neckdemon Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 does that still work for helping spread the cap hit over 2 years? i don't know the specifics of this to know if it is still a viable option? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Something like $8.5M this year, and another $4.5M next year in cap charges if he's a June 1 cut this year. Or just about exactly what it would cost to keep him for 2013 and cut him at the end of next season. So it's doable if they're absolutely hell bent on getting him off the roster but they can't find a trade partner willing to take on any of his salary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Vader Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 f the cap. cut him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted January 3, 2013 Author Share Posted January 3, 2013 Something like $8.5M this year, and another $4.5M next year in cap charges if he's a June 1 cut this year. Or just about exactly what it would cost to keep him for 2013 and cut him at the end of next season. So it's doable if they're absolutely hell bent on getting him off the roster but they can't find a trade partner willing to take on any of his salary. thnx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cr726 Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Obsessed, holy sh!t, Sanchez isn't the sole reason the Jets sucked this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted January 3, 2013 Author Share Posted January 3, 2013 Obsessed, holy sh!t, Sanchez isn't the sole reason the Jets sucked this year. but yeah he pretty much was. sure there was some other smaller amounts of blame to go around. but when you lose a fumble every game and throw a pick 6 every other game along with 2 other picks, and are the reason a new phrase that is synonymous with complete failure of assclown proportions is introduced to the game then yeah you are single-handedly losing games for your team. drafting sanchez was one giant BUTTFUMBLE!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aec4 Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 The Jets need to decide what they want to do. They may need to sacrifice 2013, and just purge the dead weight, and be players in 2014. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason423 Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 If the Jets designate him a June 1 cut they will take a cap charge of $12.353 million in 2013 and $4.8 million in 2014. The bottom line is that we are probably stuck with him next year. Because of our cap situation I think its best to at this point to rework his deal to defer a good chunk to 2014 when its more reasonable to take the cap charges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cr726 Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 but yeah he pretty much was. sure there was some other smaller amounts of blame to go around. but when you lose a fumble every game and throw a pick 6 every other game along with 2 other picks, and are the reason a new phrase that is synonymous with complete failure of assclown proportions is introduced to the game then yeah you are single-handedly losing games for your team. drafting sanchez was one giant BUTTFUMBLE!! The receivers sucked, the running game was sporadic and you want to blame 1 guy? McElroy got sacked 11 times, fumbled and threw a pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted January 3, 2013 Author Share Posted January 3, 2013 The receivers sucked, the running game was sporadic and you want to blame 1 guy? McElroy got sacked 11 times, fumbled and threw a pick. fact: mcelroy sucks too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 There's no way they play him. You cannot keep him on the roster, even if he does not suit up. Useless as t!ts on a boar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoping4ASuperBowl Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 The receivers sucked, the running game was sporadic and you want to blame 1 guy? McElroy got sacked 11 times, fumbled and threw a pick. Kerley wasn't all that bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cr726 Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 fact: mcelroy sucks too Fact: the o-line played like sh!t Fact: receivers sucked Fact: running backs were avg Fact: OC sucked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cr726 Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Kerley wasn't all that bad. Agreed he's a good #3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted January 3, 2013 Author Share Posted January 3, 2013 Fact: the o-line played like sh!t Fact: receivers sucked Fact: running backs were avg Fact: OC sucked if this were the first year sanchez sucked.....i might say ok fair point. but it's been 4 years and the dude is getting worse and now he's just putting the team into insurmountable situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cr726 Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 if this were the first year sanchez sucked.....i might say ok fair point. but it's been 4 years and the dude is getting worse and now he's just putting the team into insurmountable situations. Poor coaching and surrounding him with mediocre wr's and he should get better? He has lost all confidence and that matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted January 3, 2013 Author Share Posted January 3, 2013 Poor coaching and surrounding him with mediocre wr's and he should get better? He has lost all confidence and that matters. so you are in the camp that hasn't given up on him and thinks he needs another shot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cr726 Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 so you are in the camp that hasn't given up on him and thinks he needs another shot? I'm trying to be rational. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoping4ASuperBowl Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Agreed he's a good #3 And he was the only receiver to step up this year. I would argue he could be a decent #2 but it depends who's playing opposite of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cr726 Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 And he was the only receiver to step up this year. I would argue he could be a decent #2 but it depends who's playing opposite of him. I agree with you, he stepped up, but did fumble a few as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted January 3, 2013 Author Share Posted January 3, 2013 I'm trying to be rational. ok. but, imo, if he were a good qb surrounded by completely inept talent that would be apparent. but as it is you can watch what he does and it's apparent he's not. locks onto receivers, makes horrible decisions with the ball, is inaccurate, has terrible pocket presence, very narrow field vision, can not hold onto the football and just generally is not very good at playing professional level quarterback in the nfl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cr726 Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 ok. but, imo, if he were a good qb surrounded by completely inept talent that would be apparent. but as it is you can watch what he does and it's apparent he's not. locks onto receivers, makes horrible decisions with the ball, is inaccurate, has terrible pocket presence, very narrow field vision, can not hold onto the football and just generally is not very good at playing professional level quarterback in the nfl. So you've been ripping him since he started? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted January 3, 2013 Author Share Posted January 3, 2013 So you've been ripping him since he started? no i kept wanting to give him a chance to prove he would become the player we wanted him to be. he isn't and never will be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoping4ASuperBowl Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 I agree with you, he stepped up, but did fumble a few as well True. But I'll take his few fumbles over all the turnovers Sanchez committed all year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro55 Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 The Jets were awful this season. The offense wasn't good last year either. But good QBs make things work. They might not always win, might suck at times, but they show signs of greatness. Aaron Rodgers was sacked like 50 times this year, and while he didn't have a year like last year when they went 15-1, he still had like 39 TDs and 8 interceptions. And they really don't have a running game. Their defense still stinks. Sometimes a great QB makes the entire team better. They don't always win the super bowl, but they sure as hell keep the team a contender year in and year out. The sad reality is Rodgers has 5 years experience as an NFL starter. Sanchez has 4 years as a starter. True, Rodgers spent the first 3 years backing up Favre, but would Sanchez be any different if this were his first year as a starter? Not with this coaching staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 I'm trying to be rational. Try harder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 I'm trying to be rational. No, you're trying to make sense of the fact that Sanchez was the biggest only reason this team didn't win a title in '09 or '10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cr726 Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 No, you're trying to make sense of the fact that Sanchez was the biggest only reason this team didn't win a title in '09 or '10. Schotty did a great job in St. Louis this year and Sporano was a joke. Coaching matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Schotty did a great job in St. Louis this year and Sporano was a joke. Coaching matters. Sure, they both sucked ass, but there's only so much even the greatest of coaching could really do for a guy. I mean for crying out loud, after 4 years starting, Sanchez still is one of the league's most inaccurate QBs. It's not even just the high volume of incompletions, but even on completed passes, he still hasn't even learned how to properly lead a WR or hit them in stride. If a guy seriously can't handle the most basic tasks necessary to be a QB, all the excuses in the world don't change a damn thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JollyGreen Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 What if Sanchez is acutally the best player on the O and the rest of the O is just so bad they make him look bad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted January 3, 2013 Author Share Posted January 3, 2013 What if Sanchez is acutally the best player on the O and the rest of the O is just so bad they make him look bad? what if i'm really jesus christ and unbeknowest to me i'm just waiting for an angel to come down and tell me my real life's mission? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 What if Sanchez is acutally the best player on the O and the rest of the O is just so bad they make him look bad? Wow...lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cr726 Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Sure, they both sucked ass, but there's only so much even the greatest of coaching could really do for a guy. I mean for crying out loud, after 4 years starting, Sanchez still is one of the league's most inaccurate QBs. It's not even just the high volume of incompletions, but even on completed passes, he still hasn't even learned how to properly lead a WR or hit them in stride. If a guy seriously can't handle the most basic tasks necessary to be a QB, all the excuses in the world don't change a damn thing. An elite QB would suffer in this offense, lack of running game, predictable play calling and zero playmakers. Theses are the main reasons Sanchez has gotten worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Fact: the o-line played like sh!t Fact: receivers sucked Fact: running backs were avg Fact: OC sucked Hard to run the ball and block when nobody fears the pass. Hard to catch a ball 4 yards over your head and behind you. Hard to block for a guy who just ran into your ass. Hard to be an OC when your QB can;t pass, can;t hold onto the ball and quits on you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 An elite QB would suffer in this offense, lack of running game, predictable play calling and zero playmakers. Theses are the main reasons Sanchez has gotten worse. True. But would still play better than Sanchez when he had the chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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