He was a better college player than Teo

[T0mShane]

Okay. What does? QBs. Not one worth taking in the first round. Pass rush? Yeah maybe. Doing wonders for the Giants this season.

QBs and pass rushers. If Te'o had 1/4 of Pat Willis' ability, this would be a conversation.

[DLJ]

Cant wait till APril bitch!

[bitonti]

Geno Smith is not worth drafting. If you hate Mark Sanchez, you'll hate this kid even more.

it wouldn't surprise me if the 1st QB taken wasn't until the end of the first... it's a terrible year for QB.

[Sperm Edwards]

I will literally strangle a kitten if they pick an ILB in the first round.

More subtle clues as to how much T0mShane hates pussy.

That being said, if they pick an ILB in the first round - in the top 10 no less - I will strangle a kitten.

Next year will be Harris and Davis. It's done. We have a dozen totally vacant holes and ILB isn't one of them. I'm all for drafting the best player available, but when that best player is an ILB it better be in the bottom half of the first round at the earliest, and the team better not have a dozen far more immediate needs.

[CrazyCarl40]

QBs and pass rushers. If Te'o had 1/4 of Pat Willis' ability, this would be a conversation.

Fine. Take a pass rusher. They make maybe 1 or 2 impact plays a game. A MLB can make way more. But I can be persuaded.

Btw Burfict, who wasn't drafted, is beating for the Bengals. He was a better college player than Teo

Better how? I don't remember seeing his name on a Heisman ballot.

[CrazyCarl40]

More subtle clues as to how much T0mShane hates pussy.

That being said, if they pick an ILB in the first round - in the top 10 no less - I will strangle a kitten.

Next year will be Harris and Davis. It's done. We have a dozen totally vacant holes and ILB isn't one of them. I'm all for drafting the best player available, but when that best player is an ILB it better be in the bottom half of the first round at the earliest, and the team better not have a dozen far more immediate needs.

I'd cut Harris is the cap would allow it. Where do you see them picking then? If they take a strict 3rd down pass rusher who can be on the field all downs I will strangle a kitten, even though I am severely allergic.

[CrazyCarl40]

Of course, if they don't bring back Rex, the whole philosophy could change and who even knows then.

[JFtoLong]

Geno Smith is not even worth a first round pick, let alone a top 10 pick.

There are no viable QB options at this spot, any would be a HUGE reach.

[neckdemon]

I'd cut Harris is the cap would allow it. Where do you see them picking then? If they take a strict 3rd down pass rusher who can be on the field all downs I will strangle a kitten, even though I am severely allergic.

cutting harris count an extra 500k against the cap and will be 13mil in dead money. he stays

[Sperm Edwards]

I'd cut Harris is the cap would allow it. Where do you see them picking then? If they take a strict 3rd down pass rusher who can be on the field all downs I will strangle a kitten, even though I am severely allergic.

The cap will not allow us to cut Harris until 2014 at the earliest (and he's a FA after 2014 anyway so depending on his level of play and who else we bring in and the development of Davis, it may pay to let his current deal run out. As a bonus, we may get an extra (compensatory) draft pick by letting his contract run to its end. The Harris contract was in the same league of awful as Holmes and only slightly not-worse than the one for Sanchez.

Prepare yourself for a restructuring of Harris' deal, which will guarantee him starter money for the next 2 years and make him uncuttable in 2013 or 2014.

What position or what player do we pick? I have no idea. It's December 30th. The prospects - including the top 10 - shuffle around between now and April.

But for someone who complains about the lack of playmakers on offense - and I don't disagree with you there - you sure seem eager to sign up for a non-playmaker position (notwithstanding the likes of first ballot HOFers like Ray Lewis and Brian Urlacher).

If we needed an ILB at some point (when we're again contenders) we can always find one, even if he isn't a great one, and win a superbowl. That's much harder to find at will with regards to demon pass rushers or QBs (and I'm not saying that value will present itself there at #8 or wherever we pick).

If we're going to pick a vanilla position like ILB then trade down.

[T0mShane]

To clarify, I very much enjoy pussy.

[Sperm Edwards]

To clarify, I very much enjoy pussy.

link?

[CrazyCarl40]

The cap will not allow us to cut Harris until 2014 at the earliest (and he's a FA after 2014 anyway so depending on his level of play and who else we bring in and the development of Davis, it may pay to let his current deal run out. As a bonus, we may get an extra (compensatory) draft pick by letting his contract run to its end. The Harris contract was in the same league of awful as Holmes and only slightly not-worse than the one for Sanchez.

Prepare yourself for a restructuring of Harris' deal, which will guarantee him starter money for the next 2 years and make him uncuttable in 2013 or 2014.

All this tells me is that Tanny should not be allowed within 100 ft of the salary cap. Fire him completely.

[JFtoLong]

All this tells me is that Tanny should not be allowed within 100 ft of the salary cap. Fire him completely.

As long as he takes Buddy Jr with him.

You can't tell me this was done without Rex pushing for this. Rex was singing Harris' praises for two years before this contract was signed.

[Il Mostro]

Can almost guarantee new GM will trade down and accumulate picks,

And, if they decide not to be held hostage by Revis again there is trade potential and more high draft picks. The team needs help everywhere, including the salary cap.

[CrazyCarl40]

And, if they decide not to be held hostage by Revis again there is trade potential and more high draft picks. The team needs help everywhere, including the salary cap.

This really isn't the draft to be getting extra high draft picks.